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#21 Posted on
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard

      Originally posted by Pool-Boy
      "The Rain Forest is the Lungs of the world" (when any dilhole knows that the Rain Forest is a net consumser of oxygen, and the so called "lungs of the Earth" is actually our oceans)


    Trees take in carbon dioxide and release oxygen, but then again, you've never been one to let facts get in the way of your point.

    Oh, and the SUV ads were actually made in direct opposition to those stupid anti-marijuana ads. Those were paid for by, wait for it, the US government. Again, pesky facts.

    I know, I know, everything a liberal says is automatically wrong and stupid when you're as open to new ideas as you are.

    (edited by OlFuzzyBastard on 25.2.03 1844)



Dead trees take in Oxygen and release carbon dioxide. The amount of undergrowth and fallen trees (that dies of natural causes over the past thousands of years) that make up the rain forest (an eco-system is more than TREES you know) consume more oxygen than the trees produce, making the rain forest a net-oxygen consumer.

Those damned pesky facts.

Not to rain on your "nya nya parade," OFB, but you might read where I said I was not sure of the source before you start jumping on my head for "being wrong." Paying attention is a GOOD thing.

Bush's daughter SHOULD have gone to jail. But her actions have no bearing on whether or not our President is "clean and sober," and whether he has remained that way for the past decade. I am sorry, I do not believe that being a recovered addict effects your qualifications as President. I did not think Clinton's pot-use disqualified him (I disliked him for other reasons), and I do not think Bush's party days disqualify him. Hell, using that reasoning, anyone who has ever been to a college party could NOT be president. Character is measured by what you ARE, not what you WERE ten years ago...

No, I do not think people should vote if they can't understand the electoral process, or even what the hell they are voting for. You should have to prove a level of understanding (I am all for Civil Service exams for the right to vote) before you decide the fate of the country. A great deal of people either are too dumb, or too lazy to put in the time and effort to really weigh the facts and understand the possible implications of what their vote could mean. Hell yeah that is judgemental, but it is also true.

"And yeah, I do think that a recovered alcoholic, possible former drug user, semi-literate and bloodthirsty guy in general is not the person to be leading the free world."

If that comment is not hateful, I do not know what is! Take "semi-literate and bloodthirsty." The latter is an out and out lie, the former is an out and out slander. I believe, for example, that war in Iraq is completely necessary. This does not make me bloodthirsty. See oldschool, your beliefs have zero credibility with me. Not because you are a "leftist," and not because you are "English," but because you find it impossible to oppose anything based upon real facts. You demonstrate your hatefulness in the way you attack a leader who has an opposing viewpoint. You demonstrate your intolorance by refusing to even accept the possibility that you MIGHT be wrong. Instead of supporting your case logically, you resort to the above mudslinging ("semi-literate and bloodthirsty"????). You were the one who left the realm of "debate," and crossed into illogical, unopenminded, biased, partisain attacks. I thought my comments would make you feel more comfortable if anything.


(edited by Pool-Boy on 25.2.03 1708)


Not that restraint when posting in a "public" forum isn't a good thing...

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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by Pool-Boy
    The "drunk driver" part simply astounds me. He is hounded by something he did in his YOUTH (damn, Republicans did not harp on the whole pot thing NEARLY this bad, and pot is not even legal)


Not to be a dick, but did you just say drunk driving was legal?

(edited by ManiacalClown on 25.2.03 1911)


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No, but it is not a federal offense like possesion of Pot is. And my point was that alcohol is NOT an illegal substance. Regardless of the legalities of pot vs alcohol, my point was that neither one, Clinton's pot use or Bush's drinking, affect my judgement of their suitability for office. There are other, far more impressive measures for that. As long as the abuse was "in the past," and they are clean and sober now, who gives a fuck?





Not that restraint when posting in a "public" forum isn't a good thing...

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I tend to agree with that notion. Sorry for the confustion.



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.73
I agree with that notion too. But I think the voters should have a chance to make that decision for themselves. I wasn't upset Bush did Coke in his youth. I'm more upset about the drunk driving (which, in my book, is a hell of a lot worse than smoking weed) as that's knowingly putting other people in mortal danger, but I'm willing to overlook it from 20 years ago or whatever. I was pissed he played his little "I might have done it 15 years ago but not after, maybe, I'm not telling" game with Coke. And I was pissed he played his "I'm the target of a smear campaign" thing with the drunken driving. I was pissed he didn't come clean of his own accord like a man should. What upset me is that W didn't come out, own up to both things, and let the voters decide if they were relevant or not.

Hey, I was just as pissed at Clinton - I didn't think get a blowjob from a mouth not attatched to your wife was something to fire the guy over, but I was upset he didn't let his bosses make up their minds themselves.

With something like the Presidency, all information about character is relevant. At the very least, all information that an FBI background check for the highest security clearence in the country would uncover is relevant.

Maybe that's a solution. Have the FBI do a background on every declared candidate for president and release the results publicly.



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#26 Posted on
"If that comment is not hateful, I do not know what is! Take "semi-literate and bloodthirsty." The latter is an out and out lie, the former is an out and out slander. I believe, for example, that war in Iraq is completely necessary. This does not make me bloodthirsty. See oldschool, your beliefs have zero credibility with me. Not because you are a "leftist," and not because you are "English," but because you find it impossible to oppose anything based upon real facts. You demonstrate your hatefulness in the way you attack a leader who has an opposing viewpoint. You demonstrate your intolorance by refusing to even accept the possibility that you MIGHT be wrong. Instead of supporting your case logically, you resort to the above mudslinging ("semi-literate and bloodthirsty"????). You were the one who left the realm of "debate," and crossed into illogical, unopenminded, biased, partisain attacks. I thought my comments would make you feel more comfortable if anything."

This is the most hypocritical thing I have ever read. 90% of what you and many other Bush supporters write on here consists of attacks, insults and snide comments about the people and politicians that you don't agree with. Go back and find the "Michael Moore=Left-wing Putz" thread, and take in those wholesome appearance jibes. And calling the guy "semi-literate" is not mudslinging-by definition, the guy IS semi-literate. Calling him bloodthirsty is the same as many of you calling liberals "tree-hugging" or "pussies", which I've seen done on many occasions.

I notice how you conveniently ignore all the other points as well, and focus on the two that you tihnk you can disprove. WHo's blind to facts here? You or I?





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#27 Posted on
You guys are making my eyes bleed. Please try to avoid each other for a few days.



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