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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
    Originally posted by Heims
    Two rounds of Defend The Indefensible:

    Brie had to lose for the sake of the Bella Twins. A Brie win would have made them an afterthought: Brie's role would be "valet for absent guy," and Nikki would be her sidekick, and together they'd be jobbers to Paige and AJ? They're much better off feuding with each other. I guess you could have had Brie win this time, Steph demand a rematch next month (only $9.99) and Nikki turn then. Yeah... actually, I think that would make some sense. Still, I'm content to see this as building up Steph for the inevitable showdown with AJ in a couple years.

    Swagger had to lose because his ultra-patriotic babyface gimmick is a dead end. (Hooooooo!!) I think it's Zeb who's over moreso than Swagger, and anyway, take away Rusev and they're both dead in the water. Swagger's going to go beat Miz and Rollins and Orton and Wyatt and Lesnar in the name of America and we the people? Maybe Cesaro, leading to a double-turn? It's so much more natural for faces to defend the honor of America against Rusev than it is for American heels to act ridiculous to make a one-note babyface gimmick work. Of course, they could have avoided this whole conundrum by just making it an actual Flag Match and having Swagger eke out a gutsy win by making Rusev a one-legged man, but...

    (EDIT: way to beat me to that whole paragraph, Justin)

    (edited by Heims on 18.8.14 0217)


To me, the proper methodology would be Brie getting the triumphant win here, then getting new champ Paige at NoC (winning a contender battle royal after AJ gets cheated in a Raw rematch). THEN Brie would turn on her for getting a title shot after Nikki took beatings for her all those weeks. I'm less negative on the Bellas than most, however, at least in the ring (they're still bad on the mic), and they're pretty to look at, so it doesn't bother me anyway, and should take up much less time now that Steph isn't involved.

Swagger doing the pass-out job is absolutely a gift to him, but I hope no one makes the mistake of thinking Swagger's ever going to be anything. That ship pretty much sailed after he totally tanked his WHC run post MitB. Him getting over was a blessing for Rusev so he could beat someone with actual babyface heat. I presume he's going after Sheamus and the US Belt next? I hope so, 'cause I"m a little afraid Dolph won last night just to be intermediary "RUSEV CRUSHED" out of that belt on Raw tonight.

(edited by GodEatGod on 18.8.14 0833)


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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.06
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    Originally posted by GodEatGod
    To me, the proper methodology would be Brie getting the triumphant win here, then getting new champ Paige at NoC (winning a contender battle royal after AJ gets cheated in a Raw rematch). THEN Nikki would turn on her for getting a title shot after Nikki took beatings for her all those weeks.

Ding ding ding. There was a sensible time, place and scenario for Nikki to turn, but last night was NOT it.



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While the switch from Cena to RVD should alleviate some complaints, the inevitability of the belt's return to Cena (note where Summerslam is this year) and the poor initial showing by the new ECW are enough to keep the indicator where it is for now. The pieces are in place, though, especially on RAW, for improvements to be made to the IWC's psyche in the near future.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.48
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    I can't see Bryan ever facing Brock.


I agree with some others that it seems to make for the best, most likely story - the guy who had his title taken away comes back to clean up the chaos left in his injury wake. But I agree with you, only on the pessimistic principle that I don't think Bryan will ever re-ascend to the heights he was at, simply because he got hurt and the WWE can be oh so spiteful to their belt holders when they go on the shelf (see: Ziggler, Dolph or arguable Barrett, Bad News). I certainly would be very surprised if Bryan returns to a Rumble win and second Mania main event ----- but I'm happy to be wrong.

I must be in a foul mood this morning, because my second thought was: Batista, fresh off the GotG success, comes back in the face role they always intended him to have. Except I think the Universe will soundly boo that out of the building, too, which would ruin Batista for anything other than a "Die Rocky Die" run as a heel.

I guesss it's Reigns then, though Ambrose sounds way more compelling. The interesting one in the mix is Rollins, since he should be in no hurry to cash that in.

Excellent Summerslam this year. Didn't have the Punk/Lesnar battle that ranks in my top five matches, but all-around was far superior of a show.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
1) Is Bryan even going to be healthy enough to wrestle against Lesnar? Maybe I'm overly concerned about things, but he still ha s lot of recovery.

2) It wouldn't be hard to pull the trigger on Cesaro, I think.

3) Regarding Ambrose.....well, they do have in a movie. That's something, right?




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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.73
Went to the neighbors to watch the main event. They watched on their laptop and the feed was HORRIBLE. Stopping like every two minutes for about 15 seconds. His wife was getting pissed, but he and I were like, "Look, we can't do anything about it." Anywho, I absolutely LOVED Cena's beating.
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.34
The Lumberjack match was the only good Lumberjack I've ever seen. It sounded lame on paper, but it made sense seeing as how the ring was surrounded by a roster of guys the Shield bullied into submission for near two years. Then Ambrose and Rollins have so much hatred for each other that they end up fighting through the lumberjacks just to hit each other, and since most Superstars (much like women) secretly hate each other cue glorious chaos!

I figured this sudden shifting of Cesaro's status in the company is part of the hazing/humbling process Vince and Creative like to enact on guys after a few months of solid booking. Give them a hot streak of feuds and title runs, then just lose them in the shuffle with no direction for 6 months to a year and if they are still with the company and the crowd still loves them THEN they are taken seriously. They may need to curtail this process because the WWE desperately needs new main eventers and Brock v. Cesaro would be fantastic. He'll need to be a face though.

Brie v. Nikki....ugh..... man did Stephanie look good out there! I didn't know she worked for Professor Xavier and the other X-men on the side though.

This show was pretty rad, Wyatt and Jericho worked much better this show as opposed to last month as they told a story of "Jericho can't keep up with Bray's crazy for too long". The big moment of Miz finally getting hit in the face by Dolph would of had a huge reaction... had they not just let Roman Drains hit him the face several times days before the PPV on Smackdown. Way to deflate that angle Creative. Match was great, glad to see Dolph out of that doghouse.

The only match I had a problem with was Roman v. Orton. I dozed off during it. I usually like Orton matches, but he works best with someone with a more frantic style that can bump around and has some variation in their offense. This was not one of those matches. Reigns is not the one, he's nowhere near the main event material they think he is.

Now is the time to build new solid main eventers to challenge Brock. Defaulting to Cena would be terrible at this point as far as hooking fans that may tune in to see Brock as champion in the WWE again. Bryan isn't guaranteed to come back any time soon and Punk is out. Throw Ambrose and Wyatt's crazy at Brock. Build up Cesaro as being the company's new Superman, Rollins can be the Authority's reluctant champion waiting in the wings while Orton tries to battle the Beast. People love Dolph, Brock as champion is your fresh slate Vince now take advantage!

Oh yeah, people didn't expect Swagger to be taken seriously after all the times he's screwed up did they?

I'm surprised nobody mentioned Cena wrestling in Nikki's underwear. #cenathong

(edited by CruelAngel777 on 18.8.14 0646)

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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.23
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.76
    Originally posted by GRL
      Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
      I can't see Bryan ever facing Brock.


    I agree with some others that it seems to make for the best, most likely story - the guy who had his title taken away comes back to clean up the chaos left in his injury wake. But I agree with you, only on the pessimistic principle that I don't think Bryan will ever re-ascend to the heights he was at, simply because he got hurt and the WWE can be oh so spiteful to their belt holders when they go on the shelf (see: Ziggler, Dolph or arguable Barrett, Bad News). I certainly would be very surprised if Bryan returns to a Rumble win and second Mania main event ----- but I'm happy to be wrong.




I should have added that I can't see Bryan facing Brock due to how physical this match would have to be to tell the story that needs to be told. That's why I think you start with Sheamus go through Ambrose and maybe Bray and end with Reigns or Cena
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.89
If it can't be Bryan, I think they're going to just have to back the money trucks up to CM Punk's house. I can't imagine the bridges are THAT burned -- if they were, no way AJ would be with the company still. The story tells itself, too. Lesnar turns on Heyman, says he never needed him, and Heyman does the groveling to Punk that stands in for WWE management. And to top it off (in a perfect world, at least), they actually DO bring back the WWE Ice Cream Bars as short-term apology!
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Summerslam was great and entertaining from start to finish. The lumberjack match had me cheering out loud. Dean Ambrose is the MAN. I agree with most here that Brock looked like a god last night, but Ambrose brought so much hatred, violence, and all-out destrucity to this match, I wanted so badly for him to utterly destroy Rollins. The curb stomp was great. The use of the lumberjacks was awesome. I hate that Ambrose lost, but I think he's bulletproof at this point. The audience senses a true badass and they are right.



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.95
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.56
The pre-show match outcome and the main event couldn't have been more in opposition, could they? Was that a symbolic journey of starting with everything they've been doing wrong and finishing with what they needed to be doing?

I would have maybe had Swagger win there or have Rusev kill him (the character) to open Raw with a funeral for Jack Swagger, who would be in a glass coffin on stage for the whole show surrounded by honor guard, but I guess since they were going to kill John Cena later on, that option was out. Good match all things considered, though. Rusev kind of abandoned the work he was doing all match selling the ankle to do the flying spin kick that would have had to hurt either ankle, but what're you gonna do, right? I genuinely have no idea what either of them does next at this point.

Ambrose/Rollins feels like a slam-dunk angle that they've either intentionally or unintentionally screwed up at nearly every turn thus far, but that was the best possible lumberjack match and pretty enjoyable, minus the entrance way spot it seems like we all expecting to send Dean away for a month. Ambrose's "screw it, I'll just punch Ryback in the face" move as soon as he was thrown out of the ring was a fine character detail, because Dean Ambrose is his own worst enemy. That clearly should have been a cage match instead of a "ring surrounded by every guy in the company who had at least one angle dropped over the past four months" match, and ideally, they would have made the lumberjacks form a literal human cage, but I liked a lot of the touches like Big E putting aside his burning hatred of the company that misused him to lead the face lumberjack charge that stopped Rollins, and Goldust getting in Kane's face and Ambrose just throwing lumberjacks back over the guardrail because screw those guys. Also, Rollins finally giving the drunken rebound attack a good sell. The basic story of the match being the basic story of their characters (Ambrose makes things harder for himself because he's insane, Rollins figures out the angles and finds a way to win and also he can no longer teleport since he drew his BAMFing ability off proximity to Reigns) was smartly done within the parameters of the worst traditional gimmick match.

I thought Stephanie did everything in her power to make the bulk of the Stephanie/Brie match good and she pretty much succeeded. There's a certain line of the Stephanie praise that I think is overdone - the part where it turns into "Well you know, Stephanie and the Authority have a point..." (No they don't, they literally hired an evil magical super-rapist to stalk a woman to lure out her husband, then had the magic super-rapist break his neck by repeatedly tombstoning him on steel steps so he had to get surgery, then sent two thieves to steal the belts from his home), but yeah, she put her all into an otherwise terrible angle and made it work aside from the stuff last week and basically carried the theoretical full-time wrestler to a surprisingly enjoyable match. Also props to HHH (and Brie, I guess?) for Brie's elevated baseball slide/dropkick through the ropes. Unexpected spot that actually worked.

(Do we have a consensus on which Bella is the worse actor? I was half-expecting Nikki to say "Now, Hunter? Do I attack my sister now?" to match her body language while she was standing outside the ring.)

SPEAKING OF CARRYING PEOPLE, which I was before that aside, Orton stepped up and carried Reigns for the tail end of that match. Loved the Superman Punch sell (Reigns should cut out the shotgun cocking move, though; come on, Roman, stop messing around with your best spot, I feel like I shouldn't have to keep saying this), the absolutely amazing powerslam counter to the spear and the RKO counter to the Superman Returns Punch. I still love you, Secret Superworker Randy Orton. The actual finish, though, stunk. The Spear ain't doing it for me outside the context of Shield matches.

Oh yeah, the main event. New favorite Cena match! That was a serious, amazing spectacle. I wanna get the only negative about it out of the way first: it was a reminder of how insane they were to completely waste Lesnar for an entire year by having him lose to Cena and do all that garbage with HHH. Because this guy, holy shit. Everything that Brock does in the ring is incredible, from the way it looks like his head is going to burst to the explosiveness of his moves. LOVED the unhinged laughter after he took Cena's best shot. Really liked him constantly giving Cena outs (the non-chalant cover mid-way through, asking Robinson to call the match) that were half arrogance, half "I don't want to have to kill him, but I will." And Cena sold the hell out of all of it. That took balls to do and they did it and wow. The only way that could have been better is if Brock had picked up Cena and torn him in half at the waist, Mortal Kombat-style.

Now let us all picture Wrestlemania XXXI, where Roman Reigns takes four F5s and 32 german suplexes and then beats Brock with a single spear. They...they can't do that, right? Like, they have to know? There's another world, an alternate world, where the Shield break-up didn't happen yet and Cool Superbadass Roman Reigns leads the Shield out on Raw tonight to stare Brock down where we'd all be out of our minds over it as the show closed, but we don't live in that world. Nor do we live in the world where Cesaro even getting a match with Brock makes sense. So I don't know what they should do.

As stop-gap opponents for Brock, I'd definitely feed him Jericho and Batista and then give him a super competitive match with Sheamus while building up Dolph (or rebuilding Cesaro) for the Bob Holly Memorial Rumble Match, but for WM itself, either they need to do serious, serious work on Roman Reigns (which means throwing the breaks on pushing him in exactly the same way that got people to hate Cena), hope for Bryan to comeback or maybe, just maybe throw in with Ambrose and sell it on the idea that Ambrose is too insane to know he can't beat Brock.

ALSO! John Cena's reaction to the most brutal ass-kicking of his entire life should be that we get a payoff to Kane's and Wyatt's embrace-the-hate campaigns and he is the one who takes on the Mask and Hair of Kane and becomes the Devil's Favorite Cena in a misguided attempt to stop Lesnar.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.69
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    The only way that could have been better is if Brock had picked up Cena and torn him in half at the waist, Mortal Kombat-style.

Or Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk:




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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.65
I had a very different experience with this show than most everyone here, it seems. First of all, I completely forgot the show was on last night, so I didn't watch it until this morning. That was my final clue to go ahead and let my subscription lapse; if I'm not going to watch it live, it's much more convenient to simply pirate it.

Rusev's facial expressions near the end of his match were absolutely great. Regal-esque, even.

The Lumberjack Match was one of the most stupidly-booked matches I've ever seen. When Kane came out, I thought for sure he was going to change it to a Falls Count Anywhere Match. Instead, he emphasized how stupidly booked the match was. Since when were there no count outs in a Lumberjack Match?

Cena vs Lesnar was possibly the most boring match I've ever witnessed. I get the story they were trying to tell, but if that's the best they can do, they should consider telling it in a different medium altogether.

Wyatt vs Jericho was a decent enough match that allows Wyatt to move on to a better storyline. I'm not confident that such a storyline is in the works, though. But, hey, Michael Cole kept pointing out how much crowd support Bray Wyatt has. Why not put him up against Lesnar? It would make sense with his goal of proving that John Cena is a fraud.
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#35 Posted on
I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu here when it comes to Lesnar. Back in 2002 after Lesnar beat The Rock at Summerslam and then the Undertaker twice, we were all thinking who in the world is going to beat this guy now? And then I thought about all of Lesnar's notable losses.

-Lesnar loses to Big Show at Survivor Series 2002 (Heyman turn)
-Lesnar loses to Kurt Angle on Smackdown in 2003 in an Iron Man Match (clean)
-Lesnar loses to Eddie Guerrero at No Way Out 2004 (Goldberg interference)
-Lesnar loses to Goldberg at Wrestlemania XX (clean)
-Lesnar loses to John Cena at Extreme Rules 2012 (clean)
-Lesnar loses to HHH at Wrestlemania 29 (clean)

Out of 6 of these matches, there is only one where I thought that Lesnar's opponent deserved to win and that's the Kurt Angle match. My point is, it's almost impossible to have Brock Lesnar lose to someone and make it look believable. The reason why John Cena and HHH got the clean victories recently is because of who they are. Other than those 2 guys, I don't think there's anybody else in the company right now that would be booked to beat Lesnar clean.

So which one is it going to be, people?

A) Lesnar turning on Heyman and Heyman costing him the title (ala Big Show)
B) Some kind of interference that allows the underdog to win (ala Eddie Guerrero)
C) Money in the Bank cash-in
D) Clean loss

I definitely think it's either A or B (most likely B) and that it's going to happen before Wrestlemania, maybe Survivor Series.
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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.95
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Don't know quite how to feel about Lesnar/Cena just yet. The story being played out was clear, but it *was* a bit boring for a while. And for me, that's because I had no idea it was going to be a Lesnar squash. And it wasn't until the last bell rang that I *did* realize it. And then I loved it. It was just like me getting overly pissed at a WWE video game because I cannot freaking beat John Cena on normal difficulty. So then I turn the difficulty to the lowest level, and spend fifteen minutes beating the shit out of him, laughing like I was the greatest video game player ever.

I may have not noticed before, but does Lesnar sweat profusely like that all the time? He was sweating buckets less than five minutes in.

When was the last time Jericho got a countdown clock kicking off his entrance? Am I way offbase saying he hasn't used the countdown in years?





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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.64
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    Now let us all picture Wrestlemania XXXI, where Roman Reigns takes four F5s and 32 german suplexes and then beats Brock with a single spear. They...they can't do that, right? Like, they have to know? There's another world, an alternate world, where the Shield break-up didn't happen yet and Cool Superbadass Roman Reigns leads the Shield out on Raw tonight to stare Brock down where we'd all be out of our minds over it as the show closed, but we don't live in that world. Nor do we live in the world where Cesaro even getting a match with Brock makes sense. So I don't know what they should do.


Yeah, this is troubling. I think Daniel Bryan still has a case, having beaten Cena the previous year, never technically losing his title, and being the guy who was originally going to be facing Brock at SummerSlam in the ultimate underdog match. In kayfabe, the Yes Lock and Running Knee are still credible finishers and it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility or Lesnar to tap if Bryan got him in that position.

He doesn't have the size and strength credibility that Angle had as a wrestler, but at least has credibility as the best pure wrestler on the current roster, and popularity that was unmatched at one point.

But it really seems like they have tunnel vision with Reigns lately. They could still put the brakes on that experiment, though. They have until the Rumble.

Reigns did get a bigger reaction at SummerSlam than translated on-screen, but he did seem to be adding a little too much salt to his mannerisms. He's really trying everything to see what sticks as he figures out who the hell he is, even though like you pointed out, what people liked about him in the first place was basically his role in The Shield.

    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    ALSO! John Cena's reaction to the most brutal ass-kicking of his entire life should be that we get a payoff to Kane's and Wyatt's embrace-the-hate campaigns and he is the one who takes on the Mask and Hair of Kane and becomes the Devil's Favorite Cena in a misguided attempt to stop Lesnar.


Well, it was a prelude to Hogan's heel turn when he did it:



    Originally posted by BootsToAsses
    I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu here when it comes to Lesnar. Back in 2002 after Lesnar beat The Rock at Summerslam and then the Undertaker twice, we were all thinking who in the world is going to beat this guy now? And then I thought about all of Lesnar's notable losses.


This is equally troubling. Wrestling does not have a history of paying off undefeated streaks well. I mean, WrestleMania 30 was actually a pretty amazing moment, but that's the exception to the rule. And even then, Brock seemed like a lameduck going in and it took the internet months to process and accept it.

Brock's original undefeated streak ended with a nonsensical Paul Heyman turn and The Big Show getting the win in the hopes that Brock could be a babyface (a lesson I hope they've learned from). It's possible that this could all be building up to Batista getting a run, or Big Show for all we know.

I'd actually love to see Batista be a challenger to Brock, because those two match up pretty well. Brock should win, though.

But, so far, they're on the right track with Brock. It's all on them to mess it up. They've paid off the Streak win by having him annihilate John Cena, so I remain optimistic.

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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.59
    Originally posted by Mr Shh

    I may have not noticed before, but does Lesnar sweat profusely like that all the time? He was sweating buckets less than five minutes in.




The last time I saw someone that red and sweaty was the Warrior on Raw the night before he died.

Speaking of German suplexes, did we ever get any Benoit/Lesnar match-ups?

I liked the story they were telling, but it just seemed to go on and on. Too long. Punk seemed to get in much more offense last year.

Does anyone know what Damien Sandow was supposed to be?
A literal lumberjack maybe?

As a Diet Dew drinker, it frustrates me to always watch Michael Cole's go untouched.
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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.65
    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    Brock's original undefeated streak ended with a nonsensical Paul Heyman turn and The Big Show getting the win in the hopes that Brock could be a babyface (a lesson I hope they've learned from).


If I remember correctly, Lesnar was injured at that point and they thought he was going to need more time off than it ended up requiring. That might have just been a rumor, though.


    Originally posted by dwaters
    Speaking of German suplexes, did we ever get any Benoit/Lesnar match-ups?


Yes. Benoit made Lesnar tap in a 5-on-5 Survivor Series match. They also wrestled on Smackdown at least once:



The actual match starts at about the five minute mark.
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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.01
    Originally posted by BootsToAsses
    I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu here when it comes to Lesnar. Back in 2002 after Lesnar beat The Rock at Summerslam and then the Undertaker twice, we were all thinking who in the world is going to beat this guy now? And then I thought about all of Lesnar's notable losses.

    -Lesnar loses to Big Show at Survivor Series 2002 (Heyman turn)
    -Lesnar loses to Kurt Angle on Smackdown in 2003 in an Iron Man Match (clean)
    -Lesnar loses to Eddie Guerrero at No Way Out 2004 (Goldberg interference)
    -Lesnar loses to Goldberg at Wrestlemania XX (clean)
    -Lesnar loses to John Cena at Extreme Rules 2012 (clean)
    -Lesnar loses to HHH at Wrestlemania 29 (clean)

    Out of 6 of these matches, there is only one where I thought that Lesnar's opponent deserved to win and that's the Kurt Angle match. My point is, it's almost impossible to have Brock Lesnar lose to someone and make it look believable. The reason why John Cena and HHH got the clean victories recently is because of who they are. Other than those 2 guys, I don't think there's anybody else in the company right now that would be booked to beat Lesnar clean.

    So which one is it going to be, people?

    A) Lesnar turning on Heyman and Heyman costing him the title (ala Big Show)
    B) Some kind of interference that allows the underdog to win (ala Eddie Guerrero)
    C) Money in the Bank cash-in
    D) Clean loss

    I definitely think it's either A or B (most likely B) and that it's going to happen before Wrestlemania, maybe Survivor Series.
Lesnar won the iron man match. He did lose to Angle in the previous two PPV's though.
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How about Tazz's tease after the Little Girl comment to Josh TAZZ: "Hissy mean's little girl, you know all about that... JOSH: "No I don't"... TAZZ: "Yeah that would be (tazz pauses)
- Net Hack Slasher, Velocity - 09.20.03 (2003)
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