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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.53
    Originally posted by geemoney
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
        Originally posted by StaggerLee
        You can't have a HOF featuring WCW/NWA guys and NOT have both the Midnight Express or the Rock N Roll Express.


      Some years Jim Ross has been able to get a guy he wanted in, like Danny Hodge and Gordon Solie, so it might be conceivable that he could get Cornette approved.

      (edited by JustinShapiro on 24.5.10 1638)

    Pretty sure Hodge isn't in.


Whoooooa. It was talked about so much that I just inducted him in my mind.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.37
Luger, Sting, Diamond Dallas Page and The Steiner Brothers would be my first choices among those who haven't yet been inducted-- they were the guys who held the line against the nWo, and since I started watching in '97, they're naturally the first people I think of when I think of WCW. (Well, them, and Benoit, Glacier and Ultimo Dragon, my favorite wrestlers from those days).

Chris Benoit would have been a lock for the Hall of Fame before his death; now, there's no chance in hell of it ever happening.

Arn Anderson would be a great choice... hell, enshrine all the Four Horsemen together. (That would technically put Benoit in there, too, heh.)



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.91
    Originally posted by rv581
      Originally posted by spf
      I think it will be a long long time before you see Luger.


    Dude, you CAN'T have a WCW wing in the HOF without Lex Lugar.

    Lugar was, like, the Randy Savage of WCW.

    Cough.










Except Luger has a victory other than count-out over Hogan.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.22
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    You can't have a HOF featuring WCW/NWA guys and NOT have both the Midnight Express or the Rock N Roll Express.
Steiners too.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.22
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    Cornette might do it if it meant a wider audience to buy his MX book.
He called the WWE Hall of Fame a joke and bashed Vince on his Podcast. He's not getting in.
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.22
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Luger, Sting, Diamond Dallas Page and The Steiner Brothers would be my first choices among those who haven't yet been inducted-- they were the guys who held the line against the nWo, and since I started watching in '97, they're naturally the first people I think of when I think of WCW. (Well, them, and Benoit, Glacier and Ultimo Dragon, my favorite wrestlers from those days).

    Chris Benoit would have been a lock for the Hall of Fame before his death; now, there's no chance in hell of it ever happening.

    Arn Anderson would be a great choice... hell, enshrine all the Four Horsemen together. (That would technically put Benoit in there, too, heh.)
Steiners deserve to get in for their incredible work from 89-94. All Horsemen eh? Even Paul Roma and Mongo McMichael?
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.25
Welcome home, men of the 2nd Bn, 127th Infantry, 32d "Red Arrow" Brigade, WI Army National Guard! Job well done in Iraq!

Here's a flyer for ya:

Jim Crockett Sr.

Seems like the E's HOF has at least one posthumous induction every year...and without Big Jim taking Mid-Atlantic to the top of the NWA, and passing it onto Jim Jr., Mid-Atlantic doesn't evolve into WCW, and who knows if those big NWA stars would've gotten so big without the JCP stage.

Plus, it's not like they'll induct Ted Turner. :-)







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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.86
Even though he's unquestionably a future Hall of Famer - and would fit in perfectly with the proposed WCW year - I can't see Arn Anderson going in when Flair is still dicking around in TNA. Flair being the one to induct Arn just seems wrong.

I'd probably say the same thing for Vader - who would actually be a really good choice - but the temptation has to be to wait until Mick Foley can be the guy to do it.

Otherwise the only guy I can think of that hasn't been said is Rick Rude - who I think of as just as much a WWF guy as a WCW guy but was a staple of the upper mid-card through the late-80s and early-90s and, by all accounts, was pretty well-liked. You could do worse for the annual "one or two dead guys", I think.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15

If Arn & Tully aren't inducted next year in Atlanta, then it's all crap.

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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard

    I'd probably say the same thing for Vader - who would actually be a really good choice - but the temptation has to be to wait until Mick Foley can be the guy to do it.


Harley Race would be perfectly acceptable for the job if he's in any shape to speak.



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.99
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Except Luger has a victory other than count-out over Hogan.


Luger has a SUBMISSION win over Hogan to boot. Who else can say that? I'm asking sincerely. Did Sting beat him eventually with a Scorpion?

(edited by Matt Tracker on 26.5.10 1232)


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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Except Luger has a victory other than count-out over Hogan.


    Luger has a SUBMISSION win over Hogan to boot. Who else can say that? I'm asking sincerely. Did Sting beat him eventually with a Scorpion?

    (edited by Matt Tracker on 26.5.10 1232)


Kurt Angle made him tap at KOTR 2002. Lesnar made him pass out to the bear hug before SummerSlam 2002. And Starrcade 1997 ended with Sting having Hogan locked in the Sharpshooter while Bret Hart Rang The Fucking Bell.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.91
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard


    Otherwise the only guy I can think of that hasn't been said is Rick Rude - who I think of as just as much a WWF guy as a WCW guy but was a staple of the upper mid-card through the late-80s and early-90s and, by all accounts, was pretty well-liked. You could do worse for the annual "one or two dead guys", I think.






Was tempted to mention him, but the night in '97 when he was shown on a taped RAW and a live Nitro still has to stick out in Vince's mind.
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.90
Vince McMahon wanted Ray Combs to be a Raw guest host, so lord knows what he remembers about things that happened in the late '90s.
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.08
A couple names come to mind - and I am not a huge 'E HOF fame, so it is possible they are in, although I doubt it.

Ray Traylor - he had the Big Bubba thing for many years before becoming the BossMan

The Great Muta - just a thought



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#36 Posted on
The only WCW names striking me as HOF-worthy are these:
Ron Simmons
Midnight Express / Rock n Roll Express
Lex Luger
Vader
Arn Anderson


Wild cards... Magnum T.A.? La Parka? Kidding.

I don't see DDP as Hall-worthy, unfortunately. And not yet on the Steiners.





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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.72
I always felt that DDP was being shoved down our throats as a main eventer, so I would disagree on saying he's a good HOF candidate. Even after he'd been main eventing for years, it seemed very unnatural.

It's actually somewhat similar to how I felt (feel?) about Sheamus being a main eventer. The only differences are that DDP actually had charisma, and instead of being promoted to the main event right out of the gate, he was merely promoted to the main event out of the mid-card (but for no discernible reason).

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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.70
I only really got back into WCW in 1996 and thus missed Page stinking it up in the midcard from 1993-1995, so maybe this influences my opinion. But I always considered DDP to be one of the few true success stories of WCW --- a homegrown star who seemed to get over on his own accord, has terrific charisma, the fans really took to him and embraced his 'man of the people' gimmick. People always compare Goldberg to Austin, but really, Page was truly WCW's answer to Austin (Goldberg was more like WCW's Undertaker, just a force of nature plowing through people).

Page had loads of great matches with the likes of Raven, Sting, Benoit, Goldberg himself, Savage, Giant, etc. plus an underrated tag team run as a member of the Jersey Triad with Bigelow and Kanyon. Here's a guy who didn't rest on his laurels as Bischoff's buddy, but rather worked hard to make himself into a better wrestler so he could deliver better matches once put into that spot. Needless to say, I'm fully on board with DDP going into the Hall.
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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.02
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    ...I always felt that DDP was being shoved down our throats as a main eventer, so I would disagree on saying he's a good HOF candidate. Even after he'd been main eventing for years, it seemed very unnatural.


I disagree. You can't force a whole arena full of fans to make the Dynasty Diamond Cutter sign. As much as some people inside and outside the business deny or hate to admit it, DDP, like Brutus Beefcake, was over—and not because of who he was friends with. (And yes, Bruti was over without Hogan.)

    Originally posted by Big Bad
    But I always considered DDP to be one of the few true success stories of WCW --- a homegrown star who seemed to get over on his own accord, has terrific charisma, the fans really took to him and embraced his 'man of the people' gimmick. People always compare Goldberg to Austin, but really, Page was truly WCW's answer to Austin...

    ...Here's a guy who didn't rest on his laurels as Bischoff's buddy, but rather worked hard to make himself into a better wrestler so he could deliver better matches once put into that spot. Needless to say, I'm fully on board with DDP going into the Hall.


DDP was hot in '97; if anything, I think they waited too long to pull the trigger on him.



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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.72
    Originally posted by Whattaburger
    I disagree. You can't force a whole arena full of fans to make the Dynasty Diamond Cutter sign. As much as some people inside and outside the business deny or hate to admit it, DDP, like Brutus Beefcake, was over—and not because of who he was friends with. (And yes, Bruti was over without Hogan.)

Oh I agree that he was over, especially after he was catapulted into the main event picture. But you know who else is/was ridiculously over and can make an arena full of people mimic his gimmick? R-Truth. And Scotty 2 Hotty. And The Godfather. But if the writers suddenly put one of them into a feud for a world championship, don't you think it would seem a bit forced?

These are obviously more extreme examples than DDP's situation but I think the logic still applies. I probably didn't do a good job making my point originally. I guess what I was trying to say is that after dwelling in the mid-card for seemingly forever, holding arm wrestling challenges and being completely upstaged by Kimberly, I didn't understand why he suddenly became a main eventer. I mean, we're talking about being retired by the f'n Booty Man one year and then headlining shows with the nWo less than 12 months later. Pretty rapid ascension, no?

Maybe it was the rub he got from his old buddy Scott Hall? Or maybe it was just because he came up with the Diamond Cutter right after Stone Cold started popularizing the Stunner. Who knows, I just thought it was peculiar how a veteran who was a low-level champion at best and a JTTS at worst suddenly became the company's top face.

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