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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.05

Sean "X-Pac" Waltman recently showed up at a Tampa house show for a post-match celebration with DX.

Here's the footage (video.tinypic.com)

That begs the question ... based on that pop he appears to be getting, is it in cards to bring him back? With HBK supposedly needing surgery, it would be a way to continue DX while he's on the shelf.
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Stolen from some website that my buddy forgot to credit when he emailed this to me:


    KANYON ALSO APPEARS AT THE TAMPA RAW LIVE EVENT
    - Chris Kanyon was present at the live WWE event in Tampa, FL., yesterday sitting in a front row seat. Kanyon had two signs with him, one which read "HHH please ask Vince why he really fired me" and the other one was "Shawn please pray for my gay soul." Kanyon admitted earlier this year that he was gay and he always thought he was fired from WWE because of his sexuality. Triple H then ripped off Kanyon's trademark quote "Who better than Kanyon" by saying "We are better than Kanyon" which received a nice pop from the crowd. Kanyon eventually got ejected out of the building. Kanyon has a commentary up on MySpace regarding his appearance yesterday at http://www.myspace.com/chriskanyon
Kinda pathetic, no?

It sounds like Kanyon really thought coming out as the first openly gay wrestler was gonna take him places, but I guess he actually shot himself in the foot instead. That is sad enough by itself, but not as sad as that little stunt.



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For those of you without MySpace....Kanyon's blog...

WHY I MADE AN APPEARANCE AT A WWE HOUSE SHOW SEPT.8, 2006, TAMPA, FL


You may have read or heard that I showed up at a WWE Raw house show Friday, 9-8-06, and created a "disturbance." Well, before people jump to conclusions and try to put their own spin on what and why I did what I did, I figure you might as well hear it from the horse's mouth.

Part of the reason dates back to the Smackdown show taped on 2-11-03, airing on UPN 2-13-03. It was my return to national TV after many months recovering from injury as well as many months helping with the WWE's training system, Ohio Valley Wrestling (OVW), in Louisville, KY. After so much time off TV, instead of any build up and fanfare for my return, the WWE had me dress up as a known homosexual (Boy George), come out of a large crate in the middle of the ring (a closet, so to speak), sing in a very effeminate voice ("sing like a fag" I was told by the agent/creative person assigned by Vince McMahon to me and this "storyline,"), and take a very physical, stiff beating from the Undertaker including 3 extremely brutal and UNSAFE chair shots to the small of the back and the top of the head.

Now, I believe this was in response to my possible plans, at the time, to come out of the closet nationally. Prior to my comeback, I had several discussions with people within the WWE about coming out, and I am sure it got back to Vince. Instead of just telling me that he would prefer it if I didn't come out, I believe he set up this angle as a message to me. I can't say that for sure, but if it wasn't a message, it was an incredible coincidence. Following this incident I was very rarely on Smackdown or Raw, and was pretty much beaten every week until I was fired. I guess everyone can draw his/her own conclusions.

Now, as recently as a few weeks ago, my goal was to return to the WWE, I guess in some ways not wanting to believe that I was really fired because I was gay. But I was curious. Several attempts to contact and talk to the WWE about a possible return went unanswered. And in trying to find out about the potential for a return, I found out from people within the WWE that my suspicions about being fired because I was gay, according to them, were correct.

One person high up on the corporate side confirmed that Vince knew that I was gay and that was at least part of the reason that I was released. This person told me that Vince has said in the past, "it is my company, and I can hire and fire whoever I want for whatever reason I want." And, although morally I do not agree with that statement, in some ways I see his point and in some ways I agree with him….if it was a private company. But the WWE is a public company, and Vince's top priority should be turning a profit for his stockholders. He should not allow any of his personal animosity or prejudices towards any groups or individuals affect decisions that may affect potential profit for his stockholders. But that is just my opinion.

I also heard from a high profile wrestler who was in both the WWE and WCW who said that he was aware of an agent who had also known that I was gay (it was not a well kept secret within the industry for many years), and that this agent would often talk of me being gay and he would refer to me in some circles as "that fu**ing faggot," and "that queer." This agent was often responsible for my matches (the agent is often the liaison between the wrestlers and Vince McMahon), and on several occasions, I know that he lied to Vince about things that I had said and did. I do believe that may have also been a factor in my being fired, but again, you can form your own opinions.

All that brings us to Friday, September 8, 2006 in Tampa, Florida. I decided to attend the show because I was frustrated with my inability to hear from Vince McMahon on whether what I had heard was true or not. If I found out from him that it was true, I would have to move on with my life. There would be no attempted lawsuits (I really don't believe in them) and I believe I would really have no hard feelings. I would just know it was my time to move on. Everything happens for a reason, and I would take this as a sign that there are other things for me to do out there. It would give me closure to a great chapter in my life.

On the other hand, if it is not true, I would like one more run. I miss wrestling in the WWE and I feel I still have something to offer. But, thus far, I have not heard from Vince. So I decided to bring 2 signs to the house show. "HHH, PLEASE ASK VINCE WHY HE REALLY FIRED ME" and since that really didn't let Vince know what I was thinking. "SHAWN PLEASE PRAY FOR MY GAY SOUL." I intentionally did not do this during the match out of respect to Shawn and HHH, since I would never want to distract from anyone's match.

So, during their INTRODUCTION, I went to ringside with the signs and HHH and Shawn both came to the rope on the side I was standing and acknowledged my presence, which was a show of class by them. Shawn nodded and gave me a thumbs up, I assume meaning he would, in fact, pray for me. HHH grabbed the mic and said something, almost inaudible, I think saying, "Who invited Kanyon?" Security ushered me out of the building, although I had paid for my ticket (the nice promoter for the WWE, Bret, did get tickets for my friends, but I bought my own ticket).

And that was that. Not a publicity ploy, as some will accuse. And it was definitely not an attempt to upset anyone or distract from the show (if I did that I am sorry). I do want to take this opportunity to personally apologize to WWE Security, Jimmy N. He is a great guy, always treated me well when I was with the WWE, and he does a great job. I am sorry if I upset him. In closing, I would like to say that what I did was just an attempt to get some answers so that I can move on with my life, get some closure or return to the national wrestling scene. The ball is in Vince's court. I really wish he would just let me know if I can still play the game again or not.
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At a time when it's still very taboo for someone who is gay to come out in the big sports like football, baseball, etc, I'm just a little surprised that he's shocked that he would have gotten fired because he was gay.

But the mentioning that Vince has to do business for stockholders, instead of his own devices, it would probably be a completely different story if it was a big draw like Hogan, Austin, HHH, HBK, or one of them where the ones coming out, but to the average fan, more often than not, don't give him a second thought.




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Take it with a grain of salt that Kanyon is gay. This reeks of PURE PUBLICITY HOUNDING. Pro wrestlers are notorious for doing/saying anything they think will stir up controversy when they're out of the spotlight and want to get back in. It's essentially like a cheap pop - something that's been done to death so much, it has little impact... as Kanyon is finding out.

Anyone who remembers from a few months back when Kanyon was posting all over the net that he "might" be gay... using that as a ploy to try and lure in some offers from WWE and TNA. The problem with Kanyon's attempts at getting attention from the big companies is that he goes about it in the worst ways. He comes off sounding very desperate, pathetic, low on self-esteem, and like a suck-up.

I don't believe for a second that Kanyon is gay, and I base my opinion solely on all the things he's said up to this point. Originally, earlier this year, he was calling it a "gimmick" and hinting that it may or may not be true. Sadly for Kanyon, NOBODY CARES! And most fans don't remember him, as he was barely on WWE TV.

For the last year, Kanyon has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that when things aren't going your way with the big companies, you NEVER resort to posting stuff online. It may have worked for Matt Hardy, but fans backed Hardy. Everyone seems to just feel sad for Kanyon, because he seems so lame.

The best and worst things he did for his career was the copycat stunt of Mick Foley's leap off the top of a cage. And just like back then, Kanyon is proving he's nothing but a wh*re for publicity and will do ANYTHING to get a sniff at work with a big company. And I wouldn't be surprised at what he might be willing to do to get a job with WWE...

He's only giving WWE and TNA less reason to trust him. He certainly doesn't seem stable enough to be employable.

(edited by chill on 10.9.06 1304)

(edited by chill on 10.9.06 1306)
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.05
Kanyon would be perfect for rehashing the latter-day Adrian Adonis's Flower Shop.

(edited by Mayhem on 10.9.06 1328)
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.57
Sylvan and Pat Patterson are pretty well known to be gay.

Orlando Jordan is some weird kind of O-sexual, but the only thing that got him fired was bringing an underage boy on the road with him and openly flaunting their relationship.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.83
What does any of this (re: Kanyon) have to do with X-Pac making a house show appearance?

If Waltman is brought in for a few weeks to sustain the storyline while Michaels has surgery, that's not necessarily a bad idea; if he's intended long term... maybe they can bring back D-Lo brown and have them revive the tag team division.

Or not.

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.63

    Originally posted by Sobriquet
    What does any of this (re: Kanyon) have to do with X-Pac making a house show appearance?
Same house show.

    Originally posted by J-Sharp
    but the only thing that got [Orlando Jordan] fired was bringing an underage boy on the road with him and openly flaunting their relationship.
I read he got fired because he brought "an unauthorized person" with him backstage, but I never heard about the "underage relationship" part. Makes sense though, just bringing someone backstage seemed like an odd thing to get fired over.



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***XPAC related content***

He was a good worker. He would be entertaining in the same role Tatantka played the last few months: get a push to become legit again, then start jobbing to put talent over.

XPac could have good matches with super crazy, spirit squad members and johnny nitro.

Can he still have ***+ matches?



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
    Originally posted by Sobriquet
    What does any of this (re: Kanyon) have to do with X-Pac making a house show appearance?



Point well-taken. Although maybe it speaks volumes about how much demand there is for an X-Pac return...

That said, Waltman had a great cage match in TNA with Raven about a year ago. I can't stand his acting and personality - which is mostly what WWE cares about and puts emphasis on. But his matches can still be good. Odds are, we'll get more character from him than wrestling in any WWE run. So that automatically makes his presence kinda stupid.

What's this about Sylvan being gay? Orlando makes it well-known that he's bi. Rumor has it quite a few wrestlers are bi/gay, not surprisingly. You can read the rumors and stories on all kinds of forums - easily found with a search engine.

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    Originally posted by Packman V2
    I really wish he would just let me know if I can still play the game again or not.


Uuuum.....it's been 3 years of Vince totally ignoring you. I think it's time to wake up and get a clue.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.10
    Originally posted by chill
      Originally posted by Sobriquet
      What does any of this (re: Kanyon) have to do with X-Pac making a house show appearance?

    What's this about Sylvan being gay? Orlando makes it well-known that he's bi. Rumor has it quite a few wrestlers are bi/gay, not surprisingly. You can read the rumors and stories on all kinds of forums - easily found with a search engine.

    (edited by chill on 10.9.06 1650)


Well, the rumor is that Tommy Rich had some fun with NWA promoters so he could have his one week reign as the Champ.

And, a lot of wrestlers have hinted at Vince and HBK being gay . . . . . . with each other, if not at some point (HBK).



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.70
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Sylvan and Pat Patterson are pretty well known to be gay.
Sylvan's metrosexual

In regards to X-Pac...maybe they were popping more for DX than for Waltman. Knowing fans, if he came back, he'd be popular for a while before people started getting bored of him again.

And concerning Kanyon: So what if Kanyon's gay? Big flaming deal...I guess that now that he's gay, he thinks he can draw. His "Boo hoo, I'm gay, and I can't get a wrestling job" is grating on my nerves, and I just don't give a damn about him.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
    Originally posted by chill
    What's this about Sylvan being gay? Orlando makes it well-known that he's bi.


I think the rumor about Sylvan was that Patterson found him at a gay bar (or other homosexual establishment).
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    Originally posted by Mayhem
    That begs the question ... based on that pop he appears to be getting, is it in cards to bring him back? With HBK supposedly needing surgery, it would be a way to continue DX while he's on the shelf.
Boy, I hate speculation threads. They end up sounding so much like really stupid fantasy booking threads.
    Originally posted by chill
    Take it with a grain of salt that Kanyon is gay.
You're a moron. I shudder to think what kind of post you'd gift us with had his suicide attempt succeeded.
    Originally posted by Mayhem
    Kanyon would be perfect for rehashing the latter-day Adrian Adonis's Flower Shop.
AHHHHHHHH STOP YOUR FANTASY BOOKING (and now we know why you started the thread)
    Originally posted by chill
    What's this about Sylvan being gay? Orlando makes it well-known that he's bi. Rumor has it quite a few wrestlers are bi/gay, not surprisingly. You can read the rumors and stories on all kinds of forums - easily found with a search engine.
Maybe you could go use that search engine you're referencing if you're super interested in Sylvan's sexual preferences!
    Originally posted by too many people
    (rumours that wrestler X is gay...or bi...or not)
These posts are totally unnecessary and add no value and I don't want them here. So long, thread!

(If this is a topic you're dying to talk about, there are many other fine boards which will accomodate you)



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