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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.29
Survivor Series Elimination Match
Ric Flair/Sgt. Slaughter/Dusty Rhodes/Ron Simmons (with Arn Anderson) d. Spirit Squad

(Simmons and Mitch simultaneously counted out; Nicky p. Sarge; Kenny p. Dusty; Flair p. Mikey; Flair p. Kenny; Flair s. Johnny; Flair is sole survivor)

United States Title Match
Chris Benoit d. Chavo Guerrero by submission with the Crippler Crossface (Benoit retains U.S. Title)

Women's Title Match
Mickie James d. Lita by pin with the DDT (Lita wins her second Women's Title); afterwards Cryme Tyme does an embarrassing skit to send Lita packing

Survivor Series Elimination Match
Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy and CM Punk d. Edge, Randy Orton, Mike Knox, Johnny Nitro and Gregory Helms

(Michaels p. Knox with Sweet Chin Music; Punk s. Nitro with Anaconda Vice; Matt p. Helms after Matt's Twist of Fate and Jeff's Swanton; Michaels p. Edge with Sweet Chin Music; Hunter p. Orton after Pedigree; all five babyfaces survive)

First Blood Match
Mr. Kennedy d. The Undertaker after MVP's errant chairshot misses Kennedy and hits 'Taker instead

Survivor Series Elimination Match
John Cena, Bobby Lashley, Kane, Rob Van Dam and Sabu d. Big Show, Umaga, Finlay, MVP and Test

(Umaga gets himself disqualified by hitting RVD and then Cena with a TV monitor; RVD p. MVP with the Five-Star Frog Splash; Test p. RVD with the Big Boot; Sabu p. Test with springboard DDT; Big Show d. Kane after shillelagh hit and chokeslam; Lashley p. Finlay with the Spear; Cena p. Big Show with the FU; Cena and Lashley are sole survivors)

World Heavyweight Title Match
Batista d. King Booker after hitting him with the title belt (Batista wins his second World Heavyweight Title)


Keller's calling this an extremely disappointing PPV. I didn't see it. Anyone else have anything to say?



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.97
It wasn't the greatest but not bad.
Love that CM punk went over big and got a huge reaction. Tonight was as big a night for him as anyone.


(edited by numbskull on 26.11.06 2153)
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.53
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Keller's calling this an extremely disappointing PPV. I didn't see it. Anyone else have anything to say?

i rarely buy WWE PPVS (i think this year only WM, ECW ONS, and this) and this is pretty much why. looks great on paper, plays out terribly on TV.

they buried lita on the way out, which is fine i guess, but it was terribly unfunny the way they did it. really hope she goes to TNA.

team DX was sort of a joke. first of all hunter totally got upstaged by punk during his little pre-match segment, as the philly crowd was hot for punk, chanting his name loudly during the "ladies and gentlemen" bit. you just know that wont end well if youre a cm punk fan. then they proceeded to bury mike knox (pinned in like 5 seconds) and pretty much that whole team.

if you bought the PPV hoping to see umaga, sorry pal cause he was out in the first minute too. and RVD got jobbed to test, which is kind of disgusting on many levels.

in fact, i can't remember one great moment from this PPV. not one spot, not one promo. what a waste of $40.

TNA is cleaning WWE's clock lately which is why i've been buying TNA every month.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.96
Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes, Sgt. Slaughter, & Ron Simmons d. Kenny, Mikey, Nicky, & Johnny -- Not as fun as I was hoping for. Okay, but seemed a little disorganized. Afterward, Spirit Squad beat up on Flair. Can they really drag this feud out further?

Chris Benoit d. Chavo Guerrero -- Good, short match. I'm suprised Benoit won.

Mickie James d. Lita -- Okay match. Not great. Afterward, Lita yelled at the crowd. Cryme Tyme came out, and started selling all of Lita's stuff from a box. I thought it went on too long, until JTG came out with this line:

"Lita's box! It's cheap, it's wide, you can put your head in it."

I love Cryme Tyme. JTG is a boatload of charisma, and a star in the making.

Triple H, Shawn Michaels, CM Punk, & Hardy Boyz d. Edge, Orton, Mike Knox, Gregory Helms, & Johnny Nitro -- CM Punk was over huge. During the DX warm-up, the fans started chanting Punk's name, to the point that Hunter had to acknowledge it. He let Punk start off with the "Are you ready?" stuff. Michaels pinned Knox about 5 seconds into the match, and then asked Hunter who he was, who replied with "Some guy from ECW." Okay, Mike Knox' career is FUCKED! Punk pinned Nitro. Matt pinned Helms. Orton & Edge tried to run away, to no avail. Michaels pinned Edge. Hunter pinned Orton. Clean sweep for the faces. Best match of the night.

Mr. Kennedy d. Undertaker -- Undertaker bled due to a chairshot from MVP, so I guess that's the next feud. Undertaker destroyed Kennedy afterwards, including a stiff as HELL chairshot to his unprotected head.

John Cena, Bobby Lashley, Rob Van Dam, Sabu, & Kane d. Big Show, Umaga, Test, Finlay, & MVP -- Okay, but rushed and dissapointing. Umaga was DQed right out of the gate for hitting all the faces with a TV monitor. RVD pinned MVP. Test then pinned RVD (there's your #1 face in ECW, guys!). Sabu pinned Test. Show pinned Sabu. Show pinned Kane. Lashley pinned Finlay. Cena pinned Show. If you wondered who was winning the Chamber next week, this answered it. Show & Lashley were made to look like stars. Meanwhile, RVD, Sabu, and Test looked like mid-card jabronies.

Batista d. King Booker -- Poor match. Crowd was dead. Batista got the win. I'd prefer more King Booker, personally, but whatever.



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I'm claiming one over the great JR by remembering straight away that besides Team DX tonight, twice a team has remained as a whole at Survivor Series.

In 1990, The Visionaries - 'The Model' Rick Martel, The Warlord, Hercules & Paul Roma defeated The Vipers - Jake ‘The Snake’ Roberts, ‘Superfly’ Jimmy Snuka, Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty.

In 1991, Sergeant Slaughter, 'Hacksaw' Jim Duggan, The Texas Tornado, Kerry Von Erich & Tito Santana defeated Colonel Mustafa, The Berzerker, Skinner & Hercules.

Saw the UK showing of Genesis too tonight. Personally I still don't think TNA can compete on the bigger scale of things.

(edited by mikebuk on 27.11.06 0418)


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.72
I watched the PPV at the local theatre on the big screen, first time I've done that. I enjoyed watching it on that, but the PPV itself was disappointing.

The heel team was treated like a joke in the DX match. The tone was set early when Knox was pinned five seconds in, and the only time the faces were in jeopardy at all was when Punk placed face-in-peril for a bit (EDIT: my apologies, I forgot Matt got beat on for a bit too). I thought for sure Punk was gone when Orton hit the RKO. For some reason the ref let the entire face team stay in the ring at the end of the match to pick apart Edge and Orton.

The Cena match also had too much of the ref just letting guys come in without tags. Cena and Lashley double-teamed Big Show at will near the end without tagging each other until Show finally succumbed to them. The string of eliminations in the middle of the match also happened a little too quick for my liking.

Super-screwy finish to the first blood match, but I suppose those matches always end like that. I would have liked for them to build to weapons and tease the bleeding more, but I admit Taker's psychology of going for the internal bleeding instead was unique.

Though Lita and Mickie James was sloppy at points, I liked the near falls near the end of match. I know she's a heel, but I think Lita deserved a better send-off than Lawler and JR making non-stop slut jokes throughout the match. I thought the stuff with Cryme Tyme was stupid and went on far too long.

The legends vs Spirit Squad match was okay for what it was.

Benoit vs Chavo was decent as well, and the finish surprised me. I thought Chavo would have been taking the title here.

Odd that they had Batista win via belt shot as opposed to cleanly. The match was alright, though Batista has never really entertained or impressed me to any significant degree.

(edited by hayden on 26.11.06 2235)

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.78
    Originally posted by mikebuk
    I'm claiming one over the great JR by remembering straight away that besides Team DX tonight, twice a team has remained as a whole at Survivor Series.

    In 1990, The Visionaries - 'The Model' Rick Martel, The Warlord, Hercules & Paul Roma defeated The Vipers - Jake ‘The Snake’ Roberts, ‘Superfly’ Jimmy Snuka, Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty.

    In 1991, Sergeant Slaughter, 'Hacksaw' Jim Duggan, The Texas Tornado, Kerry Von Erich & Tito Santana defeated Colonel Mustafa, The Berzerker, Skinner & Hercules.

    Saw the UK showing of Genesis too tonight. Personally I still don't think TNA can compete on the bigger scale of things.

    (edited by mikebuk on 27.11.06 0418)


In 1995 Undertaker's team swept King Mabel's team which included Lawler, Yankem/Kane... and HHH.

Unless I'm remembering incorrectly.

Edit: Maybe JR meant Five-Man teams.

(edited by Redcumo on 26.11.06 2036)
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.72
Mabel, Mo, Butch and Luke (dressed as Doink) swept Bam Bam, Bastion Booger and the Headshrinkers at the '94 Series. In '99, Big Show attacked the rest of his team members backstage and fought alone, beating all four of his opponents, so you may be able to make an argument for that one too.

Randy Orton's streak of being the sole survivor three years in a row came to a screeching halt.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.82
Could the ECW brand get buried anymore than it did tonight? Just about everyone from the ECW side (not named CM Punk or Big Show) was made to look bad, including a total burial of Mike Knox courtesy of DX. Then again, if anyone needed burial, it was Mike Knox.

Batista and Booker was awful. I'm really worried about Batista getting the ball again, because he hasn't exactly shined since returning from injury.

The Flair/Spirit Squad feud needs to die now. And can they PLEASE just get the inevitable Spirit Squad breakup over with and move these guys away from that insipid gimmick?

I wasn't surprised to see Benoit retain. If anyone thinks this feud is over, they haven't been watching WWE TV for the past 5 years.

Damn, what a chairshot from UT after the match! That was a concussion-level shot! Did Kennedy give him the green light for that one or was this a case of UT just being a dick?

If I paid money to see Umaga, I'd have been pissed. Luckily, nobody paid to see Umaga.

What a waste. I could have gone to Hooters for the money I blew on this PPV.

(edited by It's False on 26.11.06 2309)


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Reading some of the recaps of the show, I'm unsure of a couple things about the first blood match

- MVP prevented Kennedy by distracting the ref when he was bleeding out of his mouth, and then turned out him, trying to get him to bleed - did that series of events make more sense live?

- Were the announcers trying to position Undertaker as a heel for his post-match attack? That's not exactly the direction I thought they'd go, though it does fit with some other recent speculation.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.76
Hmmm...the Philly crowd -- the smarkiest and some of most rabid fans around -- going bonkers-gonzo for one of the smarkiest wrestlers around, as HHH does his trademark entrance(s)? GASP! No way!

I think the Punk-reaction tonight was an exception to the rule. Punk is over, yes, but he's more/less performing in front of his own people. For anyone to assume (not that anyone has . . . yet) that Punk is white-hot is a little over-zealous.

I've said Punk is overrated before, but it comes from that fact that his whole gimmick could so easily be picked apart* by someone who had the leverage to be poignant on the mic (like classic piper, 97 Michaels, etc) and his whole "serious" aura would be killed.

As for Lita -- her send-off could have been a long overdue punishment for yelling at Vince when he criticized her for being being repetitive in her matches (according to a shoot with Matt Hardy). Vince is like an elephant after all. I'll miss her all the same though.

* = Please don't try to argue the tired, "well, you could say that about any wrestler/hold -- it's all fake" because that's obviously not the context I'm implying. At least an arm wringer implies bending shoulder/wrist the WRONG way . . . not the natural way like the Vice.





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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.33
Well, I spent $300 on 3rd row seats behind the announcer for this PPV. Overall, I enjoyed it. The Booker/Batista match going last confused me. I assume since it was a title match, they let it go last, but it wasn't the match everyone came to see.

I don't know if I would call Philly is CM Punk's "own people". We like him cause he's good. I would say Chicago is CM Punk's best crowd. If he was around for the original ECW's run, he would have been as big as RVD in ECW though. I just hope someday he gets a decent push on RAW.

And screw you guys, but I thought the Lita/Cryme Tyme stuff was funny. Its kind of a shitty way to send Lita out after 7 good years, but I didn't have a huge problem with it. Mickie is extremely over in Philly though.

I also didn't "get" the UT/Kennedy match either. Besides a weak chair shot causing UT to bleed like he did being really stupid, the ending was very odd. Is MVP supposed to be a face or is Kennedy gonna turn face? MVP will never be over in his current form. He sucks. The crowd knows he sucks. He reminds me of how Rocky Mavia debuted in 1996. He has a stupid outfit on and crappy gimmick. I highly doubt MVP will ever become anything close to the Rock's level though.

BTW, Carlito beat Haas in the pre-show dark match that no one cared about. Carlito gets a decent pop, but is stuck in angles that no one cares about.

And post show only had Batista posing for what seemed like hours. He did a mini-Eddie shoulder shake tribute though which was nice. It was almost like he was doing an homage to Shawn's WM 12 "boyhood dream" gimmick where he almost cried because he was so happy.

(edited by Kane Is Ugly on 26.11.06 2359)
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
So let's see: Kennedy gets beaten like a jobber for most of the match, bleeds first but cheats to cover it up, doesn't even make Taker bleed on his own, and gets beaten into a bloody heap after the match, while Taker gets to pose and has his music played. This is what we refer to as "Undertaker putting over the new talent."

And no, the MVP/Kennedy angle made no sense at all live either. Is Kennedy going to turn face and feud with MVP? That's the only possible explanation I can think of.

(True story, by the way; I walked out for an excretion break when they started the Taker/Kennedy recap, waited for a bit, did what was necessary, got in line at the food stand, waited a bit more, bought a pretzel and soda, and walked back to my seat ... just in time for Taker to finish his entrance.)

I think I was pretty much the only DX-hater in the arena -- certainly in my section -- which disappointed me sorely. And since I *am* a DX-hater, that match left a bad taste in my mouth -- even a Hardyz reunion couldn't wash it out. Hell, when Shawn and Jeff did their stereo plancha, Matt was left just standing alone in the corner, looking like he'd missed his cue for something. Sorry, Matt, you're not over, you don't get to do the cool spots anymore.

Still, I enjoyed Legends/Squad, Benoit/Chavo, and Team Cena/Team Show, and I can give a pass to Batista/Booker and Mickie/Lita, sloppy as they were, because everything is naturally cooler live. So, thumbs slightly up.

(Oh, and the guy with the "PILLMAN 9MM" sign? Not in my section, unfortunately. If he had been, I would've ... well, thought really unkind things about him.)



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#14 Posted on
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    Reading some of the recaps of the show, I'm unsure of a couple things about the first blood match

    - MVP prevented Kennedy by distracting the ref when he was bleeding out of his mouth, and then turned out him, trying to get him to bleed - did that series of events make more sense live?


MVP cleaned up Kennedy's blood because if he throws him to the wolves and he's bleeding, the match ends. He coveres it up and Undertaker gets to keep on beating on him



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.51
Not a good show. Team matches fell into the time-waster category instead of the ones they actually put effort into, like the '03 and '04 main events.

- Gotta protect Faarooq! Damn!

- Benoit/Chavo was as nothing as a Benoit match can be.

- Lita/Mickie ended up okay with their good nearfalls at the end. Lita was good at her tantrum. The Cryme Tyme skit was super lame and that as the Lita sendoff is such a stupid waste. They could've done a cool angle with her going out as a heel OR face to set up Hardyz/Rated RKO for ECW, assuming that's the match, but nope. I suppose that could happen tomorrow, otherwise the Lita/Edge relationship just ceases to exist with no blowoff.

- DX match was fun for the Punk reaction, some decent action, and thems guys being gregarious enough to let their teammates share in the obliteration. Thank heavens they didn't beat Punk tonight; that was a cool moment. Also HBK as the goofball actually made me LOL twice, the first two times all fall, with the Knox stuff which was great and then the Melina embrace. Team DX vs. The Visionaries of 1990 would be a huge showdown.

- Kennedy getting a fluke win over Taker is fine and ideal. Then Taker killing Kennedy after seems kind of, completely purpose-defeating. You're supposed to run away with your tainted victory and brag to set up future revenge. Getting the revenge right away is stupid. Especially on a night when they beat every heel in the company except William Regal.

- The Cena match had ... those two good spots with the Little Bastard. RVD and Sabu are losers.

- Batista/Booker sucked and Batista sucks and Batista/Undertaker as the Wrestlemania main event will suck.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
We follow one poorly booked PPV Sunday with another, I guess. The positioning of the matches and the time given made absolutely no sense, given the interest invested in the matches prior to the show. It's nice that Batista/Booker got treated as the ME, I guess, but the match was awful and the Team DX/Team RKO bout would've been far better positioned at the top of the card. Well, if they'd bothered making it anything other than a showcase, anyways.

Loathe as I am to say, the separate entrances probably should've bit the dust for this one. There wasn't a massive mount of fat on the show, and given all the wrestlers involved on the card they needed all the in-ring time they could get.

Still, one big plus of the night: CM Punk. A small part of me hopes that his big reactions tonight make them rethink the booking for the Chamber next weekend. It's a longshot, but it's still.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.29
Lita's sendoff sounds a bit overdone, but does it really matter?
Most people see her as a heel/ho now, and thus it goes with the character to be treated like this.
There is no way she would have gotten a nice standing ovation for all the work she has done in the past seven years.

It's like the Jericho thing last year. His gimmick at that point was that of a whiner, so why not have him cry and scream all the way to the back.

I am sure she got a nice pat on the back backstage and a warm hug for all her ground- and neck-breaking moves all those years.

And who knows..for all we know tonight Edge & Orton attack Cryme Tyme for what they did, and we have ourselves a tag title feud?!



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Yes, Taker's team in 1995 did all survive as well. I was quite surpised that JR couldn't rememeber any of the all surviving teams or at least he might have had the references to hand.

Michael Cole tries to make out that he is the memory man on Smackdown but I doubt he does it without a voice in his ear.

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.51
J.R. did remember, out of all the matches in SS history, that Big Show beat an entire team by himself in 1999. That was kind of neat. He also comes up with random stuff like Cena being undefeated at the Survivor Series. But obviously when he was talking about clean sweeps I was going VISIONARIES, THE VISIONARIES, DADDIO. The Visionaries were an amazing unit although I would've called them the Doctors of Style.

(edited by JustinShapiro on 27.11.06 0900)
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.48
I didn't catch the PPV, but there was no doubt that the Taker-Kennedy match would finish the way that it did.

Yes, kudos to Taker for "putting over" the young guys. And now it is rumored he will be in the WM main event vs. Batista??? Guess they had to keep him strong. You can't have Undertaker lose any of that heat he has been able to maintain for about 15 years now.



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