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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.94
Elimination Chamber Match for the WWE Championship

Triple H d. Edge (C), The Undertaker, Vladimir Kozlov, The Big Show and Jeff Hardy to become a 13-time world champion (8x WWE Champion; 5x World Heavyweight Champion)

1. Hardy pinned Edge with a small package
2. Undertaker pinned Kozlov after the Last Ride
3. Triple H pinned Big Show after an Undertaker superplex, Triple H Pedigree and Hardy Swanton Bomb from the top of a pod
4. Undertaker pinned Hardy after the Tombstone Piledriver
5. Triple H pinned Undertaker after the Pedigree

No Holds Barred Match

Randy Orton d. Shane McMahon

ECW World Championship Match

Jack Swagger (C) d. Finlay

Grudge Match

Shawn Michaels d. JBL; Michaels is free from JBL's employ

Elimination Chamber Match for World Heavyweight Championship

Edge d. John Cena (C), Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Mike Knox and Kane to become an eight-time world champion (4x World Heavyweight; 4x WWE Champion)

[Edge punked out Kofi Kingston before the match and took his spot. Gee, if I knew it was that easy, I would've done it myself!]

1. Mysterio pinned Kane after a seated senton from the top of a pod
2. Jericho pinned Knox after the Codebreaker
3. Edge pinned Cena (!) after a Codebreaker from Jericho, 619 from Mysterio and Spear from Edge
4. Mysterio pinned Jericho
5. Edge pinned Mysterio after the Spear



I'm just getting these results from online; I didn't see the show. Apparently there was no Matt Hardy or Christian interference in any of the matches.

So, um, wow. One would assume this means Edge is returning to RAW, right? Unless the title changes hands again tomorrow night. I'm also stunned that Cena was the third man in that match to be eliminated; he was outlasted by Jericho and Mysterio as well as the eventual winner.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.23
About time...thanks Ekedolphin. I was about ready to click and post when I felt a disturbance in the force.

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Winners:

HHH Wins Smackdown EC Match ***NEW CHAMPION***
Orton d. Shane O Mac
Swagger defended against Finlay.
HBK d. JBL
Edge Wins Raw EC Match ***NEW CHAMPION***

The Ultimate opportunist moniker is still thriving.

So, does HBK and JBL carry over to mania?

Does does this really avenge Vince?

Which way is Orton going? Past history with both HHH and Edge?

I remember when No Way Out used be a filler PPV. The WWE has sort of turned into an unexpected shake up PPV. That wasn't a bad show. That packed that sucker like and Ice Cream sandwich. To pieces of chocolate on the to top and bottom with cream in the middle.




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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.20
I really liked this show. People who were complaining that it would be too predictable should be happy. I definitely appreciate the surprises, even if EDGE STOLE THE BELT! is getting a bit ridiculous at this point. As are Edge's one-month title reigns and all the world title changes (nine since September?). But the first Chamber was excellent once they got rid of Kozlov, and the second one was really good too with the "hey whoa" moment of Cena going out early and Rey and Edge doing nearfalls at the end that made it seem like Rey Mysterio was going to inexplicably win the world title.

Shane's onslaught in his match was silly but not unexpected. Match was pretty good if you can get past that. Shawn/JBL was real disappointing, OTOH. JBL should've made Shawn have to beat the Undertaker at Wrestlemania to win his freedom.

It's weird to have so much of the WM card pretty much set as soon as No Way Out is over:
HHH vs. Orton
Cena vs. Edge
Michaels vs. Undertaker
Jericho vs. Rourke/Flair
Jeff vs. Matt
Christian vs. Swagger

HHH/Orton and Cena/Edge are not exactly the most untapped matches for Wrestlemania, although I guess Cena/Edge haven't feuded since 2006 except for wrestling on every 3 hour Raw.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
Vladimir Kozlov needs to be kept out of main events. Or televised matches, whatever works.

Any chance that we're getting rid of the 'two champions' thing and having a unified title match at WM25? Orton vs. Edge vs. Triple H to decide one champion who can defend on any brand.

This leaves Cena without an opponent, but hey, since it is the "25th" anniversary of Wrestlemania, why not do a shoutout to the main event of the original Wrestlemania by pitting the tag team of the top face (Hogan/Cena) and the movie star (Mr. T/Rourke) against the dastardly heel (Piper/Jericho) and his flunky (Orndorff/....uh....Regal? It would give Cena some publicity as his movie is opening up.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.56
Is Michaels/Undertaker set in stone? What's going to be the storyline for that? I don't get it. UT/Kozlov seems more likely with Michaels participating in a money in the bank match. I also think it's likely HHH goes to Raw to face Orton and Edge brings the title back to Smackdown to face...Big Show.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.66
    Originally posted by The King of Keith
    Is Michaels/Undertaker set in stone? What's going to be the storyline for that? I don't get it. UT/Kozlov seems more likely with Michaels participating in a money in the bank match. I also think it's likely HHH goes to Raw to face Orton and Edge brings the title back to Smackdown to face...Big Show.


Interesting possibility. I'm sure Vickie wouldn't want her Edge being on a different show, so perhaps she and Stephanie will work out a champions trade.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.98
If I may make a Lost analogy, Edge is the Desmond of WWE. Edge is so very special. The rules don't apply to him. And as far as I'm concerned, because I love the guy, he can shockingly steal as many World Titles as he damn well pleases. I'll pop for it every single time. And I love the extra fringe benefit of Edge being on RAW for the next six weeks. Until the Draft reshuffles the roster.

I loved the show. Wall to wall wrestling. Both Chambers delivered (except for that Mike Knox segment in the RAW chamber). The disposal of John Cena made me so happy.

I thought the HBK match was disappointing too and if I want to nitpick then *technically* Michaels should have been disqualified when Rebecca hit JBL and lost. Instead, he had the miraculous comeback, hit his three moves of doom and BOOM!, everyone's most hated storyline is over. But whatever.

Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels is all but set in stone. Teased at Royal Rumble 2007, teased again at Royal Rumble 2009 in a brief backstage promo, and can be easily set up with a promo or two in the coming weeks. On tomorrow's RAW, even.

I have to admit, though, based on my comments in the previous thread, I clearly know nothing. I had to see the Orton vs. Triple H thing set up with my own eyes and didn't believe the theory going in. I expected Stephanie to reveal herself as in cahoots with Orton tonight, but no. Still, Shane didn't get it done so now it really will be Triple H to defend his WWE Title (the belt Orton really wants as it's the one he held last and best) and the McMahon honor alongside it. I call cahoots at WrestleMania where Steph turns on her non-storyline husband and aligns herself with Orton in the end.

Shapiro seems to have the WrestleMania card that is in all likelihood going to happen. If that's the show I'm seeing live in Houston, that's A-OK with me.
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I hope I'm right. Remember when Edge wrestled Cena all year in 2006? We've been there and done that. Edge v. Big Show is new and different. I like that. I think feuds at WM should be new and unique. That way, you can get two or three rematches out of them for the following PPV's. If I have to sit through 3 or 4 months of Randy/HHH and Edge/Cena I'm going to start watching something else or leaving before the main events. Edge/Show would be interesting at least. Edge works well with everyone.

I think Edge stays on Smackdown, Stef calls HHH over to Raw. Vlad is pissed at UT for eliminating him tonight, so the unbeaten Russian wrestles the unbeaten at WM Undertaker. HBK might even rematch JBL with some stipulation (if JBL loses, he works for HBK?).



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.20
Shawn vs. Undertaker seems like a certainty because it seems like the only reason to get JBL/Shawn out of the way now. And Shawn and Taker bumped into each other at the Rumble, which happened for a reason. In another year, Kozlov and Umaga would be natural streak-padders, but not this one. Hopefully Kozlov is not on the show at all.

They have spent a lot of time on Show/Edge, but that's just not a Wrestlemania title match to me. I think they got Cena out of tonight's match without him and Edge really working with each other instead of them being the last two in it to preserve them not having really fought one another. Plus Cena and Edge have had great matches before, and Show and Edge would be okay at best.

I thought about getting Cena out of the title picture so he could be in the celebrity match, but I don't know if being linked with a 50-year-old actor really enhances Cena. Oscar nom or not, Mickey Rourke isn't exactly Mike Tyson or Donald Trump. My dream scenario is that Jericho's stuff with Flair disparaging the Hall of Famers sets up him against Steve Austin.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.93
Just like Show/Edge doesn't feel like a Wrestlemania match, I can't buy JBL/Michales at Wrestlemania. There's just not enough wrestling quality there to watch it, no matter how hard JBL and his awesome promos try to convince me otherwise. Michales needs an opponent whom he can pull four stars out of, and JBL is not that man. At least not nowadays. A few years ago, he and Michaels could've gone out and had a bloody, no-holds-barred wild brawl and been more than watchable. With the WWE's new family-friendly doctrine, that seems highly unlikely.

I like to buy into the theory that JBL can make a really unconventional addition to the Money in the Bank match.

So that leaves us with Taker/Shawn at Mania. Now there's a match worth looking at. The thing I'm baffled at is how to go about a such a huge face/face match. Maybe Shawn goes back to his heel roots and says that he wants a proper opponent to steal the show at WM and attacks Taker randomly on SD. I can't see the fans turn on Taker at all, so unless they DO wanna go the face/face way, they have to turn Shawn heel.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.65
First PPV I've bought in a long time.

Opening EC match was a bit boring for my tastes, but seeing Hardy bump all over the place, especially with the Big Show and Kozlov trading moves with him as their rag doll was pretty fun.
Got no complaints with the HHH win.

Shane draws the only blood of the night, despite 12 guys being surrounded by TWO MILES OF STEEL CHAIN! Orton takes a monitor and apparently hardway juice, and still delivers a decent match. Shane was blown up early though and sweating like Barry Bonds at the Lie Detector's office. Good little match.

Jack Swagger wins, and I don't care.

Second EC match, I was looking forward to Kofi flying all over. Edge ruined that. So, instead it was Rey flying all night. Surprising me with a lot of innovative offense. Good match, although I am tired of Edge, so I am a bit disappointed with the result.

Overall good card.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.74
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    If I may make a Lost analogy, Edge is the Desmond of WWE. Edge is so very special. The rules don't apply to him. And as far as I'm concerned, because I love the guy, he can shockingly steal as many World Titles as he damn well pleases. I'll pop for it every single time. And I love the extra fringe benefit of Edge being on RAW for the next six weeks. Until the Draft reshuffles the roster.


That makes Vicki...Penny?

I don't like re-hashing the "our show doesn't have a champ" angle so soon...but it makes for some interesting TV I hope...



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.89
well I didn't see that coming, but intresting to see what happens next with Smackdown guys having both belts.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.09
After reading the results, I'm glad I didn't buy the PPV. A number of years ago, Triple H held the title almost 24/7...he was on every show, at the start with a long promo and in the PPV, and totally defying logic, reason and whatever else...would win the title.

Enter Edge, 2008/2009 - the exact same thing again. And yeah, I'm tired of it too.

What really bugs me is that the WWE knows the crowds react favorably when someone NEW holds the title belt. Look at CM Punk and Jeff Hardy...why the heck are they depending on their old standbys? Yes, I know Wrestlemania is coming up, but I would more than likely buy WM if it were CM Punk with the title or challenging for it than seeing Cena vs. Edge for the 7,455th time.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.89
well you have to go with what works rember when Hogan held/ won the belt at the first 3 Wrestlemanina then some how kept being champion in less then a year? why because it worked. Same goes with Triple H, and Edge it works. Im guessing to vince the only guys who can carry the bets are

Triple H, Edge, Cena, Orton, Taker,....humm....Jerico.
humm I guess thats it.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.54
    Originally posted by Oliver
    What really bugs me is that the WWE knows the crowds react favorably when someone NEW holds the title belt. Look at CM Punk and Jeff Hardy...why the heck are they depending on their old standbys? Yes, I know Wrestlemania is coming up, but I would more than likely buy WM if it were CM Punk with the title or challenging for it than seeing Cena vs. Edge for the 7,455th time.


The problem is once you win the title the first time, it's not as special after that. I don't believe for a second that a second title reign by Punk or Jeff would get the reaction of their first because it was a surprise.

Who do they have left now that can be a New Champion? It's not like they have so many great wrestlers that they can trot out somebody good enough that has never won the title every six months. There's maybe two guys left that haven't won the title before that I would believe as champions. I think you should actually be thankful that it happened with three guys (Jeff, Matt and Punk) within one year. That's more than usual and probably the best year of breakthroughs since Eddie and Benoit finally won.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by Quezzy


    The problem is once you win the title the first time, it's not as special after that. I don't believe for a second that a second title reign by Punk or Jeff would get the reaction of their first because it was a surprise.

    Who do they have left now that can be a New Champion? It's not like they have so many great wrestlers that they can trot out somebody good enough that has never won the title every six months. There's maybe two guys left that haven't won the title before that I would believe as champions. I think you should actually be thankful that it happened with three guys (Jeff, Matt and Punk) within one year. That's more than usual and probably the best year of breakthroughs since Eddie and Benoit finally won.


I agree, I can't think of anyone that fans are aching to see get "the chance" right now. However, with the right push leading up to it - I think you could plug MVP and Morrison into those roles. In a year or two Evan Bourne could potentially be plugged into that role with the proper push .



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
I just hate that BOTH world title matches at WM are the fourth or fifth time on PPV for each of the respective pairings. Jeff was RIGHT there. Usually at Mania there's at least one marquee never-before-seen bout. This year there's nothing. I'm sure it'll be a strong card work-wise, but it looks more like an above-average SummerSlam at this point.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.98
Now I disagree. You're putting a little too much emphasis on "first time champions". Jeff Hardy may have had his World Title cherry popped, but he's the guy the fans still very much want to have a World Title once more and a proper reign. (He's also in a similar spot as Edge in January 2006, who had his first WWE Title run ended in 3 weeks by Cena but has since become a long reigning, multi-time world champion.) So what if Hardy finally won it already? He deserves it again and done right.

For that matter, and this seems like more of a pipe dream right now, but CM Punk is another guy who (with proper build up) could win a World Title and have a proper reign. Then there's Christian, who's just returned, and is another guy longtime fans would love to see with a World Heavyweight or WWE Title run down the line. And he may be a heel, but no one would complain about Matt Hardy finally getting one of the two "real" World Titles.

WrestleMania 25 is not going to be the place where a new top dog will be crowned. Just accept it. The top of the card is being doled out to the guys the McMahons consider as the ones they can count on for the main events of the 25th anniversary of their biggest show: Orton (yes, Orton), Edge, Cena, Triple H, Undertaker, HBK, Jericho, Flair/Rourke maybe (for that mainstream pub), and Stone Cold in some shape or form.

Hand wringing of "where will this leave us after WrestleMania?" is going to hopefully be remedied a week after when the draft happens.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.20
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I just hate that BOTH world title matches at WM are the fourth or fifth time on PPV for each of the respective pairings. Jeff was RIGHT there. Usually at Mania there's at least one marquee never-before-seen bout. This year there's nothing. I'm sure it'll be a strong card work-wise, but it looks more like an above-average SummerSlam at this point.


Yeah, they probably should've held off on Jeff's big win for WM or not done it at all yet if it was just going to be for a month. Him finally winning at Mania would've been more memorable than Cena bringing the belt back to Raw or HHH saving Stephanie.

    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Who do they have left now that can be a New Champion?


I was thinking about that myself. At this point, William Regal, Matt Hardy, and Christian are the best wrestlers on the roster who've never won a WWE world title. Having two championships has allowed Benoit, Guerrero, RVD, Booker, Rey, Punk, and Jeff to all win world titles they probably otherwise wouldn't have.

    Originally posted by Oliver
    A number of years ago, Triple H held the title almost 24/7...he was on every show, at the start with a long promo and in the PPV, and totally defying logic, reason and whatever else...would win the title. Enter Edge, 2008/2009 - the exact same thing again.


Exactly the same, excepting that
HHH beat everyone clean, Edge couldn't beat anyone without his planz
HHH slow, Edge fast
HHH held the belt for almost a year and a half uninterrupted, Edge's last three reigns have been three weeks long and this one might be over in six

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