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#21 Posted on
    Originally posted by JMShapiro
    "I saw plenty of talk here about how the Bash would bomb and instead it increased it's buyrate over Judgment Day which I would love to see anyone here explain, since everyone, myself included, seemed so confident Bradshaw was a total bust and NO ONE wanted to see another rematch between the two, right?"

    I'm a man. Charlie here, he's a man. I blew it. It still makes no sense, but for now, and we'll see how No Mercy does since he'll still have the title, you'd have to say that the Layfield push 'took' far better than expected and the finish to the Los Angeles match worked perfectly. Either that or the advertised murder of Paul Bearer is a draw. Not that 230,000 is something to throw a party over, but it sure beats 200,000. Whether or not people are going to buy Layfield as the world champion, in both senses of the word, we'll see. But point is, I pretty much guaranteed the Bash would do worse than Judgment Day and it did not, meaning I was worse than right: I was wrong.

    Hey PPV in Pittsburgh! Every three years we get one.

    (edited by JMShapiro on 8.8.04 1235)
What surprises me is not so much the strength of the Smackdown PPV's but the weakness of the Raw PPV's especially considering how Raw is perceived to be the hotter of the 2 shows. It would even seem to be that the better wrestling action is on those shows but that still doesn't seem to mean that much in terms of PPV buys.

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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41
Well, didn't WW give the Great American Bash free to US servicemen? I'm sure they'd count those freebies as "buys". I mean, it was probably a "send us a copy of your bill and proof of your service and we'll refund you" kind of things (so it, really, could be counted as a buy).

Or maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.

(and Hiroko isn't at ringside for you to oogle).


Since: 3.1.02
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.33
From The WWE:

Final estimates as of April 30, 2004, and estimates to be updated in April 2005:
SummerSlam 2003: ~460,000 buys
RAW Unforgiven 2003: ~360,000 buys
SD No Mercy 2003: ~280,000 buys
Survivor Series 2003: ~450,000 buys
RAW Armageddon 2003: ~250,000 buys
Royal Rumble 2004: ~590,000 buys
SD No Way Out 2004: ~260,000 buys
WrestleMania XX: ~880,000 buys
RAW Backlash 2004: ~290,000 buys
SD Judgment Day 2004: ~200,000 buys
RAW Bad Blood 2004: ~240,000 buys
SD Great American Bash 2004: 230,000 buys
RAW Vengeance 2004: ~225,000 buys

Using this data, expect the usual SummerSlam spike (it'll do about 400,000 buys compared to 460 in '03, 500+ in 02' and 550+ in 01'. So far RAW does better PPV business than Smackdown, so it's no small wonder that most co-branded shows are RAW-centric and they're giving RAW an extra show next year. After SummerSlam (if trends continue), Unforgiven , No Mercy & Taboo Tuesday will have about 180-200K buys apiece, then Survivor Series will perk things up to about 300-350K, then back down to 180-200K for Armageddon & the RAW PPV, then back up to 500K for the Rumble.

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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37
    Originally posted by Juggalo101
    WWE Royal Rumble - 485,000 buys
    WWE No Way Out - 250,000 buys
    WWE Wrestlemania - 825,000 buys
    WWE Backlash - 280,000 buys
    WWE Judgment Day - 205,000 buys
    WWE Bad Blood - 240,000 buys
    WWE Great American Bash - 230,000 buys
    WWE Vengeance - 220,000 buys

    Blame it on the shitty cards if you want, but there's still a bit of a decline.

Where? The last six single brand PPV's have gone 250k, 205k, 280k, 240k, 230k, 225k. Thats hardly evidence enough to suggest a decline, especially when you allow for the rounding that appears to go on (to the nearest 5,000 or so). They've been holding steady around the 230,000 mark with one sigificantly higher, one sinificantly lower. And the higher number is almost certainly more attribuitable to a peak in interest following WM XX than anything else.


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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
The 3-PPVs-in-2-months system was designed to increase the combined net profits for the WWE as compared to June and July last year, which it did. It's not secret that the WWE profits from the PPVs, a source which provides the company with 25% of its revenue, a percentage that's the highest amongst any of their sources. So, combining the three shows this year which, as stated, had slightly less buys EACH than last year's two, and you wind up with a bigger net profit overall, which is the WWE's bottom line.

While I'm sure Vince would've liked larger numbers, I also don't think he's complaining too much of the result.

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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.33
From what I remember, the WWF was still pulling down profits back when PPVs were doing crappy buyrates (1995 or 1996, if I recall). Their answer? More PPVs. Now that business is still pretty good and they theoretically made a ton of money during the boom from 2000 to 2003, they can afford lower buyrates as long as they run the business-side smart.

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Not that I've been keeping up with every PPV promotional poster, but the last one I remember liking that much is maybe the Royal Rumble/West Side Story one from a couple years back.
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