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| #21 Posted on 25.6.11 1545.38 | Instant Rating: 9.10 | Eddie was knocked down to the midcard after they had him drop the title, partly for his own protection and well-being. Still, working with Luther Reigns and the Bashams was well beneath his starpower at that point.
But after his turn, his performance as a heel, and the ratings that he and Rey drew during their feud, they got behind him again and basically came to the realization that he was on the shortlist of their biggest stars. To the point where they programmed him with Batista and he was probably going to get the title back. There were tentative plans for Michaels/Eddie at Wrestlemania 22 as well as an Eddie/Undertaker program after they had a house show match that blew everybody away where Eddie was believable as a small heel because he ruthlessly attacked UT's eye.
The Chavo/Cara thing seems to have gone WWE: hey Chavo you're Mexican and therefore a lucha guy, right? so you can work with Sin Cara since you know his style exactly? Chavo [wasn't a luchador, has worked American wrestling for 15 years]: uh...sure. yep that's me, a real lucha libre. hooray Chavo push! ooh Chavo todo el mundo Then The Match: big mess Chavo: nah see this guy sucks WWE: damn it Chavo
Originally posted by thecubsfan See, I've always thought that it wasn't Chavo stayed in WWE to help out Vicky after Eddie died as much as WWE was worried about potential (legal) problems and kept Chavo around longer than they were otherwise interested in him just to head those off.
Yeah, WWE kept Chavo around for so long and probably always would have because he knew where the bodies were buried, literally. He found Eddie's body and he got the Benoit text.
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| #22 Posted on 25.6.11 1603.47 | Instant Rating: 3.23 | | Never liked Chavo. Won't miss him. And after his stupid comments I'm almost glad he's gone. Good luck in TNA, you Guerrero, you. | redsoxnation
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| #23 Posted on 25.6.11 1610.32 | Instant Rating: 5.28 | | Between WCW and WWF/E Chavo got a paycheck for 15 years. Not much more you can look for in the business if you aren't a top guy. | Mr. Boffo
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| #24 Posted on 25.6.11 1714.36 | Instant Rating: 7.60 | Originally posted by Scottyflamingo I have never liked Chavo since Eddie passed. It is just hard for me to respect anyone who would stay with a company that disgraced a relative's death in multiple angles.
On the other hand, they gave him a paycheck, and Eddie's widow is going on four years of a steady paycheck. Pride doesn't pay the rent. | AlbySure
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| #25 Posted on 25.6.11 1949.10 | Instant Rating: 6.37 | Former WCW'ers left on the WWE roster:
- The Big Show (former WCW champion) - Goldust (injured) - Rey Mysterio - William Regal - Booker T (multiple time WCW champion. I always forget how many times exactly, though.) - Theodore Long - Triple H - Undertaker - Hugh Morrus (I dunno, is he still under contract post-Tough Enough?) - Charles Robinson - Scott Armstrong
Honorable Mentions: - The Rock (former WCW champion) - Christian (Alliance member) - Cody Rhodes, Ted DiBiase, David Hart Smith, Michael McGillicutty, Natalya (offspring of former WCW talent) - John Morrison (former Eric Bischoff apprentice) - AJ (likely a devoted Nitro viewer in junior high) | thecubsfan
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| #26 Posted on 25.6.11 1950.41 | Instant Rating: 9.33 | - Hugh Morrus (I dunno, is he still under contract post-Tough Enough?)
Supposedly a FCW trainer now.
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| #27 Posted on 25.6.11 2034.50 | Instant Rating: 2.77 | Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
Originally posted by Scottyflamingo I have never liked Chavo since Eddie passed. It is just hard for me to respect anyone who would stay with a company that disgraced a relative's death in multiple angles.
On the other hand, they gave him a paycheck, and Eddie's widow is going on four years of a steady paycheck. Pride doesn't pay the rent.
He would have been able to get work in Mexico or the Indies for life. Probably could have been a big part of ROH or TNA. Would he get WWE money? Who knows? I do know that WWE does not pay that much better than anywhere else for talent below the upper midcard/main event.
Besides, does money make it okay? I would have told them to kiss my ass as soon as Randy Orton was out there talking about Eddie being in hell. | thecubsfan
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| #28 Posted on 25.6.11 2347.05 | Instant Rating: 9.33 | I do know that WWE does not pay that much better than anywhere else for talent below the upper midcard/main event.
Oh no, this is wrong. You may not be making crazy money, but you can do a lot better there even as a guy lower on the totem pole. Plus, you're dealing with one promoter that you can 100% count on, rather than the logistical nightmare of dozen of promoters, some of which will screw you in some way or another (no pay, cancel too late to get booked elsewhere, just string you along.) Far fewer of indy guys are doing that as their full time job than people realize; most have at least part time jobs as something else.
The few guys who do better on the indies do so because they were names in WWE or top stars in other promotions; Raven probably had a long stretch where he was doing better as an indy guy than he would've done in WWE, but Chavo isn't Raven.
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| #29 Posted on 26.6.11 1027.56 | Instant Rating: 8.71 | Was Chavo the last active wrestler who came over during the InVasion?
He was a solid undercard guy, the definition of talent enhancement, and he enjoyed a nice ECW title angle with Punk. He had the Guererro gift of gab, and he seemed able to work well against anyone. But I couldn't give you an exciting angle for him if you offered me money for it.
Good, not great. Reliable, not marketable. Chavo.
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| #30 Posted on 26.6.11 1104.36 | Instant Rating: 4.00 | Chavo is one of those guys that would have done a lot better 20-25 years ago when there was a real tag team division.
All his most memorable moments in wrestling were alongside Eddie in some form or another. I imagine that can be tough to come to terms with.
Originally posted by thecubsfan The few guys who do better on the indies do so because they were names in WWE or top stars in other promotions; Raven probably had a long stretch where he was doing better as an indy guy than he would've done in WWE, but Chavo isn't Raven.
I can't see him headlining any Indy shows. He's not Matt Hardy, he's more like Justin Credible he gets his picture on the promotional poster but his an 'also featuring' guy.
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| #31 Posted on 26.6.11 2008.58 | Instant Rating: 4.56 | Originally posted by AlbySure Former WCW'ers left on the WWE roster:
- The Big Show (former WCW champion) - Goldust (injured) - Rey Mysterio - William Regal - Booker T (multiple time WCW champion. I always forget how many times exactly, though.) - Theodore Long - Triple H - Undertaker - Hugh Morrus (I dunno, is he still under contract post-Tough Enough?) - Charles Robinson - Scott Armstrong
Arn Anderson Jim Ross Steve Austin still works for WWE,. right? Dusty too I believe Norman Smiley, Ricky Steamboat and Steve Keirn are all agents. As is Billy Kidman, Dean Malenko and Jamie Noble. and Nash has a Legends contract
and Johnny Ace too, right?
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| #32 Posted on 28.6.11 0908.18 | Instant Rating: 5.39 | | Chavo beat Punk for ECW title. Clean. Three times in a row. He got waaaaay more than his solid-but-unspectacular talents warrented in the last few years. | dwaters
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| #33 Posted on 28.6.11 1019.12 | Instant Rating: 8.38 | The real big question:
What's to become of the Swagger Soarin' Eagle mascot?
Nobody will bring him to life like Chavo did! | JustinShapiro
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| #34 Posted on 28.6.11 1202.11 | Instant Rating: 9.11 | Originally posted by Amos Cochran Chavo beat Punk for ECW title. Clean. Three times in a row.
Now you know why Punk was so mad last night. He got cut off before he could get to the "agents said I was arrogant and didn't know how to work so they pushed for me to lose the belt to Jimmy Wang Yang's top rival." | Amos Cochran
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| #35 Posted on 29.6.11 0333.23 | Instant Rating: 5.39 | | Is that the actual story behind that decision? It seemed so bizarre at the time to have perennal jobber Chavo Guerrero come off of a drugs suspension and completely dominated the only guy on ECW who could've been considered a star. | JustinShapiro
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| #36 Posted on 1.7.11 1227.35 | Instant Rating: 9.11 | Originally posted by Amos Cochran Is that the actual story behind that decision? It seemed so bizarre at the time to have perennal jobber Chavo Guerrero come off of a drugs suspension and completely dominated the only guy on ECW who could've been considered a star.
P.much. The justification was they needed to heat up Chavo since he was part of the "top heel group" now, but it happened because there were people who wanted Punk to fail. This was the period of time when he was ECW champion but he was losing clean to Big Daddy V, wasn't allowed to beat MVP when they had a match on ECW TV, and worked even with Jamie Noble when he was a Smackdown jobber. | | Pages: Prev 1 2
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