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Damnit.

The Yankees get Abreu and Corey Lidle from the Phillies without giving up Philip Hughes. All that stands in the way is Abreu waiving his no-trade clause.



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Seems like a salary dump and an image makeover for the Phils. Bobby's power numbers have slipped since last years HR Derby, and his BA has slipped, but he's still driving in runs, getting on base, and scoring runs. I worry about the pressure in New York, especially because it seemed like it bothered him in Philly. He's a bit aloof, if not eccentric.

Unfortunately, Bobby's time was also up in Philadelphia. I really think there was no way for him to rehab his image with many fans, even though I don't recall him doing anything wrong. There are some times when he looks like he isn't trying (though I suspect he just makes everything look easy), and, for some reason, the fans are always going to cheer for somebody like ex-catcher Sal Fasano over Bobby.

Lidle can be a good pitcher, and I think can be helpful to the Yankees. He's put it together of late, and there have been times when he's pitched great.

I know nothing of the prospect the Phils got in return, but they now have money to play with this and next season, and hopefully Gillick can start to bring in his guys. This season is basically over at this point. I'd like to maybe see the Phillies get somebody to take Burrell's contract (27 million or so for a.250 power hitter?) and give Victorino and maybe Delucci a chance.

I fear this will turn into another Scott Rolen or Schilling trade (none of those guys are still Phillies or made consistent contributions). I'll continue to get excited for the Phillies (cause I'm an idiot), but I can't see anything the team does will matter as long as the owners are who they are.
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If it was the Abreau pre-All Star Home Run Contest '05, this would be a steal for the Yankees. Instead, it is an Abreau who got his money then shut it down. If Sheffield and Matsui are healthy in September, Abreau will be riding the bench. This also means it is a foregone conclusion that Sheffield's option for next season won't be picked up, so the Yankees might actually want him out for the season, as I'm sure he'll be a happy camper. Of course, Sheffield would never do anything to diminish the integrity of the game while throwing a temper tantrum. Still, I'd rather face Abreau in a big spot than either Sheffield or Matsui.
As for Lidle: He's better than Ponson.
In terms of the Phillies: Unless they offer far more than anyone else to get Zito to go to a home run park next season (and, with Boras as his agent, he'd send Zito to pitch on the moon with gravity carrying to ball an extra 6 miles if the Luna Tics offered an extra year or an extra dollar), there is no quality pitcher to spend the money on. So, unless they are going to get in a bidding war with the Angels/Tigers/Rangers/mystery team for Soriano and Carlos Lee in the off-season, the Phillies will have a significantly reduced payroll next season.
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Wicked news! A healthy Abreu will be a boon to the Yankees this year and next. If Sheffield returns this season, he'll likely platoon as DH and be released in the off-season. As a Yankee fan, I cannot wait until he's gone. His prima-donna ways are so old. Damon isn't as productive as Sheff, but his attitude is on-mark with that of the Yankees philosophy. He's played so much of this season banged-up and hurt, but stayed in the lineup because of the team's troubles. I'd rather the Yankees stuck Damon in RF and found a young CF (Jason Lane?) to patrol the centerfield.

Lidle is a great pickup. Huge upside. Not much of a loss if he bombs.



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Damon in right? Surely you jest. You have seen him throw, haven't you?



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    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    Damon in right? Surely you jest. You have seen him throw, haven't you?


He can't play left, but has expressed an intereste this season to play in right. Nevertheless, it won't happen with Abreu on the team now. His defense is tolerable in CF, but it's also a liability when the game is on the line. Alas, at least he can DH well enough.

The Yankees simply have to make a serious effort at getting YOUNGER. A glimpse at their starting rotation is scary - in the bad way. This is not a team who can last long in the playoffs. I hope they prove me wrong and actually make it their this year, but Johnson is above-average (takes more heat than he deserves)... Mussina is a horse, but there will always be concerns related to his age... Wang is a mediocre starter and very inconsistent... Wright was a bad signing from Day One, even if he goes undefeated with a 0.50 ERA the rest of the season - I will never trust him on the mound.

Between Ponson and Lidle, it's glaring how much of a priority the starting rotation should have been the last two off-seasons. Pavano is a great asset and can't return soon enough - even if everyone else thinks he is a bust.



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    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    Damon in right? Surely you jest. You have seen him throw, haven't you?


Yankee Stadium has a short right field so that can hide his weak arm to some degree.

As for the trade, Yanks really don't give up much. Abreu will help, and will definitly be Sheff's replacement next year. Lidle I think will get lit up playing in the AL east. There were rumors of the Red Sox being interested in him the past few days, and I'm glad they didn't get him.






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    Originally posted by Roy.
    This season is basically over at this point. I'd like to maybe see the Phillies get somebody to take Burrell's contract (27 million or so for a.250 power hitter?) and give Victorino and maybe Delucci a chance.

I can see the logic in trying to dump Burrell, but if we do, the team won't have any right-handed power hitters. Unless they bring someone in to hit for power from that side of the plate, you almost have to keep Burrell.



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