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wmatistic
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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.53
    Originally posted by Kidbrooklyn
    Pujols is a piece of shit. The comments might have been made to fire up his team, but he sounded like a bitch. He called out Glavine, basically said that he throws the same stuff every time and he wasn't that good. If it wasn't that good, Albert, they why the hell do you have only 1 rbi and 1 hr the whole series, nevermind game 1?

    And then in the top of the 9th, Floyd pokes the ball to Pujols. Wainwright covers first, IS STANDING AT FIRST READY FOR THE THROW, and Pujols decides to show up Crippled Cliff Floyd by jogging over to first to get the out.

    Absolutely classless. This is not the way that one of the biggest superstars of the league should behave. You lose, you tip your hat to the other guy and try again next time. You also don't show up a boarderline cripple, no matter how much of a jackass he has been in the past. Be the bigger person.

    And I still don't understand how in the flying fuck Tim McCarver has a job. He gets people's names wrong, he's a complete homer, and he's an overall moron. Where the hell is Deion Sanders and his bucket of water when you need him?



Jesus, what the hell is wrong with you? Pujols didn't insult Glavin, he was asked about Glavin's great performance and he, being a profession baseball player, unlike you, said it wasn't that Glavin was great so much as they didn't get the breaks. They were hitting the ball, which they were, it just went right to the other guys.

And it was clear Pujols just wanted to not risk a throw and jog it in himself. If you honestly think he was having a thought in his mind that he wanted to show up the other guy then you probably shouldn't post anymore.

How is it that someone else said LaRussa was using Pujols injury as an excuse? In what way did he use it as that? Are you just making stuff up because you don't like the Cards?

Talk about a "whiny bunch".
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.47
No, i'm not making stuff up. Nobody had previously talked about Pujols having an hamstring injury but suddenly after game 4 Larussa just out of the blue tells everyone that Pujols has an injury without anyone even asking about it. I'm not surprised Pujols has an injury, he does seem to be slower, but it didn't stop him from hitting in Games 2 and 3 so it's not bad enough he can't play well on it. It was clearly an excuse for him going 0 for 4 that night instead of giving the Mets credit for getting him out. I mean seriously is it really that hard for Pujols after Game 1 or Larussa after Game 4 to say the Mets played well? Does every game that Pujols doesn't get a hit have to some excuse?

Next time find out what someone is talking about before accusing them of making stuff up.

(edited by Quezzy on 18.10.06 2121)


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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.20
and now it is on to Game 7....

Oliver Perez is the Game 7 starter - Yikes ! the Bullpen better be ready to throw 6 innings tonight.

Mets need Reyes to keep being Ricky Henderson and for David Wright to quit trying to hit his girlfriend's weight. Shawn Green is horrible and Cliff Floyd has a chance with his bum wheel to play Kirk Gibson tonight.

and to think, all the Mets had to give up for John Maine was Anna benson......

Let's Go Mets !!!!

(edited by dunkndollaz on 19.10.06 0838)


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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.53
    Originally posted by Quezzy
    No, i'm not making stuff up. Nobody had previously talked about Pujols having an hamstring injury but suddenly after game 4 Larussa just out of the blue tells everyone that Pujols has an injury without anyone even asking about it. I'm not surprised Pujols has an injury, he does seem to be slower, but it didn't stop him from hitting in Games 2 and 3 so it's not bad enough he can't play well on it. It was clearly an excuse for him going 0 for 4 that night instead of giving the Mets credit for getting him out. I mean seriously is it really that hard for Pujols after Game 1 or Larussa after Game 4 to say the Mets played well? Does every game that Pujols doesn't get a hit have to some excuse?

    Next time find out what someone is talking about before accusing them of making stuff up.

    (edited by Quezzy on 18.10.06 2121)


I know what you're talking about, and it's clear that it's all based on you guessing rather than any actual facts. Go back through this season and show me all the excuses they gave every game he didn't get a hit and you might have a point. Let's see what LaRussa actually said here:

"Mostly I mentioned it so when people watch him running I don't have to answer questions later on about him jogging," La Russa said. "You probably noticed, he's laboring when he runs."

Or how about after game one when LaRussa did praise Glavin, just as you suggest he wouldn't do.

"It pains me," Cardinals manager Tony La Russa said. "No way to suggest that he's a losing pitcher. ... Jeff was outstanding. So was Glavine. We hit too many balls in the air. I mean, it's tough to win when you do that."

And you can see he also noted, like Pujols, that they were hitting the ball just not like they wanted. But again, praise that you seem to think them incapable of. Or you could go with this comment as well:

"You get a guy who's a hot competitor. As soon as it's over, he's not happy about losing," La Russa told a pair of reporters in the tunnel of the Cardinals' dugout. "So he makes a statement. It's not a good statement. Glavine deserves credit. Now it gets blown up like he's some kind of disrespectful pro."

Reading this thread back I realize I'm kinda lumping you in with the other guy who was way more outlandish in his claims. But the point is you're all up in arms over nothing.

(edited by wmatistic on 19.10.06 1131)
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.80
    Originally posted by dunkndollaz
    and now it is on to Game 7....

    Oliver Perez is the Game 7 starter - Yikes ! the Bullpen better be ready to throw 6 innings tonight.


This has to be one of the most unusual, yet anticlimactic, postseason series in my lifetime. For God's sake, the best pitchers of the series have been John Maine and Jeff Weaver! And to top it off, the Game 7 matchup is Oliver Perez vs. Jeff Suppan. This series has been a pitching enthusiast's nightmare.

I'll go with the Mets, just based on the fact that they have a better bullpen. That, and I don't think Suppan can be magic twice (then again, I said the same thing about the aforementioned Maine and Weaver...).

Good news, though, Mets fans. Win this one and you'll more than likely have Orlando Hernandez ready for the World Series.

EDIT: Well, so much for the Mets. Perez and Suppan both allowed one run, continuing the trend of mediocre pitchers suddenly becoming God's gift to pitching. But of all the heroes, I didn't expect Yadier Molina to come through. I guess clutch hitting runs in the family.

But wow, what can you say about Carlos Beltran? He looked like a deer caught in the headlights on that last pitch, didn't he?

Congrats to the Cards. But they're absolutely toast once the World Series starts. There's no way their rotation of Carpenter (who was merely average in the NLCS), Weaver, and Suppan won't get eaten for breakfast by those Tigers hitters.

(edited by It's False on 19.10.06 2051)

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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.67
Congrats to the Cards and their fans... they were the better team over the course of 7 games. It should be an exciting World Series that will hopefully be over in 4, considering I'm still bitter at having about 8 near heart attacks during this game. Um... go Tigers.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.51
Listening to Mets fans on WFAN the past week (and the past year actually) and I thought Aaron Heilman was the greatest pitcher in baseball history who should not only be starting every game for the Mets, but closing them as well. He gives up the home run, and the $40 million dollar closer doesn't get into a Game 7 that was tied entering the 9th at home, where no save situation could ever occur from that point on.
You bunt the runners over if you are the Mets in the 9th, unless Cliff Floyd had been magically healed by Lourdes/Kirk Gibson. Play for the tie at home, especially since you haven't used your closer yet and St. Louis is deeper into their bullpen.
$119 Million for staring at strike 3 go over the plate to end a season? Hell, A-Rod doesn't even do that.
And yes, the pain on the faces of the New Yorkers after the game was beautiful. So much so that I actually was rooting for LaRussa, who can now do his traditional World Series disappearing act.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.65
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Listening to Mets fans on WFAN the past week (and the past year actually) and I thought Aaron Heilman was the greatest pitcher in baseball history who should not only be starting every game for the Mets, but closing them as well. He gives up the home run, and the $40 million dollar closer doesn't get into a Game 7 that was tied entering the 9th at home, where no save situation could ever occur from that point on.
    You bunt the runners over if you are the Mets in the 9th, unless Cliff Floyd had been magically healed by Lourdes/Kirk Gibson. Play for the tie at home, especially since you haven't used your closer yet and St. Louis is deeper into their bullpen.
    $119 Million for staring at strike 3 go over the plate to end a season? Hell, A-Rod doesn't even do that.
    And yes, the pain on the faces of the New Yorkers after the game was beautiful. So much so that I actually was rooting for LaRussa, who can now do his traditional World Series disappearing act.


Heilman shouldn't take the whole hit for this loss, the offense picked the worst night possible to not show up. Perez did everything that was asked of him, and for that matter, aside from one awful pitch, so did Heilman, and honestly, I trusted him going into tonight a lot more than I did Billy Wagner.

Floyd I had no huge problem with, but Beltran looking at strike 3 really bugged me. If you go down, at least go down swinging.

I was convinced that once Chavez robbed Rolen it was over. I am at least a little glad though, because Detroit going out and smoking the NL Champions in 4 straight will be such a good story if it happens (I don't think it will though, St. Louis will probably steal game 3 or 4 at home, and lose in 5).



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.27
    Originally posted by It's False
    Congrats to the Cards. But they're absolutely toast once the World Series starts. There's no way their rotation of Carpenter (who was merely average in the NLCS), Weaver, and Suppan won't get eaten for breakfast by those Tigers hitters.

    (edited by It's False on 19.10.06 2051)


That's funny ... I could have SWORN that's the same thing people said after the Cards disposed of the Padres and went to New York.
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.53
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by It's False
      Congrats to the Cards. But they're absolutely toast once the World Series starts. There's no way their rotation of Carpenter (who was merely average in the NLCS), Weaver, and Suppan won't get eaten for breakfast by those Tigers hitters.

      (edited by It's False on 19.10.06 2051)


    That's funny ... I could have SWORN that's the same thing people said after the Cards disposed of the Padres and went to New York.


Yeah I'm kinda with you. Don't know what to expect since everyone keeps reminding me the NL is apparently full of inferior talent, but the Cards weren't supposed to be able to hold down the Mets hitting so we'll see.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
While I may question Tony's lineup (Wilson instead of Duncan, Encarnacion batting 4th) I am ecstatic that the cards pulled it off. When Chavez made that catch I thought that was it, there is no way they won't use that momentum to bust this wide open. Give credit for Suppan for pitching his ass off last night, and the unlikely here Yadi coming through in the clutch. That being said, I dont know if Wainwright was hanging out with Isringhausen before the game, but that 9th inning was much to intense for my likes and I may need to change my diet to all vegetables if I want to avoid the inevitable heart attack if that happens again. As far as the Fox broadcast, I got kind of tired of the constant constant crowd shots, and extreme closeups of the players (especially Encarnacion who while he may be a good player, is not a handsome man). Great game and a great outcome!



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.61
    Originally posted by wmatistic
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
        Originally posted by It's False
        Congrats to the Cards. But they're absolutely toast once the World Series starts. There's no way their rotation of Carpenter (who was merely average in the NLCS), Weaver, and Suppan won't get eaten for breakfast by those Tigers hitters.

        (edited by It's False on 19.10.06 2051)


      That's funny ... I could have SWORN that's the same thing people said after the Cards disposed of the Padres and went to New York.


    Yeah I'm kinda with you. Don't know what to expect since everyone keeps reminding me the NL is apparently full of inferior talent, but the Cards weren't supposed to be able to hold down the Mets hitting so we'll see.

Can a team that was shut down by John Maine and Oliver Perez handle Verlander, Bonderman and Rogers?



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.53
    Originally posted by edoug
      Originally posted by wmatistic
        Originally posted by TheBucsFan
          Originally posted by It's False
          Congrats to the Cards. But they're absolutely toast once the World Series starts. There's no way their rotation of Carpenter (who was merely average in the NLCS), Weaver, and Suppan won't get eaten for breakfast by those Tigers hitters.

          (edited by It's False on 19.10.06 2051)


        That's funny ... I could have SWORN that's the same thing people said after the Cards disposed of the Padres and went to New York.


      Yeah I'm kinda with you. Don't know what to expect since everyone keeps reminding me the NL is apparently full of inferior talent, but the Cards weren't supposed to be able to hold down the Mets hitting so we'll see.

    Can a team that was shut down by John Maine and Oliver Perez handle Verlander, Bonderman and Rogers?


I don't know. Can a team that almost suffered the worst collapse in late season history, doesn't have much pitching, is without their closer, and has injuries to pretty much every star player make it to the World Series?
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