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COLORADO ROCKIES v. PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
Game 1: Wed. Oct. 3 @ Citizens Bank Park
Game 2: Thurs. Oct. 4 @ Citizens Bank Park
Game 3: Sat. Oct. 6 @ Coors Field
Game 4 (if necessary): Sun. Oct. 7 @ Coors Field
Game 5 (if necessary): Tues. Oct. 9 @ Citizens Bank Park

CHICAGO CUBS v. ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS
Game 1: Wed. Oct. 3 @ Chase Field
Game 2: Thurs. Oct. 4 @ Chase Field
Game 3: Sat. Oct. 6 @ Wrigley Field
Game 4 (if necessary): Sun. Oct. 7 @ Wrigley Field
Game 5 (if necessary: Tues. Oct. 9 @ Chase Field

I don't have too much to say about these series, other than the fact that the Rockies might soon surpass the Cubs as the sentimental favorites. Both teams will score A LOT and it'll come down to who can hit the ball harder. I give the edge to the Rocks, though they'll be exhausted after tonight's 13 inning grudge match. Rockies in 5.

The Cubbies have to rely on the inconsistent Carlos Zambrano, while the D-Backs will trot out Brandon Webb to shut down the Cubs offense. Both bullpens are iffy, but I'll give the edge to the D-Backs in 5.




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It really looks like the Cubs series to lose. They are a better team than they were early in the year, when they were still running Izturis out every day, putting Soriano in CF, and putting Eyre in during close situations and they got Marmol into crucial spots where he has been lights out. From June on they went 63-48 (.568) once they got their team figured out.

Arizona on the other hand really is like a less talented version of the 2005 White Sox. A few power bats, a lights-out bullpen, a speed guy or two, and just doing enough to win. It really will come down to their starters. Webb is a stud, but after that they're looking for wins out of Doug Davis and Livan Hernandez. If those guys can get them 5-6 strong innings and get the ball to the pen with a lead, the D-Backs will be in good shape. But if the Cubs can put some runs up on them, it will not be easy for the D-Backs to come back on the Cubs pen (and those words just look wrong on screen).

If I were going to be betting, I would look at the Cubs as a slight favorite. They have the better team, but its also more unstable. What Zambrano is going to show up? Will Dempster be able to avoid the big blow-up? Will they make any egregious errors? The D-Backs are pretty much a known quantity. The Cubs can show up as world-beaters or confused Little Leaguers depending on the day.

I'm saying Cubs in 5, but I think the winner of the Phils/Rox series is going to the World Series. Those teams just seem to have way too many weapons for either the Cubs or D-Backs to shut down.
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The Diamondbacks are a .500 ballclub that got incredibly lucky. Winning 90 games despite being outscored overall doesn't come from "having heart" or being "gritty" or "doing what it takes to win." It comes from pure, dumb luck. The Cubs scored more runs than the Diamondbacks this year, and they allowed fewer. Webb will take Game 1, but after that it's all Chicago. Cubs in four.

The Rockies and Phillies have both been on such incredible rolls lately that it's hard to say which one will stop. These two teams could put up a ton of runs in the bandboxes they'll play at, but I think it's going to be a dominating pitching performance by Cole Hamels that gives Philadelphia the edge. Phillies in five.





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The Phillies worry me, because, even though it was a great run at the end, they went 3-3 their last 6 games, with everything on the line. They could have made life easier for themselves and guaranteed a tie atop the NL East on Saturday, but they got shut down by the Nationals.

It seems all you have to do is toss a lefty at the Phils, and the bats go quiet. Plus, if the Rockies get to the starters early (which they did this regular season), then the bullpen, outside of Romero, Gordon, and Myers, is going to get shelled. Joe Table and Alfonseca don't make me very confident.

Still, I'm thinking Phillies in 5, because of the home field advantage, Cole Hamels, and Jimmy Rollins.

I think the Cubs are going to beat the D-Backs in 4. Diamondbacks, as stated by others, just give up too many runs, and the Cubs lineup is too dangerous.
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    Originally posted by Gugs
    The Diamondbacks are a .500 ballclub that got incredibly lucky. Winning 90 games despite being outscored overall doesn't come from "having heart" or being "gritty" or "doing what it takes to win." It comes from pure, dumb luck. The Cubs scored more runs than the Diamondbacks this year, and they allowed fewer. Webb will take Game 1, but after that it's all Chicago. Cubs in four.

    The Rockies and Phillies have both been on such incredible rolls lately that it's hard to say which one will stop. These two teams could put up a ton of runs in the bandboxes they'll play at, but I think it's going to be a dominating pitching performance by Cole Hamels that gives Philadelphia the edge. Phillies in five.


The Phillies/Rockies series could seriously be the series of the playoffs, if both teams keep up their runs. 5 games, buckets of runs, enough bullpen doubts (Jorge Julio! Antonio Alfonseca!) to keep most any lead from being safe, and two teams that have been pretty much flying through September to even GET this far.

If course, if Colorado finally emptied their tank winning 13 of 14 to just get into the position of playing a 13-inning marathon last night, then everything I wrote in the above paragraph is wrong, and Philly is going to go out and smoke them 3 straight. I really doubt that though, and this is probably the series I'm most excited to see at this point.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.62
    Originally posted by It's False
    Both bullpens are iffy


Hmmmm....

Jose Valverde: 47 saves 2.66 ERA *all star*
Brandon Lyon: 2.66 ERA in 73 games, 4 pitches
Tony Pena: 3.27 ERA in 75 games
Doug Slaten: 2.72 ERA in 61 games *lefty*
Juan Cruz: 3.10 ERA, 87/32 K/BB ratio

D-Backs in 4.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.64
Can YOU tell that Todd Helton's excited to be playing in October? I could, after he ripped the very first pitch he saw for a triple. Rocks win 4-2 to lead the series 1-0.

Although it's not the high-scoring affair I was hoping for...yet.




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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.23
    Originally posted by kwik
    5 games, buckets of runs, enough bullpen doubts (Jorge Julio! Antonio Alfonseca!)


Actually Jorge Julio was wisely left off the playoff roster. Also the Colorado Rockies bullpen has actually been awesome since they figured out who their bullpen is. Fuentes and Corpas have been lights out at the end of the game and Latroy Hawkins and Matt Herges have both been good.

There seems to still be a stigma about Rockies pitching just because it's the Rockies but the pitching is actually pretty good. They actually lost two of their starters at the beginning of August (Aaron Cook and Jason Hirsh) and had the third best ERA in August anyway and then did it again in September, a better ERA than any of the NL playoff teams and the great Padres staff too.

I would not be surprised at all if Colorado wins this series. I like their pitching and defense way better and their offense slightly better.

(edited by Quezzy on 3.10.07 1835)


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Perhaps making moves with Game 4 in mind was not a wise course of action for Lou Piniella to take.
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    Originally posted by spf
    Perhaps making moves with Game 4 in mind was not a wise course of action for Lou Piniella to take.

That seems so obvious to anyone but Lou.

I got a kick out of Greenberg (of Mike and Mike fame) harping on this this morning. He's pushing his 'hold your best starter back for Game 5 because you have to win it anyway' theory. While it might be correct, he needs to understand that if Big Z pitches in Game 5, that means Jason Marquis would have to start Game 4. Ugh.
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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      Originally posted by spf
      Perhaps making moves with Game 4 in mind was not a wise course of action for Lou Piniella to take.

    That seems so obvious to anyone but Lou.

    I got a kick out of Greenberg (of Mike and Mike fame) harping on this this morning. He's pushing his 'hold your best starter back for Game 5 because you have to win it anyway' theory. While it might be correct, he needs to understand that if Big Z pitches in Game 5, that means Jason Marquis would have to start Game 4. Ugh.

Maybe they do the WWE surprise move and have Kerry Wood start Game 4 ;)
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    Originally posted by spf
      Originally posted by Sec19Row53
        Originally posted by spf
        Perhaps making moves with Game 4 in mind was not a wise course of action for Lou Piniella to take.

      That seems so obvious to anyone but Lou.

      I got a kick out of Greenberg (of Mike and Mike fame) harping on this this morning. He's pushing his 'hold your best starter back for Game 5 because you have to win it anyway' theory. While it might be correct, he needs to understand that if Big Z pitches in Game 5, that means Jason Marquis would have to start Game 4. Ugh.

    Maybe they do the WWE surprise move and have Kerry Wood start Game 4 ;)

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.46
It was a bit of a surprise, but less so considering Z is (hoping) to come back on three days rest, which was a bit dodgy when he tried it last month. The way I see it, even if Zambrano pitched the 7th, (figuring that it still would have been 1-1) it's a coin flip between Marmol and Howry for the 8th. And then it certainly would have been Marmol over Dempster or Wood in the 9th.

One infield single for whatever with RISP was the Cubs downfall in game 1.

Oh, and before he says it *another eight times Saturday - I wish someone would please tell Dick Stockton that Lilly would pitch a potential Game 5 on a regular 4 days rest, due to the travel day between games 4 & 5.




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
    While it might be correct, he needs to understand that if Big Z pitches in Game 5, that means Jason Marquis would have to start Game 4. Ugh.


I really want the Cubs to win the Series without pitching Marquis once so that Jason can win back-to-back World Series rings with different teams without pitching a single inning when he was on the roster for at least once postseason series (NLDS last year.) That would have to be a record, right?



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    Originally posted by PeterStork
      Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      While it might be correct, he needs to understand that if Big Z pitches in Game 5, that means Jason Marquis would have to start Game 4. Ugh.


    I really want the Cubs to win the Series without pitching Marquis once so that Jason can win back-to-back World Series rings with different teams without pitching a single inning when he was on the roster for at least once postseason series (NLDS last year.) That would have to be a record, right?

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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.09
    Originally posted by spf
    Perhaps making moves with Game 4 in mind was not a wise course of action for Lou Piniella to take.


It's not quite up there Bud Black saving Peavy for a possible playoff game rather than throw him to clinch on the last day of the season. I can somewhat agree with Lou's logic since it wasn't like he was bringing in some schmuck...it's Carlos Marmol. He's been pretty lights-out this season.

I guess it's a moot point now since the Cubs are screwed. Rockies/Diamondbacks NLCS! 24 years of tradition!

(edited by Big Bad on 5.10.07 1638)
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.64
It's all over but the crying in Wrigley. The D-Backs squash the Cubbies 5-1 to send them home, in what turned out to be a one-sided series.

And speaking of one-sided series, the Rockies polished off the Phillies 2-1 to sweep their series. This wasn't anywhere near the high-scoring series I was expecting, but I also didn't expect Philly to go so quietly. And hey, remember when Philly wanted to run Pat Burrell out of town at the start of the season for his low numbers? How do you think the Philly fans feel about him letting that Kaz Matsui fly ball turn into a Kaz Matsui triple?

Jeezum Crow, it's either the D-BACKS or the F'N ROCKIES in the World Series this year? Who saw that coming? (And how microscopic will the ratings for THOSE games be? Yikes!)

(edited by It's False on 6.10.07 2212)


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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.57
At least Sweet Lou has given Zambrano that extra bit of rest he needs to be ready to take the ball in Arizona for Game 1 of Spring Training. Lou knows the Cactus League is much more important than the playoffs.
Soriano still hasn't made a post-season adjustment since '02.
Congratulations to spf for putting the whammy on the Cubbies.
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TBS executives lose the Mets the last week of the season and the Cubs and Phillies without a fight in the LDS. FOX must be thrilled that they have the ALCS instead of the NLCS this year.
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I really thought the Cubs were going to win the NL. Any whammy was unintentional. But hey, at least I didn't hang a skinned goat from the Harry Caray statue like some other genius did.
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