Apparantly WWE has just signed two Playboy Divas, probably just for a feud with Torrie/Sable but...
Got this from Wrestlepain:
"Many WWE superstars are upset with management for their recent signing of two former Playboy Playmates. It's generally felt by most people backstage that the WWE should spend their time & money to recruit women who have actual in-ring experience."
Originally posted by XPacArmyI can understand why they are upset. God forbid they hire more female wrestlers to add to the show.
Didn't ypu read what was written?
Originally posted by jkIt's generally felt by most people backstage that the WWE should spend their time & money to recruit women who have actual in-ring experience
So shame on the wrestlers who want more women WRESTLERS. Shame on them for not wanting women who don't know a wristlock from a wristwatch. prick.
Two of the women who've carried the division over the last two years were hired as fitness models who had no clue how to wrestle. Will it be the same with these girls? Who knows. Probably not.
Want to see Morgan Webb naked? Let Playboy (playboy.com) know.
I totally agree. WWE has this very bad habit of making women nothing but eye candy- Torrie, Dawn, Sable, Stacy, and Jackie. Those five women overshadow pretty much all the other divas (Victoria, Trish, Molly, Jazz, Lita, Ivory, Nidia, and Jacqueline.) that actually earn there keep by putting on some rather decient matches. Come on, even Lilian has better wrestling skill than half of those five women! That's sad.
Personally, I'm tired of seeing those five women just prance around and look cute (even though I kinda like Torrie and Stacy). It's like those threads going around about cutting the rosters down- if they aren't doing anything constructive, hand them the pink slip.
I'm not even sure why they brought Sable back. All she's done is make out with Vince, Train, and Ernest. AND pose for playboy...
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Okay- the women's matches are getting better, but T&A is getting more focus. These Playmate signings seem to indicate this will continue. So would anyone, namely Molly, do better by going elsewhere, say Japan?
Originally posted by CerritaI totally agree. WWE has this very bad habit of making women nothing but eye candy- Torrie, Dawn, Sable, Stacy, and Jackie. Those five women overshadow pretty much all the other divas (Victoria, Trish, Molly, Jazz, Lita, Ivory, Nidia, and Jacqueline.) that actually earn there keep by putting on some rather decient matches. Come on, even Lilian has better wrestling skill than half of those five women! That's sad.
Personally, I'm tired of seeing those five women just prance around and look cute (even though I kinda like Torrie and Stacy). It's like those threads going around about cutting the rosters down- if they aren't doing anything constructive, hand them the pink slip.
I'm not even sure why they brought Sable back. All she's done is make out with Vince, Train, and Ernest. AND pose for playboy...
Women have always been eyecandy in wrestling and women will always be eyecandy in wrestling. Why do you think Jazz always works heel. Nobody wants to cheer an ugly broad whether she can work or not. What's morally right isn't the point. What sells is.
I'm sure it's quite the uproar backstage as well. Give me a break you think that most these guys care? The WWE might as well sign women who are willing to get naked first and then teach them to wrestle rather than sign women who can wrestle and won't pose naked. It's the way the business is today and it's good business at that. Cross promoting with Playboy is one of the only cross promotions that hasn't blown up in their faces. So, why are we acting all shocked and appalled here people?
"So would anyone, namely Molly, do better by going elsewhere, say Japan?"
No.
Unless you meant as, like, a vacation.
"Those five women overshadow pretty much all the other divas (Victoria, Trish, Molly, Jazz, Lita, Ivory, Nidia, and Jacqueline.) that actually earn there keep"
Yup, Trish Stratus definitely gets overshadowed by those other girls and isn't the company's most featured female performer or anything.
"Personally, I'm tired of seeing those five women just prance around and look cute"
They are cute alright. *whistles* Except Jackie Gayda, she has a fat face.
Originally posted by jkApparantly WWE has just signed two Playboy Divas, probably just for a feud with Torrie/Sable but...
Got this from Wrestlepain:
"Many WWE superstars are upset with management for their recent signing of two former Playboy Playmates. It's generally felt by most people backstage that the WWE should spend their time & money to recruit women who have actual in-ring experience."
What does everyone think?
I think you, jk, should stop starting threads and asking what everyone thinks!
Originally posted by XPacArmyI can understand why they are upset. God forbid they hire more female wrestlers to add to the show.
Didn't ypu read what was written?
Yes I did. But I guess I must have worded it wrong. I mean I can understand why they are upset that they signed 2 non-wrestling females. Like the article said they SHOULD be trying to get more female wrestlers for the show.
It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!
This depends on the types of contracts they signed the playmates to: If it was with a high downside guarantee or a long term deal (wait, Vince giving someone who has never wrestled a long contract? That never happens. By the way, less than 2 and a half years on the Mark Henry contract of doom), then the 'boys/girls in the back' have a right to be upset. But, if its short money/short term, its not hurting them, and at least it keeps talent from being contaminated by Torrie and Sable.
I want you to know: I agree with everything I just said.
Well, in the company's defense, if they're going hire women, I'd rather they rush out and sign eye candy but pick the wrestlers alot more carefully. Eye candy just has to be pretty, but the wrestlers have to be pretty (yes, they do) and be able to work, AND be able to work above average. Look at Lita, for example. They were all set to push her to the top of the division when she came back, but the crowds shit all over her matches. She still gets a good reaction when she comes out, but she's not at the level of the other women, and even the regular crowds know it. If the company wants the lady wrestlers to be taken seriously, and it really seems like they do, then the women need to be better. So I can justify making more quick, frivolous signings of eye candy, but being a lot more selective about the actual talent.
Excalibur nailed it. It's not like they're going to take these girls and put them in main events unless they can handle the training. The woman they named their "Women's athlete of the decade" was not brought in with any expectations to turn her into a worker.
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I also like the irony that the "wrestlers" supposedly upset at the fact that non-wrestlers are given a shot are most likely barely wrestlers themselves. Either models, acrobats, screaming hosses, or guys with 3 years training who now think that they are WWF calibur main eventers.
Originally posted by CerritaTorrie, Dawn, Sable, Stacy, and Jackie. Those five women overshadow pretty much all the other divas (Victoria, Trish, Molly, Jazz, Lita, Ivory, Nidia, and Jacqueline.)
Despite that Victoria, Trish and Molly get far more TV time than *any* of those other five, except maybe Dawn Marie, who it's made clear is of no real worth besides being a slut.
Furthermore, saying Lita, Nidia or Jacqueline (or Ivory) "earn their keep" is pretty questionable, since they're all pretty terrible at wrestling. If they wanted good wrestlers, there are places to find them. They don't care, obviously. And I don't think it matters, since no matter how terrible Lita is, people still love her.
Originally posted by JMShapiro"Those five women overshadow pretty much all the other divas (Victoria, Trish, Molly, Jazz, Lita, Ivory, Nidia, and Jacqueline.) that actually earn there keep"
Yup, Trish Stratus definitely gets overshadowed by those other girls and isn't the company's most featured female performer or anything.
I'm sensing some sarcasm, so I will elaborate.
What I meant was that I think she is being overshadowed in the sense that, really, when was the last time we saw Trish in a real gimmick match? (the bra and panties match against Jackie didn't exactly count, it was more of a joke. I'm talking about gravy matches, paddle on a pole, lingerie, those kinds.) She hasn't been in Playboy, and isn't making out with Jericho at every available opportunity. She dresses somewhat conservatively, and isn't 'sucking' up to the boss for favors. Trish wrestles, plain and simple, and aside from the Diva of the Year award, isn't getting a whole lot of 'diva style' publicity.
HHH: You two had better stop your ambiguiously gay excersions before I kick you happy asses out of Evolution, damn it! (H yelling at Ric & Randy from 'God Knows', http://www.fanfiction.net/.) ~~*~~*~~ Triple H is like fine wine, his grace and talents accented gracefully by his advancing years. Ah, yes, just like fine wine; that or those triple chedder nachos I forgot in the back of my fridge for three months. ~~*~~*~~ Be good, Vince. Don't be dumb.
Originally posted by CerritaWhat I meant was that I think she is being overshadowed in the sense that, really, when was the last time we saw Trish in a real gimmick match? (the bra and panties match against Jackie didn't exactly count, it was more of a joke. I'm talking about gravy matches, paddle on a pole, lingerie, those kinds.) She hasn't been in Playboy, and isn't making out with Jericho at every available opportunity. She dresses somewhat conservatively, and isn't 'sucking' up to the boss for favors. Trish wrestles, plain and simple, and aside from the Diva of the Year award, isn't getting a whole lot of 'diva style' publicity.
Are you saying you want Trish in gravy matches, Playboy and making out with Jericho at every available opportunity?
I apologize if I'm being stupid, but I don't really get what your point is.
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