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The Recap for WWE Raw 8/25/2014, live from Anaheim, CA.

We open with Lawler announcing that Cena's invoked his rematch clause for a title match at Night of Champions. Michael Cole is in the ring, introducing the dignitaries for the first-ever Hall of Fame Forum: Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, and Shawn Michaels. That's quite the panel. They're here to discuss Cena v Lesnar. Shawn thinks Cena's got no chance, and feels Cena should retire. Hogan thinks otherwise on the retirement front. Flair calls Cena "the franchise" but he still feels John has no chance. Hogan brings up the fact that Cena and Lesnar are tied 1-1 and this is the rubber match. Before Hogan can continue with his verbal fellatio, Cena interrupts to say that everyone has an opinion on Cena. Anaheim's opinion is quite negative. Cena acknowledges the beatdown at Summerslam but promises that he'll bring the fight to Brock Lesnar and beat his ass. 0 for 1. What a horrible start. This is essentially a collective Cena blowjob, put in place to make sure we haven't forgotten about him in the one week he wasn't on TV.

Match 1: Rusev (with Lana) v Jack Swagger (without Zeb Colter)
Cole's trying to coin "The Russian Superpower" as a nickname for Rusev. Lawler tries to sell Rusev hitting Colter in the head even though the shot from Summerslam clearly shows a shot to the shoulder. Swagger dumps Rusev outside with a back elbow and back inside he immediately grabs the Patriot Lock. Rusev scrambles to the ropes and takes a breather as JBL wants Swagger to leave the country should he lose tonight. Swagger is surprisingly dominant in the early going as Rusev is forced to take another powder. This time Swagger follows him out and nails an avalanche in the corner back inside. Swagger pummels away in the corner but charges once too many times, getting hung up in the ropes and and crushed as we head to a break.

We come back live with Rusev holding Swagger in a bearhug but he fights out quickly. Rusev puts a stop to his rally with a spinning heel kick (!) but stops to gloat and gets caught with a belly-to-belly suplex. Big boot puts Rusev down and Swagger grabs Patriot Lock right in the middle of the ring! Rusev looks to tap but then finds the testicular fortitude to stay alive and get to the ribs. Back outside they go, where Rusev repeatedly drives Swagger into the apron. Rusev wants to CRUSH but Swagger rolls him into the Patriot Lock instead. Swagger with a rollup for 2! Rusev recovers first and kicks away in the corner but he can barely stand. Rusev puts the badmouth on him and beats the hell out of him for the better part of the next several minutes. Big kick puts Swagger down and Rusev continues to kick at him and now the ref calls this thing off at 14 minutes. 0 for 2. Awful, awful ending to what was shaping to be fairly decent match. I'm convinced Rusev has no business losing to Swagger, but this is not the way to achieve that.

Backstage, Jack Swagger receives medical attention while Bo Dallas preaches to him the virtues of #BoLieving.

Match 2: Cesaro v Rob Van Dam
Winner gets Sheamus for the US title, and so Sheamus is on commentary. Cesaro takes the early advantage and then loses it quickly because he spends too long pointing at Sheamus. He gets back on track quickly enough with a big double stomp and grabs a chinlock. Cesaro runs himself into the corner and a split-legged moonsault gets 2 for Rob. Flying side kick sets up the Five-Star, but Cesaro wisely rolls away. Back inside, Cesaro catches him with the Neutralizer and that's it in 5 minutes. 0 for 3. Too short to be meaningful. Postmatch, Cesaro plays some "mind games" with Sheamus but peace prevails between them.

Starting next week, the first 100 hours of WCW Monday Nitro are availble on demand on the Network.

Match 3: Non-title: Paige v Natalya
Still no title shot for poor Nattie. By WWE logic, you normally get a title shot next week after beating the champ in a non-title match. Natalya gets a quick rollup but Paige blasts her with a forearm off a clean break. Ouch. Paige grabs an abdominal stretch but Nattie just steps around it and grabs her own abdominal stretch. Paige fights her off but runs into a running forearm and a HUGE release German drops Paige right on her head. Nattie grabs the Sharpshooter but Paige has enough left to get to the ropes. They fight over each others' legs but Paige gets the last laugh as the Paige Turner finishes in 3 minutes. 0 for 4. That match isn't much to write home about but I'd be interested in a longer match between those two. Postmatch, AJ Lee shows up to skip around the ring, and Paige falls for that shit again, this time getting hit with Nattie's discus clothesline. AJ helps her up and has some words for her "little English muffin." AJ knows Paige was being sincere when she professed her love for her, but AJ's EVEN MORE sincere. She gives Paige a heartfelt hug and a little kiss on her hand to prove it. Paige remains unconvinced. AJ's much better at insane than Paige.

Korporate Kane is out to conduct the eulogy for Dean Ambrose. Kane doesn't want tonight to be a mourning for the departed Ambrose, but a celebration for the future of the WWE, Seth Rollins. Rollins has some words - there was a reason he picked Ambrose to be in the most dominant group in WWE history. Dean was a courageous, fearless man, but Seth had to make an example out of him last week in a match that YOU, the WWE Universe, chose to be his demise. Seth wonders if Dean knew he was outmatched physically and mentally. What if Dean had known his place? What if Dean had recognized Seth's superiority? What if Dean had simply walked away? "What If" is the summary of Dean's career. As far as Seth is concerned, we might never see Ambrose again. And now, FINA-GODDAMNLY, Roman Reigns decides to give a damn about all this and heads out to exchange blows with Kane. Reigns sends him into the steps and bowls Seth over with the podium. Kane saves Rollins from the Spear, however. 0 for 5. Meandering promo, and nothing much after.

Elsewhere, Stardust and Goldust are excited about becoming Tag Champions tonight.

Match 4: Tag Team Titles: The Usos v Goldust and Stardust
Stardust starts with Jimmy but falls victim to some quick double teams. Jimmy gets confused by a curtsey of all things and falls outside, where the Dust brothers bust out stereo dives, and we head to a break. Back from the break, it's Stardust in control on Jimmy, but he comes back with an enzuigiri. Goldust comes in but runs into a crossbody for a double-KO. Jey comes to dominate Stardust off the tags and Goldust runs into a Samoan drop. Stardust is wiped out with a huge dive, but Jey tweaks his knee on the landing. Stardust makes it back inside, leaving Jey to be counted out in 8 minutes. 0 for 6. Looks like we're rolling out the whole gamut of terrible finishes today. Much of the match was during the break. Postmatch, an irate Goldust calls out the Usos for getting counted out on purpose, and now the Dust Brothers attack the Usos! Holy heel turn, Batman. Jimmy gets dumped, and Dust to Dust put the boots to Jey, though they don't do anything particularly nefarious to him or his injured knee. The crowd didn't particularly care, but they haven't cared about much of anything tonight.

Backstage, Rollins and Kane are fuming backstage over Roman Reigns, but Kane has a solution: Reigns v Rollins and Kane. Kane promises that the business with Reigns ends tonight.

The announcers throw it to a video package of Brock. Brock says he inflicted the correct amount of pain upon Cena. Brock and Paul Heyman can't believe that Cena would want a rematch. Brock promises that Night of Champions will be Cena's last night in this universe. 1 for 7. Given this promo and the one during the road to Summerslam, Brock has proven to be surprisingly effective at the pretaped promo. Kudos to the production team for putting together a top-notch video, as usual.

Match 5: Non-title: Dolph Ziggler v The Miz Damien Mizdow
Miz comes out to discuss one of the perks of being a Hollywood superstar - a stunt double. Tonight, Damien Mizdow will play the part of the Miz in this match. Mizdow takes too long to take off his shades and gets dropkicked as a result. Dolph gets hit with a back elbow but avoids a knee and nails a stinger splash in the corner. Mizdow stops further assault with a Figure-4 leglock but Dolph managed to turn it around. Mizdow makes the ropes but runs into the ZigZag to finish in 2 minutes. Miz's reaction to this on commentary: "he's fired." 1 for 8.

Jerry Lawler's in the ring to broker a reconciliation between the Bella twins, but first we must relive their atrocious segment from last week. Nikki's out first, and her deliberate distancing of the two chairs placed in the ring is a highlight for me. It all goes down from there as Brie comes out to remind Nikki of how they held hands even in the womb! Brie's in a reconciliatory mood and turns on the melodrama, but Nikki's not buying it. Nikki knows the real Brie, the one who's always wanted the spotlight. Nikki busts out her Rap Hand Movements again for her punchline, and she's over all this crap, including Brie's "troll-faced" husband. Nikki gets on her case for being a pathetic excuse of a human being and THEN mocks her for crying. Now that's a good heel. Eventually Nikki attacks Brie and slaps the taste of Lawler's mouth when he tries to intervene. 1 for 9. It's a lot better than last week's segment, and Nikki tries really hard. Brie's another story, though. The material is decent enough but it needs better players.

Match 6: Handicap Match: Roman Reigns v Kane and Seth Rollins
This is under tag rules so Reigns and Kane start and Reigns immediately dumps him outside and brings in Rollins. Roman controls in the corner with shoulder thrusts but Kane comes back and turns the tide. Rollins comes back to lay the boots to him and nails a pair of flying forearms to the corner. Rollins gets bieled all the way to the outside though and Reigns pummels away on Kane to set up his flying kick, but Rollins puts a stop to that. He pays for it with a back suplex on the apron and Kane gets his kick anyway. Kane stops the Superman Punch but gets hit with the Spear instead. Rollins breaks up the cover with the briefcase and gets disqualified in 3 minutes. Five matches, not one decent finish. 1 for 10. Postmatch, Seth and Kane put the boots to Reigns and reveal a new set of cinderblocks. Seth wants to put him through the cinderblocks, but Reigns fights them both off. Roman's thinking sweet revenge and TOSSES a cinderblock at Rollins' head but Seth avoids it as it explodes going into the post! He puts Kane down with a Superman Punch for good measure and stares Rollins down.

JBL in his postmatch rant insists that this was a no-DQ match, completely forgetting the DQ finish that occured not three minutes ago. That pretty much sums up tonight's show.

Bray Wyatt is backstage, insisting that John Cena's shell is cracked after an encounter with the Beast. Bray wants to bring the gift to mercy to John, and promises him it's much better on the other side.

Match 7: Los Matadores v Heath Slater and Titus O'Neil
Titus and Heath are "Slater and Gator" and they don't get along, and it's supposed to be funny, you see? Diego takes Slater down with a crossbody and Fernando comes in to snap off a hurricanrana. Diego nails him with a nice dropkick but gets distracted by Titus and taken down. Titus comes in with multiple backbreakers to show Heath how it's done. They fight over a tag but Slater recovers in time to stop a Matadores hot tag. Diego gets destroyed with a flying clothesline and Titus crushes him in the corner. Titus dominates Diego but he catches Slater with a crucifix for the win in 4 minutes. 2 for 11. Call me crazy, but I find that perversely entertaining.

Match 8: Kofi Kingston v Bo Dallas
I imagine that's the end of the whole Nation of Domination version 2.0 stable. Kofi snaps off a highrise dropkick and nails a splash in the corner but Bo cuts him off with a big knee. Kofi beats him up in the corner, but Bo trips him up as he goes for a split-legged moonsault. Their combined willpower saves an ungainly botch on the Bodog and that finishes in 2 minutes. 2 for 12. Bo stops to tell Kofi to #BoLieve while dissing Swagger but now Jack comes in to hit him with a belly-to-belly suplex.

Match 9: John Cena v Bray Wyatt
Cena doesn't show any lingering effects from his match at Summerslam. Bray appears at his jump cut, getting no music. Cena pummels away in the corner and nails him with a clothesline and a German suplex. Cole's blowing his lungs about how that's a message to Lesnar. Oh my god, we get it, you fucking imbecile. Back suplex and his release fisherman's suplex get two for Cena. Bray tries to fight back but Cena snuffs that out quickly. Cena with a knee to the head and Mike Chioda has to pull him away out of the corner. Another German! Really? You feed Wyatt to him?! This is what you have Titus O'Neil on the roster for. Bray fights off another German but Cena takes him down again. And now Harper and Rowan have had enough and put the boots to Cena to get this match thrown out at 5 minutes.

But wait, now Big Show and Mark Henry are out to make the save, slowly. They clear the heels from the ring as we go to a break. Also, the word is "cavalry" and not "calvary," Maggle. Of course we come back to...
Match 10: Six-Man Tag: The Wyatt Family v Big Show, Mark Henry, and John Cena
Show dominates Rowan in the corner and slaps the skin off his chest, which somehow the crowd cheers louder than pretty much anything else tonight. Rowan takes Henry down with a boot and clothesline for 2, however. Bray Wyatt takes out his rage on Mark Henry, and Harper comes in to WALK on Mark. Harper grabs a chinlock and the crowd suddenly comes to life with a "Sexual chocolate" chant. Rowan with a slam on Henry! That's sure to make CRZ happy. Harper pummels on Mark Henry in the corner until he dips in the well once too many times and gets bowled over. Show comes in off the tag and runs the house until Harper takes him out with a dropkick! Wyatt gets two on Show off a Rowan big boot and they control Big Show with some great teamwork. Superkick by Harper gets 2. Bray spends too long pushing Big Show around, so he gets chokeslammed for his troubles as Cena comes in off the hot tag. Cena cleans house and taps Harper out to his shitty STF in 7 minutes. AAs for everyone! If his move had any impact, it would be impressive, but I guess we can't have everything. 2 for 13. A fittingly bad end to a downright terrible show. I think Harper and Rowan were the best things about this show.

Wrestling Counter: 51 minutes.

An utter waste of a show, the complete antithesis of what we saw last week. Completely forgettable in almost every way, expect for the aggressively offensive shoving of Cena down everyone's collective throat. The dead crowd didn't help either.

(edited by used2bcool on 27.8.14 1137)

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Do I really have to watch Hulk Cena mow through The Dungeon of Wyatts to get to that big nasty stinky Brock the Giant?


I think the only thing I liked about this show was wondering who would do better for themselves in TNA Slater or Titus.

I really hated this show tonight. I don't know what else to say. I don't get it.

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I've seen better acting in porn than that acting in the Bella's segment... Much better. So Cena is no worse for wear after taking the beating of a lifetime just eight days ago and is more of a superman than ever and got fed the Wyatts. Poor Bray was so hot just six months ago and is now dead in the water. Crowd was dead all night and who can blame them as it was a brutal show. The only highlight was Brock's sit down UFC style promo. He is really good at those.

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Cena getting mid-00s HHH overcompensation treatment (killing everyone while not selling the loss in any way) was not too fun, but more concerning is how Cole/WWE are setting up Night of Champions. It should be "how can Cena possibly win after SummerSlam", but tonight it was "a match Cena absolutely must win!" and Cena always wins those.

It feels like there's 50% chance of the Brock->Reigns (WM) plan still happening, 50% chance of Brock->Cena->Rollins cash in (after losing to Roman earlier in the night)->Reigns (WM) and 100% of WWE changing their minds about which way they're going a couple times before now and Night of Champions.

Kofi's not even getting an entrance, and Big E and Xavier Woods aren't even getting on TV. Maybe if those guys got together in a - naaaaaaaaaaah. (At least Kofi and Big E can return to their old roles while everyone pretends that didn't happen. Xavier doesn't have an old role.)



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Fucking WWE ... I take a week off, they put on a great show, I come back and they vomit this shit up on my plate. A giant Super Cena blowjob. I get that they've built Lesnar up to the point where nobody really believes that Cena has a snowball's chance in Hell, but going balls-out Super Cena and having him destroy all three Wyatts is just bullshit.

About the only thing that can be said is that the show sucked so hard that Steph and HHH didn't even bother to show up, so I didn't have to put up with Mrs. Shrill. The Bellas might be even worse, though.

They even did Paige/Natalya for the 3rd time in as many shows, and after their pretty awesome match on Smackdown this was a definite disappointment, even if the AJ stuff afterwards was entertaining. I'm wondering which of the two is trying to play the crazy lesbian mindgames; AJ seems to be a lot better at them, anyway.

On the upside, Roman finally remembered that Ambrose is supposed to be his best friend and it looks like he'll be feuding with Rollins while Ambrose is away. Not sure what happened to Orton, maybe he was humbled enough by Reigns' beatdown on SD! that he decided to take the night off.

I'd refuse to watch next week but knowing WWE they're just waiting for the next time I fail to tune in to suddenly reveal the GOOD writing team they mostly keep in a cage and feed dog bones to.

BTW, used2bcool, I hate to nitpick but you had two 0 for 3s. The final score should be 2 for 13, not 12.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.80
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    Kofi's not even getting an entrance, and Big E and Xavier Woods aren't even getting on TV. Maybe if those guys got together in a - naaaaaaaaaaah. (At least Kofi and Big E can return to their old roles while everyone pretends that didn't happen. Xavier doesn't have an old role.)


Any chance that the Ferguson Riots killed that angle dead?
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BRUTAL.
That's the only word that can describe 90% of this show.

Bella's get mic time? WHY? This angle sucks, the payoff will suck, the match between them will suck. The only thing that redeemed that segment was Nikki's buttocks nearly popping out.

Cena's promo with the "legends" is what they need to have him do. Nothing else. No more kill everybody on the show, no more run through and slow other's pushes. Just promo until the rematch.

Did JBL admit to having a hair piece? I was half asleep, and thought I heard that.

RIP Fake Cinder Block. At least you held up longer than the one the NWO used.

If the WWE wonders why they aren't getting my $9.99 anymore, it's because of awful shit like this.
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The timing would seem to lead to that. Hard to say though if that was the case. It is too bad though, I was looking forward to Kofi with RUUUUUUUUUUUUTHLESSSSSSS AGGGGGGGGREEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSION!



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It was dropped on TV before the riots, though it's come back on house shows since then. It would be difficult to do properly in the current climate, but starting a story about characters feeling disadvantaged and then actually minimizing them on TV in hopes people forgot about what they said is not a great way to run with either. (Unless Xavier shows up one of these weeks pointing out how right he was all along, I guess.) They needed to find a way out of it, not just pretend it didn't happen.

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So with Reigns moving on to Rollins and Orton on Jericho's show next week possibly starting off a feud between the two that leads to Jericho's departure where does that leave Bray? Meltzer on the law suggested that whoever Cena's feuding with next will cost him the match against Brock. That could always change of course.
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I don't have any problems with the way Cena was handled tonight. He didn't do a stretcher job at SummerSlam. He got his ass kicked. There's a huge difference between the two.

At SummerSlam, he wasn't bleeding from the mouth, he wasn't carried out, he just overwhelmingly got beat in a wrestling match. What happened to Dean Ambrose last week was the sort of thing you take multiple weeks off for. Cena just lost a match.

Going along with that, if your goal is to sell WWE Network subscriptions or PPV buyrates, and your main event is a rematch of the lopsided title match at SummerSlam, you want it to be clear that Cena still stands a chance. If Cena is booked to look weak leading up to the PPV, then you're not really selling a competitive main event that people will want to see.

You have to believe that Cena can stand toe-to-toe with Brock and a huge part of that is building him back up in the ring.


I do, however, have problems with using Bray Wyatt to make Cena look strong again. Looks like Randy Orton wasn't in the arena tonight, so that limited the credible opponents for Cena to face. You can't have Cena vs Titus O'Neal headline RAW. I suppose Cena vs Kane could have worked, and they're probably saving Cena vs Rollins. At least they had the decency to make it a DQ finish and then have Harper, the tag wrestler, take the fall in the 6-man.

    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    It feels like there's 50% chance of the Brock->Reigns (WM) plan still happening, 50% chance of Brock->Cena->Rollins cash in (after losing to Roman earlier in the night)->Reigns (WM) and 100% of WWE changing their minds about which way they're going a couple times before now and Night of Champions.


I hope there's still a chance it could change. Still not sold on Reigns, but didn't mind what happened tonight. The cool Dean Ambrose portrait was the best thing in that segment. At least Reigns finally acknowledged his friendship with him tonight. Seemed to help the crowd care about him more, too.

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.67
    Originally posted by Blind_Guardian
    BTW, used2bcool, I hate to nitpick but you had two 0 for 3s. The final score should be 2 for 13, not 12.


Fixed. Fitting that this show managed to find a way to get worse after it's over.

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    I do, however, have problems with using Bray Wyatt to make Cena look strong again. Looks like Randy Orton wasn't in the arena tonight, so that limited the credible opponents for Cena to face. You can't have Cena vs Titus O'Neal headline RAW.


Yeah, fair enough. Titus is probably an exaggeration on my part. You're right, Kane might've worked, and so could've one of the lesser Wyatts (as much as I love Harper and Rowan). It gives him an opponent physically bigger than him, you still have the looming threat of The Numbers Game (tm Michael Cole), and you can still have the same ending with the three AAs, skipping the 6-man tag match entirely. Hell, feed him Rowan (or Harper) for ten minutes, then have him do the extended post-match beating on all three of them and have the good guys on the roster come down and pull him off just as he's about to do something particularly violent.

Did Mark Henry forget about Rusev during the last seven days?

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    Originally posted by used2bcool
    This is essentially a collective Cena blowjob


2 of the 3 declaring he has absolutely no shot to beat Brock, with the 3rd saying he at least has a shot based off their 1st match if Brock lets his guard down, is a "collective blowjob"?

Gotta agree w/ everything Sklokazoid said.

Also enjoyed the Nikki/Brie segment. Great campy fun. I mean, c'mon, "I wish you died in the womb!"? That's great stuff. (Apologies to anyone who experienced that in real life, which is of course horribly horribly tragic & sad. I wonder if they'll catch any heat for that?) I've liked the Bellas since NXT3, so I'm all in on this storyline.



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    Originally posted by used2bcool
    Yeah, fair enough. Titus is probably an exaggeration on my part. You're right, Kane might've worked, and so could've one of the lesser Wyatts (as much as I love Harper and Rowan).


Didn't mean to pick on you. Obviously, Titus was an extreme example and yeah, the whole thing would have been better if they just straight up did Cena vs Harper, which could have been great.

Harper and Rowan are looked at as tag wrestlers, so they don't have to succeed in singles matches. It'd be like Shawn Michaels jobbing to "Macho King" Randy Savage when he was in the Rockers. Wouldn't really effect his future as a singles wrestler.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.67
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      Originally posted by used2bcool
      This is essentially a collective Cena blowjob


    2 of the 3 declaring he has absolutely no shot to beat Brock, with the 3rd saying he at least has a shot based off their 1st match if Brock lets his guard down, is a "collective blowjob"?

I think my ire has more to do with the existence of that segment than what they said. A panel of three of the greatest in the business to discuss John Cena? No. I'll defend Cena more than most, but SuperCena is a bridge too far. It just left a bad taste in the mouth and set the tone for the rest of the show.

    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Also enjoyed the Nikki/Brie segment. Great campy fun. I mean, c'mon, "I wish you died in the womb!"? That's great stuff. (Apologies to anyone who experienced that in real life, which is of course horribly horribly tragic & sad. I wonder if they'll catch any heat for that?) I've liked the Bellas since NXT3, so I'm all in on this storyline.


I didn't mind the material, but by god Brie Bella's "acting" is cringeworthy. I think I agree with Graves that there's better acting in porn than what they did out there. Nikki tries, though, I'll give her that.



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Nah, the Bellas rule, homeys. You're #prejudiced. I had low expectations but IMO their cadence has been above the line in transmitting some truly wacky content. If SASHA BANKS or whoever showed half of Nikki's cruel conviction, people would be like "heck yeah, I'd like to see those ne'er-do-well Total Divas pull that off." OTOH Brie is, uh, gunning for Daniel Bryan's record of consecutive shows getting laid out. Poor Brie. Fire up, Brie! Fire up.

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CESARO LIVES. I would take the dumb U.S. title as a consolation prize for the promise of what was, but even just getting back into a real program is a major relief after that miserable month.

Could it be that Roman Reigns just saw the Shield documentary on the Network and was like "ohhhh yeah, that did happen."

Damien Sandow is really talented at mimicry, putting Charlie Haas to shame. He basically did that thing in the video game where you can give someone else a guy's entrance and moves. He was doing Miz's windmill punches! Keep the Miz Scholars together plzzzzzz, make Sandow the new A-Ri.

We've made a terrible miscalculation. SummerSlam ... it ... it's only made John Cena more powerful.

(edited by JustinShapiro on 26.8.14 0053)
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.33
    Originally posted by used2bcool
    JBL in his postmatch rant insists that this was a no-DQ match, completely forgetting the DQ finish that occured not three minutes ago. That pretty much sums up tonight's show.


In defense of JBL, he was on the money with his statement. He was playing up the heel announcer hypocrisy as heel announcers should. He went on a rant about how Roman Reigns had endangered Seth's life with the cinderblock, and possibly King's too or the fans or anyone else who might have been hit. He wanted to know what kind of person Roman Reigns was to commit a heinous act like that. When Cole called him on it and reminded him of what Rollins and Kane had done to Ambrose last week, that's when JBL said "Well, that was a no-DQ match", as if suddenly that justifies everything they did.

Cole and King need to call JBL on those things more often, like Gorilla and JR would with their respective partners. But then, Cole also needs to acknowledge heelish acts as heelish acts rather than saying "Well, it's a smart move" and defending shortcuts when they're taken. The commentary needs a lot of work.

And yeah, the show was pretty bad this week.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.33
It may be my intense dislike of Super Cena and his antics, but I personally found the most annoying part of the 'Legends panel' skit to be Cena telling Hogan, the only one who was saying that the guy had a chance, to "Look at me when I'm talking to you." Instead of coming off like a tweener, heelish version of Cena, we just got Super Cena who happens to be more of a dick than usual. The 'Cena sucks' chants were pretty hardcore when he interrupted the panel ... the same could be said for the rest of the show, too. No wonder the crowd was so dead, I'd have been sitting on my hands too if I'd actually paid to see a show this Gods-awful.

Oh yeah, and JBL was extra intolerable this week to go along with everything else, to the point where I just muted a couple of matches so I wouldn't have to listen to him. I do find it a little odd that even though he automatically loves anyone who's a heel, he still despises Rusev. He passes it off as hatred for Swagger for losing to him(which for once I can agree with him on), but it still seems odd that Rusev is the one heel that even JBL can't bring himself to cheer for.

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
    Originally posted by texasranger9
      Originally posted by thecubsfan
      Kofi's not even getting an entrance, and Big E and Xavier Woods aren't even getting on TV. Maybe if those guys got together in a - naaaaaaaaaaah. (At least Kofi and Big E can return to their old roles while everyone pretends that didn't happen. Xavier doesn't have an old role.)


    Any chance that the Ferguson Riots killed that angle dead?


Given that the WWE's response to MH17 and the death of ~300 people was to have Lana explicitly mention it in a promo I'm pretty sure the WWE would be more than happy to reference Ferguson if they wanted to. They just don't give a shit.

RAW was painful. I can't believe how they just keep systematically murdering Bray Wyatt every time he gets a speck of momentum. Rephrase: I cannot believe how they keep systematically murdering almost everyone who gets over while finding a billion ways to push Jack Swagger.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
Well congrats, guys. With the amount of times the words "John", "Cena", and "blowjob" have appeared we may just attract a few new members who searched just those terms.

This show established that Cena, and no one else, was the only one who had a chance of beating Brock at Night of Champions. That's kind of what one wants from a logical standpoint, and it has instilled that Cena/Lesnar could sort of be up in the air. I mean, why would they kill every Cena paradigm unless they finally pulled the trigger on a heel turn, and the only guy a Cena heel turn would actually work to getting Cena booed still by the people who already do is...

...rarer than Brock Lesnar. Sheesh.

The rest of the show was alright. Roman Reigns is getting better now that Orton was absent. Hopefully this all leads to Reigns/Ambrose vs. Rollins/Kane. How illogical yet awesome would it be if Rollins cashed in the case after reuniting the Shield? Eh, it's probably a little more like the relationship between Henry and Rusev. Lets get heat! Nevermind!

Jack Swagger is the scowling type. What Bo Dallas doesn't understand is his words mean, oh, we'll guess Heath Slater this time, will be shelved after Swagger injures him. Why not push Swagger, though? Have HIM face Brock! I'm not saying it'd be pretty, but two former NCAA Heavyweight Champions competing in a sport that the Olympics temporarily banned could sell a ticket or two. Or not. I doubt anybody's looking up Jack Swagger porn.



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