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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.68
    Originally posted by Merc
    And not a bad debut for him to make. If you like 6 innings 0 runs from your starters.

Not to mention 0 hits.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.95
Your first Waiver Deal:
The Red Sox get Lopez
Yahoo Sports (sports.yahoo.com)
"BALTIMORE (AP) -- Javy Lopez was traded from the Baltimore Orioles to Boston on Friday, a deal that gives the former All-Star another chance to play and provides the Red Sox a replacement for injured catcher Jason Varitek.

The Orioles sent Lopez and $1.3 million to the Red Sox for a player to be named. "
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

"I'll pull for the Walcott girl..." (Nuclear Winter)


Surprised this wasn't posted already. Anyway, rumors on the Internets say it's Adam Stern going to Baltimore (and maybe claimed by Tampa Bay to be dickheads), but I'd also heard it was someone not on the 40-man roster. So that rules out:

Pitchers: Abe Alvarez, Craig Breslow, Kason Gabbard, Javier Lopez the Pitcher, Edgar Martinez the Not-DH, David Pauley, Jermaine Van Buren
Positional players: Alejandro Machado, Brandon Moss, David Murphy, Adam Stern

Oh, and Andruw Jones got claimed, so who knows if he'll get moved before getting 10-y-5 rights.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.95
With the Jones thing, how can they not know who claimed him?
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
    Originally posted by Merc
    With the Jones thing, how can they not know who claimed him?


I was wondering the exact same thing. Is this a secret process? I thought it went from last place to first place or something like that - Shouldn't that be clear to anyone (read: GMs and managers) who need to understand the rules?

Is there wiggle room for the timing of the waiver claim or something? Surely it isn't first come first served.\

This is where I should look this up rather than hit submit



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.61
Well whoever it was doesn't matter now, because the time has come and passed and Andrus Jones is still a Brave. Although it's being said Andruw Jones is very pissed, especially since they didn't even tell him he was being put on waivers. I heard earlier this season that Andruw liked it so much in Atlanta that he threatened to retire if he got traded. I don't know, maybe they are trying to piss him off so much that he'll want to go somewhere else so the other team won't have to worry about him going through with his threat or something.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
In a "Deal so last-minute that it surpassed the deadline by a week or so", it appears that Livan Hernandez is a D-Back.


    WASHINGTON -- Washington Nationals ace Livan Hernandez was traded to the Arizona Diamondbacks on Monday for a pair of minor league pitchers.

    The Nationals received two 23-year-old prospects: right-hander Garrett Mock and left-hander Matt Chico. Both will report to Washington's Double-A affiliate in Harrisburg.


(edited by It's False on 7.8.06 1117)


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You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

"I'll pull for the Walcott girl..." (Nuclear Winter)


As far as waivers go, MLB knows, but they just don't bother announcing it. At least not unless something comes of it, such as the Livan Hernandez deal (he was claimed by Arizona). But the Javy Lopez deal could prove the irritating bits of the waiver trade: Lopez cleared, but ESPN reported that Adam Stern's (sports.espn.go.com) the PtBNL. And there was a chance Tampa Bay could put in a claim on him, as he's on Boston's 40-man. If they did, then Baltimore simply has to wait until after the season to get Stern.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by It's False
    In a "Deal so last-minute that it surpassed the deadline by a week or so", it appears that Livan Hernandez is a D-Back.


I liked this deal. It's not like the Nats were going anywhere at all, Livan was about the only tradeable piece left not named Alfonso Soriano (and no shot he's getting through waivers), and he had already been claimed by the D-Backs. Both guys the Nats got are at worst decent prospects - not the cream of the D-Backs' system, but now they're at the top of the Nats' pitching chain, realistically speaking. The farm system of the Nationals is largely a misnomer, but Bowden is surprisingly making an effort to at least make it look like it has depth.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.23
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
      Originally posted by Merc
      With the Jones thing, how can they not know who claimed him?


    I was wondering the exact same thing. Is this a secret process? I thought it went from last place to first place or something like that - Shouldn't that be clear to anyone (read: GMs and managers) who need to understand the rules?

    Is there wiggle room for the timing of the waiver claim or something? Surely it isn't first come first served.\

    This is where I should look this up rather than hit submit


When a player is placed on waivers, priority on the claim goes from worst record in the same league to best record in the same league, and then from worst record in the other league to best record in the other league. So when Jones was placed on waivers, first priority was the Pirates and last priority was the Tigers.

A player is on waivers for a certain number of days, after which the claim is granted to the team with the highest priority (if multiple teams make a claim). The Braves would then have to give him to that team or work out a trade within a certain number of days, otherwise they must revoke the waivers and Jones becomes untradable for the rest of the season. If he is put on waivers again, they become "irrevocable waivers" and if he is claimed, he is awarded to the claiming team.

Obviously this information is all known to the relevant people inside baseball that are running teams, but for whatever reason it isn't released to the public as a matter of practice. They all know who was awarded a claim on Jones, but we don't unless someone leaks that info.

Anyway, I don't know why this is such a big deal. I'm pretty sure that most teams put lots of their players on waivers hoping they'll clear so that they keep all of their trade options open for another month. Usually good players are claimed and pulled off of waivers in short order. This is probably a story only because of the supposed trade talks between Boston and Atlanta about Jones that happened before the deadline.

(And that was everything you ever wanted to know about the waiver process in baseball ;)



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.95
    Originally posted by BigSteve
    Obviously this information is all known to the relevant people inside baseball that are running teams, but for whatever reason it isn't released to the public as a matter of practice. They all know who was awarded a claim on Jones, but we don't unless someone leaks that info.


It stands to reason that MLB knows, but it boggles my mind that something like this can be kept secret when very little else in baseball ever is.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42
    Originally posted by Merc
      Originally posted by BigSteve
      Obviously this information is all known to the relevant people inside baseball that are running teams, but for whatever reason it isn't released to the public as a matter of practice. They all know who was awarded a claim on Jones, but we don't unless someone leaks that info.


    It stands to reason that MLB knows, but it boggles my mind that something like this can be kept secret when very little else in baseball ever is.






The waiver wire can be kept secret because there is a $250k fine for leaking the information. Info still trickles out by the middle of August, but no one is going to put their name on it.
As for Andruw Jones going on waivers: Almost everyone in baseball gets put on waivers. And, with him less than a week from 10/5, there is nothing to lose. Maybe Terry Ryan bumps his head and offers Liriano and Santana for Jones. Not going to happen, but might as well go through the process anyway when their is nothing to lose.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by Merc
      Originally posted by BigSteve
      Obviously this information is all known to the relevant people inside baseball that are running teams, but for whatever reason it isn't released to the public as a matter of practice. They all know who was awarded a claim on Jones, but we don't unless someone leaks that info.


    It stands to reason that MLB knows, but it boggles my mind that something like this can be kept secret when very little else in baseball ever is.


Well at the end of the day, does anyone really care who put waiver claims on each player of no deal comes of it?



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.95
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    Well at the end of the day, does anyone really care who put waiver claims on each player of no deal comes of it?

Not EVERY player. But, for someone like Jones I think people would care. If a fan from sees their team at least tried to get Jones, they'd probably cut them a bit more slack than if they don't see any attempt to get better.
People must care enough for there to be a huge fine for disclosing the information, right?
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.46
    Originally posted by Merc
    People must care enough for there to be a huge fine for disclosing the information, right?


You also have to remember that this waiver-system is REALLY old, and was put in place when guys didn't make that much money and there wasn't the information out there like it is now. I suppose since more than one team can make a waiver claim on a player, it would make sense in a way to keep them somewhat secretive. I can imagine a scenario where the Red Sox claim a guy and the Yankess don't, so Red Sox fans immediately start clamoring for some deal to be made for Player X, just because the Sox can get him. That wouldn't necessarily be a good thing.

Of course, I'm sure I give MLB WAY too much credit for having the foresight to have a reason other than "that's the way we've always done it."



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