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Just for the heck of it, here's a summary of a recent X-Pac/Kevin Nash shoot interview. These are the juicier nuggets, so not everything is included. (I mean, yeah, you could watch all the clips on YouTube, but this is much easier...):

On the McMahons:
Nash: "Everyone tries to demon(d)ize fuckin' Vince and demon(d)ize fuckin' Linda, it's just like, 'Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you...'"

X-Pac: "If you don't know 'em really, your opinion doesn't mean nearly as much (as ours)."

Nash says Vince and Linda are there for anyone who needs help.
X-Pac: "And they'll keep on fuckin' paying for it...most people don't get it the first time."

On ECW:
Nash: "Bret Hart has one of the greatest quotes of all-time (about ECW)...I respect Bret--he is the (real world champion)--Bret said ECW was wrestling pornography."

Mick Foley is a friend, but hurling yourself off a cage (and similar) isn't smart thinking long-term. Nash says wrestling is a work, but ECW didn't operate that way. He adds that they took the art form of making it look like you're getting hurt and corrupted it. The idea where you make it look at violent as possible, then head to the gym the next morning without an ailment doesn't exist anymore in the business.

"You can't work 300 days a year that style. You couldn't do what we had to do at 310 to 312 days a year...the next night you have to work."

X-Pac: "It's very valiant to say, 'Oh yeah, we beat the fuck out of each other; it's good for the business, but..."

Nash: "It's not good for the business."

On Talent & Getting Over:
Nash: Anytime you asked Bob Holly to step up...he was solid. Guys in our era got over because they worked to get over, and they realized how they got over. Guys get over now and have no idea how they got over. When the climate of the industry changes, they have no idea how to get over.

Back in '96-'99, Scotty 2 Hotty did a worm and it got over, same with Grandmaster Sexay.

"That era of wrestling was like the Rat Pack...as fuckin' collective group, they're getting over."

X-Pac: "We could take a shit and it would come out like 24 carat gold bullion."

On Nexus:
Nash: "I think it's a hell of a hair product and always have."

If you asked Nash to name any members of the Nexus or else have his face "shit on," he would wind up getting his face covered in poop. He would not recognize them, Sam I am, neither in a house nor with a mouse. X-Pac thinks they have a degree of distinction.

On TNA:
Nash: Hulk, Bischoff, Russo and Dixie have different visions for the business. Everyone has their hands in the pot and no one knows what it was originally. By contrast, in the old days Vince and Pat Patterson had things planned out in a big book months in advance.

However, Bischoff is the only guy in the history of wrestling to beat Vince McMahon and Hulk is the greatest pro wrestler of all-time. Hulk and Bischoff still have a finger on the pulse of pro wrestling. Nash says he watched Hulk steal two WrestleManias back-to-back.

On Sgt. Slaughter:
Nash and X-Pac love Sgt. Slaughter.

On RVD & Jeff Hardy:
Nash: Guys like MCMG, Eric Young and Beer Money do what they do because they love wrestling, because they get paid peanuts. RVD is a good performer but has never had his name on the marquee at MSG. Jeff Hardy was only a main event guy when he worked against Undertaker or HHH. Those guys are talented, but are only main event guys when they work with main event guys. Nash says his son was impressed by Hardy's theme and thus, with Hardy, to which Nash agrees, "then eight minutes later he fucking swantons his ass on somebody's head...I don't want to take your finish..." Nash says Rikishi's splash off the top rope is 1/9th of what RVD's Five Star is.

"When they brought you guys in as the saviors of the company, the needle went 'Eeeeeeeeeeeee,' nowhere. Don't get on the internet and said you're a rock star. Yeah, you're a rock star, you're some indie emo band playing in front of 400 people...and I like them both."

X-Pac: "They are money..."

Nash: "They are money--money going out of TNA's pocket." TNA thought they could go head-to-head with Vince...and it's a bad business decision.

On The Clique:
The name came from Bam Bam Bigelow and Lex Luger. They would put Clique on the lockerroom door early in the day and then leave, just for kicks. No one knows what Undertaker's BSK group stands for.

They were so into wrestling, no one understands it. All they ever talked about from the moment they left the show was wrestling and how to improve their spots and matches.

On Flair:
X-Pac says most people would say Ric is the greatest of all-time, Nash says it's HBK.

On HBK/Bret:
You always say never say never, because guys like Hawk went back after threatening Vince's family. Neither knows why Randy hasn't been back.*

X-Pac used to ride with Bret, so he knows Bret was way too sharp to not see Montreal coming from a mile away. When he caught up with Bret during a spot in Germany, he asked about the situation and Bret said he put his faith in Earl Hebner. X-Pac said the red flags would have gone up when he heard the finish and in Japan, referees will screw you over in a second; Bret alluded to the idea that he kind of saw it coming.

Nash thinks it's a work. Vince doesn't sell anything: not the federal government for three years; not the neck or pelvis injuries; not a spinal cord fusion; and not the double quad injury--he's going to sell a punch from one of his boys on film?

On Rick Rude:
Nash: "When he died, a part of me left." Nash was in a car with Rude and Dan Spivey when some fans tried to pick a fight with them. Before Nash and Spivey got out of the car, Rude had already dropped three guys. Without Rude's seal of approval, guys like Ricky Steamboat would not have had the confidence to work with Nash, which kept in WCW long enough to get noticed by Shawn Michaels.

On Sheamus:
Nash says it's poor character development/protection to have the jacked-up albino run from Nexus screaming for Cena, especially after winning the WWE Title two times. He doesn't know if was pre-conceived, an oversight, or a way to keep someone over while other guys are down. He says it's probably an oversight and writing for a segment instead of writing for the future.

*(Granted, his deals could have been made with Mattel of THQ separate from WWE, but I am of the opinion that Savage will be back either this year or next. There's just too much Randy merchandise and buzz floating around; it must mean something.)


(edited by Whattaburger on 23.1.11 1954)


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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
On TNA:
Nash: Hulk, Bischoff, Russo and Dixie have different visions for the business. Everyone has their hands in the pot and no one knows what it was originally.

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I like how Nash says that as if he never, ever manipulated booking to put himself over anywhere. The irony is stunning.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by Whattaburger
    On ECW:
    Nash: "Bret Hart has one of the greatest quotes of all-time (about ECW)...I respect Bret--he is the (real world champion)--Bret said ECW was wrestling pornography."

    Mick Foley is a friend, but hurling yourself off a cage (and similar) isn't smart thinking long-term. Nash says wrestling is a work, but ECW didn't operate that way. He adds that they took the art form of making it look like you're getting hurt and corrupted it. The idea where you make it look at violent as possible, then head to the gym the next morning without an ailment doesn't exist anymore in the business.

    "You can't work 300 days a year that style. You couldn't do what we had to do at 310 to 312 days a year...the next night you have to work."

    X-Pac: "It's very valiant to say, 'Oh yeah, we beat the fuck out of each other; it's good for the business, but..."

    Nash: "It's not good for the business."


These two are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked, but I do kind of agree with their broader point here.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.33
I think almost everything they said has a ring of truth to it. They're not stupid about the business. But at the end of the day, for all their talk about what's good for the business and what isn't, their top priority has always been what's good for them > what's good for business. That's also not unreasonable, in a business that eats people up and spits them out.

If Nash does indeed stay retired, one day, though that day will likely never come, I would be interested to see if Kevin Nash could actually book a wrestling show that doesn't involve him working on top, just to see if minus Kevin Nash wrestling on the show, he could use that big brain of his to actually put out a good product.



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#5 Posted on
    Originally posted by Whattaburger
    No one knows what Undertaker's BSK group stands for.



I had never heard of this BSK thingy before, so a quick search comes up with this:
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http://www.kgbanswers.com/what-does-the-bsk-pride-tattoo-stand-for-on-the-undertakers-stomach/4373267

B.S.K PRIDE stands for Back Stage Krew, which was a group made up of The Undertaker, Mideon, Rikishi, and one other person

or this:

http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070923042120AAmUazX

According to Percy Pringle, who was Undertaker's longtime manager as Paul Bearer, the tattoo stands for "Bone Street Krewe" which was apparently the nickname for the group Taker traveled with. People have claimed it means "Brotherhood Of Solitary Knights" or "Back Stage Krew" (which is a hip-hop reference), but Undertaker himself has never commented on it publicly.

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#6 Posted on
    Originally posted by JimBob Skeeter
    "Bone Street Krewe"




      Well now we know who's idea it was to put the extra "R" in "CORRE".





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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.30
If ECW was doing 300+ shows a year, they probably would have cut back on the spectacle. When I saw them during a rare tour of our state, the show wasn't the all-out crash you saw on PPVs. There was one big spot -- Sabu leaping against the guard rail -- and the rest of the show wasn't much more risky than what we see on WWE TV these days.

The week before the NWO was ended by Vince, Nash tore his quad doing a fairly routine wrestling move, presumably weakened because of supplements that allowed him to work 300+ days a year.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    If ECW was doing 300+ shows a year, they probably would have cut back on the spectacle. When I saw them during a rare tour of our state, the show wasn't the all-out crash you saw on PPVs. There was one big spot -- Sabu leaping against the guard rail -- and the rest of the show wasn't much more risky than what we see on WWE TV these days.

    The week before the NWO was ended by Vince, Nash tore his quad doing a fairly routine wrestling move, presumably weakened because of supplements that allowed him to work 300+ days a year.


Wrestling 300+ times a year does a LOT more damage than a few heavy bumps.
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#9 Posted on
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    If Nash does indeed stay retired, one day, though that day will likely never come, I would be interested to see if Kevin Nash could actually book a wrestling show that doesn't involve him working on top, just to see if minus Kevin Nash wrestling on the show, he could use that big brain of his to actually put out a good product.


I like this idea, but I have a sneaking suspicion Nash would still end up putting himself over and hogging screen time (ala Eric Bischoff) through the commissioner/general manager sort of role on whatever show he's booking.
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