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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Bryan mocked David Otunga's It Factor: "The truth is he can't wrestle"...


...said the man who can't win a match.

Daniel Bryan is not impressing me at all. I don't see what the big deal is with him.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
    Originally posted by Cerebus
      Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Bryan mocked David Otunga's It Factor: "The truth is he can't wrestle"...


    ...said the man who can't win a match.

    Daniel Bryan is not impressing me at all. I don't see what the big deal is with him.


Okay, Michael Cole. I'm sure you're aware winners and losers are predetermined. In between the ring entrances and the predetermined finishes is the "wrestling" portion of the match. Bryan is good at wrestling. Otunga, not so much.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.42
Read it and weep, fella


    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Daniel Bryan is not impressing me at all. I don't see what the big deal is with him.
On the indy scene, he was one of those flippy-floppy, spot-fest, lucha-type wrestlers. I saw him wrestle a couple times in 2002-ish. He doesnt seem to do much of that in WWE.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.45
I know I am going to get stoned for this, but its true, wins and loses count in wrestling. If you can't win one match out of what 5 or 6 now, you are a jobber at least in the eyes of the fans. It also means more if you are a new comer that is why 85% of the time most of the new guys get feed lower level or mid card level guys when they are introduced. You can't build a wrestler up with no foundation and part of that foundation is winning. I am sure he will beat Miz for the US title on Smackdown or a PPV then most of the stench of his debut will be gone.

Yet, I think WWE realized that they can't do cuts now, because the fans would be say "Hey, why not cut the 0 for forever wrestler instead of the guy that has at least a win." Maybe in three months time, this will all be mute, but as of now ie today, the WWE is screwing up with him. I also don't like Daniel saying Otunga can't wrestle since Otunga has a win over him. Its just stupid booking to make the so-called hero of the show look like a bitch.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I know I am going to get stoned for this, but its true, wins and loses count in wrestling. If you can't win one match out of what 5 or 6 now, you are a jobber at least in the eyes of the fans.


I agree wins and losses do matter in terms of how wrestlers are perceived by fans and how they're positioned on the shows. But the point was Daniel Bryan hasn't won a match because he hasn't been allowed to win a match. He has no say on whether he wins a match or not; he does what he's told. So using Bryan's won-loss record against him here as evidence he can't wrestle well makes no sense. We all know better. 'Cause we're all SO smart.

I also agree the booking of NXT overall has been deeply flawed.

(edited by John Orquiola on 1.4.10 1332)


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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.69
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    What are you missing? Wade Barrett is majestic! He's like an eagle! He's most definitely the tallest of the NXT guys.

    Barrett is also the brightest of the NXT guys, besides Daniel Bryan, judging by their Twitters. Barrett writes the most interesting blogs and has a personality NXT hasn't let him show yet.


It's kind of ironic that WWE put one of the guys with enough personality to get himself over together with Jericho, who could've gotten anyone over.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by John Orquiola
      What are you missing? Wade Barrett is majestic! He's like an eagle! He's most definitely the tallest of the NXT guys.

      Barrett is also the brightest of the NXT guys, besides Daniel Bryan, judging by their Twitters. Barrett writes the most interesting blogs and has a personality NXT hasn't let him show yet.


    It's kind of ironic that WWE put one of the guys with enough personality to get himself over together with Jericho, who could've gotten anyone over.


Wade Barrett's brand new WWE Universe blog (URL shortened for convenience):

http://bit.ly/awXk16

He's a very intelligent, money-loving man.



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by Cerebus
      Daniel Bryan is not impressing me at all. I don't see what the big deal is with him.
    On the indy scene, he was one of those flippy-floppy, spot-fest, lucha-type wrestlers. I saw him wrestle a couple times in 2002-ish. He doesnt seem to do much of that in WWE.


He changed a lot from the flippy-floppy style since 2002.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.22
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by lotjx
      I know I am going to get stoned for this, but its true, wins and loses count in wrestling. If you can't win one match out of what 5 or 6 now, you are a jobber at least in the eyes of the fans.


    I agree wins and losses do matter in terms of how wrestlers are perceived by fans and how they're positioned on the shows. But the point was Daniel Bryan hasn't won a match because he hasn't been allowed to win a match. He has no say on whether he wins a match or not; he does what he's told. So using Bryan's won-loss record against him here as evidence he can't wrestle well makes no sense. We all know better. 'Cause we're all SO smart.

    I also agree the booking of NXT overall has been deeply flawed.

    (edited by John Orquiola on 1.4.10 1332)


They also seem to be booking Danielson "to lose," by putting him vs the World Champ or Khali and so on.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.52
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by Cerebus
      Daniel Bryan is not impressing me at all. I don't see what the big deal is with him.
    On the indy scene, he was one of those flippy-floppy, spot-fest, lucha-type wrestlers.


He wrestles more like an All Japan main eventer than an indy luchador.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.86
Sing this special song. It's just for you.
Not verbatim but still:
"You're lucky Matthews and his one match of experience is sitting between us. That's the only reason I won't go after you Cole, he might try to shoot on me-- poorly."

Who cares if the contest makes no sense if Jericho gets 15 minutes of mic time every week.



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