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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
With visual aides, Dolph gave the exact same speech about John Cena's crappy 2012 that Punk gave to Flair at the Slammys, with extra note that Cena hasn't changed his look or his personality in ten years. (Really, more like since 2005.)




Cena's exclusive wedding photo of Dolph, AJ, and Big E in wedding attire was pretty funny, topped by Dolph: "Not real! It's not real!"

Champion's Choice was basically every single champion including Team Hell No acting like a big puss and taking the easy matches. Well, Hell No did want The Shield and settled for 3MB. Meanwhile, Kofi was the only guy who took on his number one contender because he was goaded into it and what happens? Wade Barrett takes the Intercontinental Title from him. Lesson: When it's Champion's Choice, be a big puss.

Performer of the night: Ricardo Rodriguez, who always shows honor, according to his weirdly babyface boss. Ricardo's step up enzuigiri on Big Show deserves Slammy consideration.

Fwiends of the night: Miz and John Cena. First Orton, then Sheamus, now Miz. No one makes enemies into fwiends like John Cena. Maybe next year Cena and Dolph will be riding high as new BFFs.

But nothing tops Paul Heyman leaning into Vickie as if expecting a New Year's Eve kiss.

In conclusion, a special Django Unchained-related AJ tweet:




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Could champions choice be a bigger ripoff of Open fight night? Between that the Aj-Cena storyline from a few months ago and the previously on Raw opening someone on the Raw creative is watching a lot of TNA and seems to like lifting their concepts. Pretty weird to see The WWE rip off TNA when TNA for years and years ripped off the WWE. Now that Cena is bffs with Miz I expect him to hug it out with old enemies like ADR and Kane next. With the MIz and ADR face turns you gotta figure Orton will be turning heel soon enough.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by graves9
    Could champions choice be a bigger ripoff of Open fight night?


No, because it wasn't. WWE has done champions pick their opponents before.



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The fact that WWE ended their 2012 year with shit in the ring is either very ironic or self aware.



The Wee Baby Sheamus.Twitter: @realjoecarfley its a bit more toned down there. A bit.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.11
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by graves9
      Could champions choice be a bigger ripoff of Open fight night?


    No, because it wasn't. WWE has done champions pick their opponents before.
Wait wait open fight night which started six months ago is where you call out champion vs this concept where champions call wrestlers out that pretty close and Meltzer the other day was saying what a rip off it was. Next you are gonna say that the AJ-Cena storyline wasn't a take off on the Claire Lynch nonsense?
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FWIW Meltzer has mentioned that the WWE has a guy on the creative staff that monitors TNA and ROH programming, and reports back on it, and according to Meltzer, Vince felt the WWE could do a better job with a couple of their concepts, and that's why many feel the WWE have ripped off a few TNA ideas. I was one of the people that thought I was watching open fight night on Thursday last night. Hey as long as they don't lift from Extreme Rising and make someone like Stevie Richards champion I won't complain too much.

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    Originally posted by Brian
    ...according to Meltzer, Vince felt the WWE could do a better job with a couple of their concepts...
OK, TNA watchers who also watched this show - DID they do a better job?

For what it's worth, I kinda dug the gimmick last night and wondered aloud on Twitter why they didn't think to hype it ahead of time as it seemed like a concept worthy of advertising which might bring in some eyeballs.* Perhaps they didn't hype it precisely because it was a ripoff. (And I'm not saying it was or wasn't, as obviously I haven't been watching Impact.)

*assuming that's even possible in 2012/2013 anymore - and I'm not sure that it is



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.04
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by Brian
      ...according to Meltzer, Vince felt the WWE could do a better job with a couple of their concepts...
    OK, TNA watchers who also watched this show - DID they do a better job?


I brushed through most of this show on DVR, but there are several aspects of this concept that still need to be worked out. Punk having Vickie book The Shield on his behalf for Ryback still reeks of the "Evil GM books top face in handicap match" trope that's been done TO DEATH. And, in general, the heels generally book themselves against weaker opposition, which is going to get old quickly. Contrast this with TNA, who generally have babyfaces dish out the Open Fight Night challenges, which lead to some interesting feud progressions (Samoa Joe/Aces & Eights) or intriguing face/face matches (RVD/York).

I'm not saying The E can't pull this off, but their approach needs to be refined.



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Mae Young giving birth to Hornswoggle?!?!

I'm liking Del Rio as a face. Much as I'm liking Miz as a face.

The Shield never ceases to impress.



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So I guess WWE did "rip off" Open Fight Night. But it seems like they did their stuff more for comedy. So it was really more like Open Mike Night, especially in Eve's case where there was no match at all.



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Cena actually referenced Ziggler's past. First he was a caddy. Then he was a cheerleader.

And he got dumped on with poop again.
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Ambrose eating the RKO and getting dragged out by his ankle just about killed me. That was marvelous selling.



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