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As the person who's posing the Playstion info here, you can't get this advice from a better source: Don't buy the XBox One!

That's right, don't buy the XBox One...until June 9th. Then it's alright.

Microsoft announced yesterday they'd be releasing a Kinect-free version of the XBox One on June 9th for $399, bringing it to price equality with PS4. The Kinect was originally promoted as integral to the XBox One experience, but apparently not so much six months later. This echos the early reversal on the game sharing policy, except that was the same management crew changing their mind and this decision was made by new people taking over XBox One.

If you do buy the Kinect-free device, you'll be able to change your mind this Fall when they start selling the Kinect as an accessory. Sony's camera (which is apparently impossible to find for some reason) is $60, so maybe the same here.

Microsoft also announced the apps - like Netflix and WWE - will be open to everyone instead of those with Gold membership. They'll be replacing that feature with an expanded Games for Gold, now including XBox One games.



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I guess maybe Titanfall didn't move as many systems as they hoped?

It's nice of them to offer it this way, but those who don't have Kinect will be missing out on some of the biggest improvements this system brings.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.14
...unless they add menu options.

I mean, do you really think a Kinect-less system won't be able to snap TV? Surely they will make a way to do that with a controller (or headset and Mic?)




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Talking to your television in theory is cool and futuristic. In reality, it's stupid. Having to clarify or repeat what you say, or shift where you are to help the Kinect, kinda sorta ruins the experience. I love innovation. The Power Glove was innovative at the time. Then people realized they could perform the same functions with a few button presses and less hassle. I might be in the minority and might not be in the target audience, but I buy video game consoles to play video games. Does the online run smoothly? Do the games play well? Are they good games? I don't have a cable or satellite box. My TV runs Netflix. All of my movies are digital. Adding another component (video game console) to the mix isn't a big deal. Play to your strengths and gradually add innovation. Don't force consumers to buy something with bundled innovation because you believe that it will make their lives better and/or easier. Those who want the Kinect will get one and those who don't, won't. IF they want that segment of the market, focus on giving them a reason to want one.

All that being said, this move makes me much more likely to buy an XBOXONE in the future. Might sound stupid, but I don't want to be forced to buy something that I don't really want to use.

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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    ...unless they add menu options.

    I mean, do you really think a Kinect-less system won't be able to snap TV? Surely they will make a way to do that with a controller (or headset and Mic?)


You can already do it with the controller, but I don't always want to use the controller. I have my Logitech remote for doing everything but playing games. That combined with my voice gets me to everything quickly(plus the facial recognition for Live login).
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This is great. I only renewed my Gold Account this year for WWE and HBO Go. It actually makes me more likely to keep the WWE since the XBox is the main platform I watch through.
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    Originally posted by Stefonics
    Talking to your television in theory is cool and futuristic. In reality, it's stupid. Having to clarify or repeat what you say, or shift where you are to help the Kinect, kinda sorta ruins the experience.


This was a big problem with the 360 Kinect, but I have very rarely had those issues with the XBox One. The only time I really need to repeat myself is if my tv is too loud, but 99% of the time I don't have any problems. And to be honest, I initially thought the voice commands were really gimmicky and the novelty would wear off real fast, but it turns out I use it a lot.

I switch inputs a lot because my cable box doesn't work well with the XBox. This isn't an XBox issue, the cable box has been having some problems in general and I need to swap it out, I just keep putting it off so I don't have to go and set up all the recording schedules again. So basically, the issue there is that I'm lazy. But since I switch between the cable box input and the XBox input frequently, I'll often find that at the end of the night, I'll be watching the DVR but the XBox is still on. No need to switch back to the XBox and mess with the control, I can just say "XBox, turn off. Yes." and I'm done. Works like a charm and the tiny bit of joy I get from being that much closer to living in a sci-fi movie never gets old.
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Wow, it's taken MS so long to do what Sony's had available out of the box since day one.

The only advantage to the 360 is that the Games With Gold are still free and available to use once a Gold membership expires. Unless Sony's changed that since my PS3 died last year, one can't play those games unless the Plus membership is still active. Can anyone confirm or deny?

I still don't understand why they required a Gold membership to use Youtube, IE, Netflix, and whatever...the same services that were available without a membership of any form on the PS3.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.73
    Originally posted by Oliver
    I still don't understand why they required a Gold membership to use Youtube, IE, Netflix, and whatever...the same services that were available without a membership of any form on the PS3.
Because people were willing to pay.

As far as I know, you need PS+ to keep playing your "free" PS3 games. Same on Xbox One - you need to keep your Gold membership to play your Games With Gold. Not so on the 360, where your free games are free forever. I think Saints Row The Third goes free today, and we're getting three free games next month (Dark Souls, Charlie Murder, and Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition).
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.14
I wasn't willing to pay and it was enough of an annoyance to me that you couldn't run apps without gold on the 360 that I bought the PS4 because of this.




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