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From WWE.com:

In a blatant attempt to create controversy and further enhance the character of RAW’s chief antagonist Triple H, last night’s Monday night RAW on TNN (rated TV-14 LVD) presented an alleged act of necrophilia.

Triple H, poorly disguised as his chief adversary Kane, presented a skit in a funeral home using a mannequin that simulated the body of Kane’s former girlfriend Katie Vick.

WWE Executive Producer Kevin Dunn, stated that numerous warnings to WWE viewers about sensitive subject matter did air prior to the segment. “While the subject matter is sensitive, on balance this was an attempt at dark humor capitalizing on the popularity of programs such as CSI, Six Feet Under and X-Files,” said Dunn.


I don't watch any of the three shows, so I can't say if their humour is similar to what happened last night...perhaps some of you can shed some light?




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#2 Posted on
I DO watch the X-Files (for 5 years), and they knew when to step away. Those WWE fools don't know dark humor if it came up to them, gave them an enema, and kicked them off the top of the Sears Tower.

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Remember when Russo was going through his second run as WCW booker and got obsessed with shooting? Remember how the announcers would randomly refer to wrestlers by their real names and imply that certain segments were really happening while others were fake? Remember how Goldberg "walked out" of a three way match with Nash and Steiner, how Tank Abbot "shot" on Goldberg?

Remember how Vince Russo and Bob Ryder justified this approach by saying WCW was capitalizing on the popularity of reality TV shows like Survivor, Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, and Big Brother?

Remember how well it all worked out?

Because apparently nobody at World Wrestling Entertainment does.
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I'm sorry Kevin Dunn. I must have missed the CSI, X-Files, and Six Feet Under episodes where they were fucking corpses and throwing brains on the camera.

EDIT: Pato wanted me to tell all his adoring fans "Hi".

(edited by DrHogie on 22.10.02 0932)


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I am obsessed with Six Feet Under, and there's never been any necrophilia. And believe you me, they've had ample opportunity.



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    Originally posted by Mandark
    Remember when Russo was going through his second run as WCW booker and got obsessed with shooting? Remember how the announcers would randomly refer to wrestlers by their real names and imply that certain segments were really happening while others were fake? Remember how Goldberg "walked out" of a three way match with Nash and Steiner, how Tank Abbot "shot" on Goldberg?

    Remember how Vince Russo and Bob Ryder justified this approach by saying WCW was capitalizing on the popularity of reality TV shows like Survivor, Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, and Big Brother?

    Remember how well it all worked out?

    Because apparently nobody at World Wrestling Entertainment does.



I guess being the only game in town, Vince thinks he can pull crap like this and get away with it. Whoever thought of that should be fired! I can't believe anyone (Stephanie?) didn't shoot that segment down the second it crossed the desk. Of course, it's HHH, and whatever HHH wants must be good for business, right?



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    Originally posted by mountinman44

      Originally posted by Mandark
      Remember when Russo was going through his second run as WCW booker and got obsessed with shooting? Remember how the announcers would randomly refer to wrestlers by their real names and imply that certain segments were really happening while others were fake? Remember how Goldberg "walked out" of a three way match with Nash and Steiner, how Tank Abbot "shot" on Goldberg?

      Remember how Vince Russo and Bob Ryder justified this approach by saying WCW was capitalizing on the popularity of reality TV shows like Survivor, Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, and Big Brother?

      Remember how well it all worked out?

      Because apparently nobody at World Wrestling Entertainment does.



    I guess being the only game in town, Vince thinks he can pull crap like this and get away with it. Whoever thought of that should be fired! I can't believe anyone (Stephanie?) didn't shoot that segment down the second it crossed the desk. Of course, it's HHH, and whatever HHH wants must be good for business, right?





I hate defending Trip, but this wasn't his call. This was Vince and Steph/Steph's call. And, as always, this is Vince just talking about his own sex life, because sleeping with Linda is necrophilia.



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    Originally posted by DrHogie
    I'm sorry Kevin Dunn. I must have missed the CSI, X-Files, and Six Feet Under episodes where they were fucking corpses and throwing brains on the camera.

    EDIT: Pato wanted me to tell all his adoring fans "Hi".

    (edited by DrHogie on 22.10.02 0932)



In the X-Files, the episodes on this subject (with Donny Pfast(sp?)) could not even say the 'n' word, so Mulder and Scully were dealing with a 'Death Fetishist'. I guess it isn't suitable to be handled in a sensible way on Fox, but it is a subject suitable for gross-out humour on cable.

I know X-Files and SFU have 'dark humour', but from what I have seen of CSI, it does not hit me as a laugh-a-minute show.



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Actually, his name was Donnie Pfaster. I thought it was handled as sensitively as possible.

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    Originally posted by Ringmistress
    Actually, his name was Donnie Pfaster. I thought it was handled as sensitively as possible.

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It was sensibly handled. It is just never mentioned at anytime that he has 'sexual relations' with a corpse. Many people in Alabama may believe that he just collects bodies, like some people do with thimbles.



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#11 Posted on
Man,Kevin Dunn has totally misinterpreted the meaning of "Dark Humor" totally forgetting the part that is has to be HUMOROUS!!!


There was nothing humorous about the WW(F)E necropheliac version of the Red Shoe Diaries that they put on last night,it was just really stupid.






Does this look like a man who would dry hump a mannequin?
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The HHH corpse video was just so --i dunno. I just found it to be so freaking morbid.
I could never understand how anyone could have
found that to be entertaining, nor would i want to.





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    Originally posted by BrewGuy
    From WWE.com:

    In a blatant attempt to create controversy and further enhance the character of RAW’s chief antagonist Triple H, last night’s Monday night RAW on TNN (rated TV-14 LVD) presented an alleged act of necrophilia.

    Triple H, poorly disguised as his chief adversary Kane, presented a skit in a funeral home using a mannequin that simulated the body of Kane’s former girlfriend Katie Vick.

    WWE Executive Producer Kevin Dunn, stated that numerous warnings to WWE viewers about sensitive subject matter did air prior to the segment. “While the subject matter is sensitive, on balance this was an attempt at dark humor capitalizing on the popularity of programs such as CSI, Six Feet Under and X-Files,” said Dunn.


    I don't watch any of the three shows, so I can't say if their humour is similar to what happened last night...perhaps some of you can shed some light?



The problem with their "warnings" is that they work the crowd/viewers so often with lies and swerves that one never knows when to truly believe them. How was anyone to know that they were serious? And as far as warnings go--what about the people live in the audience? I was half-expecting them to not show anything or for Kane to stop HHH from showing it--but NO. That would have made TOO MUCH SENSE within *ahem* WWE "logic."

And further--attempting to disguise this as dark humor and intrigue ala "CSI" or "Six Feet Under" is bullshit when what it really is is a shitload very ideas. If you want top notch dark humor and intrigue hire some real fucking writers. Then maybe they wouldn't have to apologize so much.

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I have never been outraged watching wrestling before last night.

The video was bad. I mean it was stupid and embarassing to watch, but it wasn't the most offensive part of the show.

What really pissed me off was that cackling jackass Lawler making "necrofilia" jokes for the second half of the show. Does he even realize just how sick he sounds?

I don't know...it's just not right.



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It was horrible on TV, but imagine if you had saved up your money to take a couple of your sons around the age of 10 or so to the arena last night? Every time you see a crowd shot at RAW there are plenty of kids age 10 or younger. How in the hell do you explain that crap to them? I guess if it was my 6 and 7 yr old I would have told them to take a concession stand break as soon as it started, but they would have still seen part of it.

That was the worst hunk of steaming shit since the "crucifixion" from a few years ago.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.21


Six and seven year olds have no business at WWE event. Smarten up.



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#17 Posted on
"What really pissed me off was that cackling jackass Lawler making "necrofilia" jokes for the second half of the show. Does he even realize just how sick he sounds?"

I sent Lawler an email today (he provides a link from his website) about that very subject. Surprisingly, I've had a pretty good response rate from him, though, it's been awhile since I've sent him anything.

I seriously hope I get a response on this one because I'd be very curious to see how he talks himself out of this one.

(edited by The Tino Standard on 22.10.02 1250)
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#18 Posted on
Oh man,I just remebered that RAW was from right here.......in Nashville,Tennessee(thumbs up!!!).


Man from now on we are going to be known for being the city that Triple H dry-humped a mannequin in.









Does this look like a man who would dry hump a mannequin?
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#19 Posted on

    Originally posted by ICEMAN
    Oh man,I just remebered that RAW was from right here.......in Nashville,Tennessee(thumbs up!!!).


    Man from now on we are going to be known for being the city that Triple H dry-humped a mannequin in.










But is that better or worse than being known as the city Vince Russo still writes in?



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#20 Posted on

    Originally posted by pieman
    Six and seven year olds have no business at WWE event. Smarten up.


The WWE's own parents-information site contains a section explaining the TV ratings for each WWE program. In this section, WWE RAW is described as being appropriate for ages 14 and older.

That would go double for those attending the actual live show, where there are no seven-second delays, quick camera cutaways or let's-put-the-camera-on-this-while-security-takes-care-of-that distractions.




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