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Since: 25.10.03
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
What?! After raising the price of PPV's to $35 and making WMania $50, WWE will now be running two PPV's a month. One for Smackdown and one for RAW, heres the news:

We have also been told that WWE's Bad Blood PPV will take place June 13th in Louisville, KY. There is also a plan to have a second PPV on June 27th. This would be the first month they will be running two PPV's, within two weeks apart

I think this is too much. There basically making people choose which brand PPV they think is worth buying. I honestly dont think even the biggest wrestling fan will shell out $70 a month.

Speaking of the brand "competition", Linda McMahon said in her conference call that 70% of viewers only watch one brand. That percentage is very high. The WWE is really starting to create tension but is it good for buisness?



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
What WWE doesn't understand is that there were markets for two PPVs a month in the days of WCW because WCW had its own particular fans. WCW really was a distinctly different brand, and offered an alternative to WWF programming; they were like the Subway to the WWF's McDonald's, whereas Raw and Smackdown are like McDonald's and Burger King.

Now, almost three years after their favourite company was buried forever, WCW fans have been turned off altogether. The wrestling audience simply isn't that large anymore, and having two PPVs a month for basically the same product but with different superstars is a money-losing proposition just waiting to happen. Unless the weekly TV shows are going back to the era of 'established superstar vs. jobber' in every match, there simply won't be enough PPV-quality matchups that you'll get people to pay for every single month. The way it is right now, where a brand has two months or so to build its storylines to a PPV blowoff, is a much better way of doing things, and even still we get random stuff like Bob Holly vs. Rhyno on the No Way Out card.



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Since: 10.1.02
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
Well they have to try it sometime, as that has been the long term plan all along. If 70% of viewers only watch one show, now seems like an ok time to go for it.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.33
They should just go back to the Big Five PPVs and screw all the little PPVs...



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The quoted passage mentions nothing about this being a recurring thing. It could be that this is a special show (maybe a Raw vs. SmackDown KOTR tournament) and that The E isn't going to go two shows per month.

If they do, they need to knock 'em down to $20 a pop and have the big 4 (Rumble, Mania, Slam and Series) be the only PPVs for their month.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.62
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Having ONE PPV per month is overkill. It was much more of an "event" when they would run them once every 3 months or so way back when. The monthly PPV's spread out the talent too thinly, that's why we get main events like Lesnar/Holly or HHH/Nash.



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Since: 7.2.04
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.15
Do you know what it means if they start running two PPVs per month? They have to come up with 12 MORE names for them! It's hard enough looking forward to whatever the PPV's called in October, because it's such a non-event now...the PPVs have become commonplace. As it is, they're more like Saturday Night's Main Event from the 80s than like the mini-Manias they should be. With so little build up between PPV's, it will leave so little room for 'the good stuff' on weekly programming, and storylines will no doubt get far too rushed. We'll get three weeks of build up...and then it will be time to PAY! It's the crack-pusher's approach to programming.

But what about those 12 new names? Summersplash? No Way In? Monster's Ball? What? They're having a hard enough time making the monthly PPV's seem important as it is. I think doubling them up will only water them down even further.

(edited by Stilton on 21.2.04 0818)


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Since: 19.6.03
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.30
My first thought was, "There's going to be a PPV in Louisville? Cool!"

But seriously, I agree that it is overkill - not only for the fans, but for anyone working in the business to come up with decent programs. You want to cap off storylines in your PPVS so that people will feel the need to purchase them in case they'll "miss something" if they don't. At the rate they were going with one a month (before the split), it was turning into a bunch of hurried storylines and crash-and-burn concepts. RAW still has some problems with that, but spreading out the PPVs for Smackdown seems to have helped it out.

I'm sure that the thinking here is to just test the waters and see if it works. They'll have to put up some big guns in order to get people to buy two in a row like that.

Now if they ran a special deal of, say, "$40 for two," they might be able to swing that.
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For as much as people complain about HHH, I think the idea of them having a PPV for each show every month would be the perfect barometer for them to see how much people don't particularly care for HHH or the fact that he is consistantly in the Main Event for every PPV. I don't know what the current standings are for RAW PPV buyrates Vs. Smackdown PPV buyrates, but maybe it's safe to assume that because there is so much dislike of HHH, fans will simply not buy RAW PPV's as much and turn more to the Smackdown PPV's. It would definately show RAW that it's not deadly to put the Title on someone other than the HHH and it would also generate new life for the show.

Personally, I don't think I would shell out $60 a month to see BOTH shows when I like Smackdown better because they have found a way to juggle their roster and find a place for everyone on it. I look at RAW and 'the usual suspects', you know, the guys who should be in great undercard storylines to remind us that they have a purpose for being on our tv's every Monday night, yet they have no story around them.

If they do it, I hope it bites them in the ass, deep and hard.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.20
Why are we all accepting this news as reality? I haven't seen it reported anywhere on the web, and even T.i.O provides no source. A little evidence too much to ask for before we blindly accept this as fact?



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
Why not experiment? If it flops, they don't do it again, if it works, keep doing it. There's no way to know unless you try.

Also, maybe the Smackdown only PPV is on June 27 instead of in July? Could have been a scheduling problem. Nobody really knows yet.
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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Why are we all accepting this news as reality? I haven't seen it reported anywhere on the web, and even T.i.O provides no source. A little evidence too much to ask for before we blindly accept this as fact?


I believe that at the very beginning of the brand extension, Linda McMahon announced that a long term goal would be seperate PPV's for each show. Now, as for how soon it's going to happen, no one knows for sure. But, the plans were for it to happen somewhere down the line.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.20
It took them over a year to just start booking the ones they already have differently, and look how bad THAT'S turned out in terms of buy rates. There's no evidence to suggest right now that they have any serious plans of implementing the "two PPVs a month" system-business is down, the shows would be a massive investment and they know there's not the market there to support it. Responding to the initial post and picking holes in an idea that doesn't actually exist at this point just seems like a pretty aimless thing to do.

Just my opinion.



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A few things, Brand Distinction, there is none. You can argue Smackdown has the better workers, better matches, and don't have Triple H around to hold people back. I agree But the styles in the show really aren't much different, this isn't no WCW vs. WWF difference.

If they do go in this direction, they will also loose what I feel was the one HUGE benefit of having bi monthly brand PPV's, the actual build. And they have over the past year build up some pretty good programs, as they have had two months instead of just one. Plus, with all the recent cuts, do they have the depth to pull this off with 4 weeks of TV? You have a rooster of about 30 guys, give or take on both sides, how many combinations will you be able to pull off and keep it fresh? It gets stale as it is, but this will send that into rapid acceleration. The only cure for, which I can figure, would be going back to the Jobber matches.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
Well, it's overkill in my opinion, and it's because of the fact that they haven't learned to milk a good feud for a while. Once it gets good, then the match happens on a PPV, then the two guys just move on. Eddie/Chavo, anyone (though they might go again on PPV, track record says no)?



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
"They should just go back to the Big Five PPVs and screw all the little PPVs...:

I feel the same way. It would make them seem more special and allow time for storylines to develop instead of being rushed.

(edited by RawIsDan on 21.2.04 1052)
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.44
I don't buy two PPVs in a year, let alone a month. Paying $35 for a PPV that usually sucks is foolish. If they lowered their brand exclusive PPVs to $15 and their dual-brand PPVs to $20, I would consider buying more of them. However, I guarantee that if they stuck to Survivor Series, Summerslam, Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, and an event to fill the shoes of KOTR, I'd buy almost all of them. Of course, that doesn't make sense for them financially, and I'm probably in the minority anyway.

As a hardcore fan with little income, I'd rather buy their 'Best Of' DVDs than their watered down and rushed overpriced PPVs.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.53
    Originally posted by Y2J 420
    They should just go back to the Big Five PPVs and screw all the little PPVs...


I bet the boys who need those PPV payoffs to provide for themselves would disagree with you.



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I have to agree with a lot of ur guy's opinions. yes, making two ppv's a month would be a little much...and the way Raw is going, there's no idea of how it would turn out there. Smackdown has shown that they could give us good fueds, but with the right amount of time. I like having a certain brand's ppv every other month. to tell u the truth, I don't even buy Raw's ppvs, and I'll buy a Smackdown ppv every once in awhile. this all depends on how the fueds r built. If they have 2 ppvs a month, there wouldn't be time for building fueds, and I don't think as many people would be buying ppvs. I know I wouldn't. I think they should just stick with what's goin on right now.



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