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So says wwe.com. I'm surprised they mention him as Scorpio, since the one time he did wrestle in WWE this last run (overseas house shows), he wrestled as Flash Funk.





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So much for the 3-man La Resistance reunion on ECW I heard ahout.



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The only bad thing about Conway being released is that they never took the opportunity to have him do his catchphrase about doing things the "Con-way" around a certain Mr. Cool, who could then have shot back that it was better to do things "Carlito's Way."

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Scorpio was on the roster huh?
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Kinda sucks about Conway ... He's a pretty good wrestler that never really caught on ...
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Conway was great in OVW, but he never really got a fair shake in WWE. Much like the newest members of TNA, the Bashams.

Sadly, I don't think there is room for Rob in TNA, they don't have enough TV time to showcase their current talent. It's kind of sad, because the guy has talent. I am sure his former OVW tag partner Eugene can't be safe from the chopping block either.




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*blinks* I had forgotten Scorpio was on the roster. For that matter, I can't remember the last time I saw Conway, either. Wasn't it when he got fired by Vinnie Mac shortly before he began his feud with Donald Trump?



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So, at what point does someone go to creative and say "How about instead of releasing wrestlers because we have no storylines planned, we fire creative for failing to come up with anything?"

I hate the "creative has nothing for you" excuse when some guy gets released. Far too many guys with talent have gotten released while useless guys like Khali are main eventing PPV's. I will never understand Vince's constant hardon for big useless "hosses".
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.53
Flash Funk gone? With RVD expected to leave, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sabu go, too, and then Vince would have all 3 major pot smoking ECW icons off the roster...






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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.72
    Originally posted by Kane Is Ugly
    So, at what point does someone go to creative and say "How about instead of releasing wrestlers because we have no storylines planned, we fire creative for failing to come up with anything?"

    I hate the "creative has nothing for you" excuse when some guy gets released. Far too many guys with talent have gotten released while useless guys like Khali are main eventing PPV's. I will never understand Vince's constant hardon for big useless "hosses".



I don't think that's very fair to just blame the creative department because someone who actually had a good chance to get over, couldn't. Mutliple time Tag Champ who got to break away on his own, c'mon, he had his chance. Yea, creative probably sucks and to an extent it's their fault for just letting the guy dwindle, but who knows whether or not Conway was coming up with stuff on his own instead of just sitting on his hands. Either way, Conway was boring, right down to his stupid music. No amount of "talent" -- can save you from getting canned if you don't have the other half of the equation, which is charisma. And Conway had "the look," so to just blame it all on creative is bogus.

And really, what is considered talent in a worked industry anyway? The guys who made the most money (i.e. -- put the most butts in the most seats consistently) weren't the ones having (subjective) 5-star matches. No, the ones drawing the ginormous crowds were the Hogans, Rocks, Andres and Austins. The only exception to this is Ric Flair, but even Flair wasn't relying on his match quality -- he relied on his charisma. Are these guys any less talented at what they did or is it a different kind of talent?

Also, I'm not saying that only big guys work in wrestling, for the record.

Maybe the lumbering of the big guys like Khali is especially evident because there aren't managers anymore to cover the charisma part for these guys.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.20
    Originally posted by Whattaburger
      Originally posted by Kane Is Ugly
      So, at what point does someone go to creative and say "How about instead of releasing wrestlers because we have no storylines planned, we fire creative for failing to come up with anything?"

      I hate the "creative has nothing for you" excuse when some guy gets released. Far too many guys with talent have gotten released while useless guys like Khali are main eventing PPV's. I will never understand Vince's constant hardon for big useless "hosses".



    I don't think that's very fair to just blame the creative department because someone who actually had a good chance to get over, couldn't. Mutliple time Tag Champ who got to break away on his own, c'mon, he had his chance. Yea, creative probably sucks and to an extent it's their fault for just letting the guy dwindle, but who knows whether or not Conway was coming up with stuff on his own instead of just sitting on his hands. Either way, Conway was boring, right down to his stupid music. No amount of "talent" -- can save you from getting canned if you don't have the other half of the equation, which is charisma. And Conway had "the look," so to just blame it all on creative is bogus.

    And really, what is considered talent in a worked industry anyway? The guys who made the most money (i.e. -- put the most butts in the most seats consistently) weren't the ones having (subjective) 5-star matches. No, the ones drawing the ginormous crowds were the Hogans, Rocks, Andres and Austins. The only exception to this is Ric Flair, but even Flair wasn't relying on his match quality -- he relied on his charisma. Are these guys any less talented at what they did or is it a different kind of talent?

    Also, I'm not saying that only big guys work in wrestling, for the record.

    Maybe the lumbering of the big guys like Khali is especially evident because there aren't managers anymore to cover the charisma part for these guys.


Well, with Conway, I understand. And his theme was AWESOME BTW. But, its not like Conway got to really show anything after he went solo. I mean, he was almost never on RAW. How can a guy be taken seriously if he only wrestles on Heat?

But, what I meant about creative is that guys like Jamie Noble are just sitting at home when they could be over HUGE on Smackdown or RAW. I understand he got fucked when Kid Kash got released, but still, I don't see how hard it would be to get him a new gimmick or just let him be himself again. The guys got talent. And along those lines, why isn't Beth Phoneix on RAW again? And why is Paul Burchill still in OVW? WWE has tons of talent signed but creative seems to be too stupid to find a place for them.

I just dont get why Umage and Khali get these huge pushes and the real talented guys sit in oblivion. I see it too damn much and it pisses me off. Maybe if they stopped hiring hollywood writers and got people who actually know a little something about wrestling, they wouldnt have to release these guys cause there is nothing for them to do. Also, it would help if they stopped hiring guys left and right only to release them a few months later. I mean, what was the point of hiring 2 Cold Scorpio if you never were gonna use him? Was he that bad in the ring?
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The idea of Scorp was to provide a vet on the ECW house shows. We saw what happened there.

And I think the idea is that "creative doesn't have anything for you" is code for "we don't think you're good enough/marketable/have enough charisma etc. to be on the roster.

I don't they've ever had a money idea for Rob Conway that Steph and Vince were like "how 'bout we give that to Khali instead."

If they actually wanted to keep a guy, they'd give him something to do.

Meltzer discussed this on WOL a few weeks back. Like, the midcarders and what not are really booked on a week to week deal. In the case of Noble, when his team with Kash went bust, it's not like they were going to call an emergency booking meeting to come up with something for him. The idea is that if an idea comes up that would work for him or if someone takes a shine and decides to push him, that's his role. Giving guys roles and pushes just to give them something to do gets into the Russo style of booking that inevitably leads to Chavo Guerrero: Amway Salesman.
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There was a good three-month stretch in late 2005 where Conway was given ample chances to get over on Raw. He was going over people left, right and centre.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.53
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    There was a good three-month stretch in late 2005 where Conway was given ample chances to get over on Raw. He was going over people left, right and centre.


Not to mention the whole "I'm the Con-man and I do things the Con-way" gimmick was supposedly come up with by Rob himself...






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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.67
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    There was a good three-month stretch in late 2005 where Conway was given ample chances to get over on Raw. He was going over people left, right and centre.

Was that the one where he was beating "Legends" like Doink?



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
And Jimmy Snuka, and Hacksaw Jim Duggan, and others. As well as going over almost every other midcard act at the time. They DID make an effort with the guy, and no-one gave a shit.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.50
Kind of like how they make an effort with a Khali and no one gives a shit.




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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.51
    Originally posted by Whattaburger
    The guys who made the most money (i.e. -- put the most butts in the most seats consistently) weren't the ones having (subjective) 5-star matches. No, the ones drawing the ginormous crowds were the Hogans, Rocks, Andres and Austins. The only exception to this is Ric Flair


Rock and Austin were amazing wrestlers and had like a million great matches.

    Originally posted by Kane is Ugly
    I just dont get why Umage and Khali get these huge pushes and the real talented guys sit in oblivion.


Umaga is very good.

This has been, wrestlers who are good, by me.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by kentish
    Kind of like how they make an effort with a Khali and no one gives a shit.


Buiilding a feud around Undertaker facing a man even bigger than he is or John Cena overcoming the odds against an unstoppable giant is a Hell of a lot more logical than slotting Rob Conway in there. You could've at least gone for the Randy Orton comparison - I wouldn't agree with it, but it'd make far more sense.



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