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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.47
From 411mania.com and PWI:

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/newsboard.php?news_id=10040



    - Sunday January 9th 2005 TBA (RAW) Puerto Rico
    - Sunday January 30th 2005 ROYAL RUMBLE Fresno, CA
    - Sunday February 20th 2005 NO WAY OUT (SD) Pittsburgh, PA
    - Sunday April 3rd 2005 WRESTLEMANIA XXI Los Angeles, CA
    - Sunday May 1st 2005 BACKLASH (RAW)
    - Sunday May 22nd 2005 JUDGMENT DAY (SD)
    - Sunday June 12th 2005 BAD BLOOD (RAW)
    - Sunday June 26th 2005 GREAT AMERICAN BASH (SD)
    - Sunday July 24th 2005 VENGEANCE (RAW)
    - Sunday August 21st 2005 SUMMERSLAM
    - Sunday September 18th 2005 UNFORGIVEN (SD)
    - Sunday October 9th 2005 NO MERCY (RAW)
    - Sunday October 30th 2005 TBA (SD)
    - Sunday November 27th 2005 SURVIVOR SERIES
    - Sunday December 18th 2005 ARMAGEDDON (RAW)



2005 will see the release of 15 WWE ppvs. 6 for RAW and 5 for Smackdown! And 4 combined brand shows. So RAW next year will once again get the lion's share. And there will be one more extra PPV next year than this one. Looks like WWE plans on keeping the Great American Bash title for now. Smackdown and RAW will be switching places next year with No mercy and Unforgiven. The first PPV of next year will be in Puerto Rico for the RAW brand. So will it be like one of those UK only PPV's or will it be broadcast in the US as well?

Anyway, with PPV buyrates as low as they are these days...is it such a smart idea to be adding so many extra PPV's?


(edited by The Vile1 on 8.8.04 2039)



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With the better than expected numbers of the 3 PPV's in about 2 months, I don't think it's a bad idea at all to add more PPV's. Their DVD sales of the events must help their bottom line as well.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
    Originally posted by Cognitive27
    With the better than expected numbers of the 3 PPV's in about 2 months, I don't think it's a bad idea at all to add more PPV's. Their DVD sales of the events must help their bottom line as well.


Better than expected? The hell you talking about? All three were way lower than they had hoped especially the "Hell In A Cell" Bad Blood. This is an absolute horrible idea in my opinion. It didn't work. Simple as that. One pay-per view a month is sufficient. And a pay-per view in January before the Rumble? Madness, I tell you...



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    Originally posted by The Vile1
    - Sunday April 3rd 2005 WRESTLEMANIA XXI Los Angeles, CA


I was already stoked about this...




    - Sunday January 30th 2005 ROYAL RUMBLE Fresno, CA



However, this is absolutely awesome.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.47
    Originally posted by Whitebacon

      Originally posted by The Vile1
      - Sunday April 3rd 2005 WRESTLEMANIA XXI Los Angeles, CA


    I was already stoked about this...




      - Sunday January 30th 2005 ROYAL RUMBLE Fresno, CA



    However, this is absolutely awesome.


Yes Whitebacon, all the torture of living in California has finally paid off huh ? J/k. So what venue is Wresltemania XXI at this year?




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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.38
The most interesting thing about the Puerto Rico PPV is how well the fan response gets over on TV.
Also, by the look of the schedule, they don't plan on going with any more weeknight PPV's after the Tuesday one this October.
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How is getting 1 more PPV, a "lion's share", btw?

They can put on 5 or 50 PPV's for all I care, with the line-ups for GAB and Judgement Day, I still wouldn't buy them.



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So what venue is Wresltemania XXI at this year?

They announced the Staples Centre at WM XX... Arena appears to be favourable over stadium for them at the moment.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.47
    Originally posted by Cognitive27
    With the better than expected numbers of the 3 PPV's in about 2 months, I don't think it's a bad idea at all to add more PPV's. Their DVD sales of the events must help their bottom line as well.


http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/newsboard.php?news_id=10046



    WWE has announced the following buyrates:

    WWE Judgment Day - 205,000 buys
    WWE Bad Blood - 240,000 buys
    WWE Great American Bash - 230,000 buys
    WWE Vengeance - 220,000 buys



These don't seem like "better than expected" type numbers to me.

(edited by The Vile1 on 8.8.04 2040)



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.33
    Originally posted by The Vile1
      Originally posted by Cognitive27
      With the better than expected numbers of the 3 PPV's in about 2 months, I don't think it's a bad idea at all to add more PPV's. Their DVD sales of the events must help their bottom line as well.


    http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/newsboard.php?news_id=10046

    "WWE has announced the following buyrates:

    WWE Judgment Day - 205,000 buys
    WWE Bad Blood - 240,000 buys
    WWE Great American Bash - 230,000 buys
    WWE Vengeance - 220,000 buys"

    These don't seem like "better than expected" type numbers to me.


So, instead of getting 3 PPVs grossing 300K apiece, they get 4 grossing slightly less?



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.47
If that's the spin you want to put on it. But all 4 of those numbers a little more than "slightly less" than 300K apiece.




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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
    Originally posted by Freeway420
    So, instead of getting 3 PPVs grossing 300K apiece, they get 4 grossing slightly less?


Right, but when you factor in the cost of the extra ppv and how it's not really "slightly less" than 300,000, then you have a problem.



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#13 Posted on
    Originally posted by Juggalo101
      Originally posted by Freeway420
      So, instead of getting 3 PPVs grossing 300K apiece, they get 4 grossing slightly less?


    Right, but when you factor in the cost of the extra ppv and how it's not really "slightly less" than 300,000, then you have a problem.
I don't think you do have a problem as there are still future dvd sales to be made and I don't think that the buy rates are that much lower than they would have been with or without one of the extra PPV's thrown in and I saw plenty of talk here about how the Bash would bomb and instead it increased it's buyrate over Judgment Day which I would love to see anyone here explain, since everyone, myself included, seemed so confident Bradshaw was a total bust and NO ONE wanted to see another rematch between the two, right? The fact that it's that close to Bad Blood's buyrate can be seen as a good thing as far as I'm concerned. I'm not advocating always throwing in another PPV every month but I don't think this experiment can be deemed a failure at all.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37
    Originally posted by The Vile1
      Originally posted by Cognitive27
      With the better than expected numbers of the 3 PPV's in about 2 months, I don't think it's a bad idea at all to add more PPV's. Their DVD sales of the events must help their bottom line as well.


    http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/newsboard.php?news_id=10046

    "WWE has announced the following buyrates:

    WWE Judgment Day - 205,000 buys
    WWE Bad Blood - 240,000 buys
    WWE Great American Bash - 230,000 buys
    WWE Vengeance - 220,000 buys"

    These don't seem like "better than expected" type numbers to me.


Judgement Day (15th May) was the last of the regular monthly PPV's before, 4 weeks later at Bad Blood (13th June) they started the 3 PPV in a month experiment which finished with Vengeance on July 11.

The last monthly PPV drew the worst buyrate of the lot of 'em. Holding 3 PPV's in a month thus may very well not have had a negative impact on buy rates. And No Way Out in February drew only 250,000 buys.

Quite where anyone got the notion that 300,000 buys would have been acheived in the absence of the extra PPV is beyond me.



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#15 Posted on
    Originally posted by dMr
      Originally posted by The Vile1
        Originally posted by Cognitive27
        With the better than expected numbers of the 3 PPV's in about 2 months, I don't think it's a bad idea at all to add more PPV's. Their DVD sales of the events must help their bottom line as well.


      http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/newsboard.php?news_id=10046

      "WWE has announced the following buyrates:

      WWE Judgment Day - 205,000 buys
      WWE Bad Blood - 240,000 buys
      WWE Great American Bash - 230,000 buys
      WWE Vengeance - 220,000 buys"

      These don't seem like "better than expected" type numbers to me.


    Judgement Day (15th May) was the last of the regular monthly PPV's before, 4 weeks later at Bad Blood (13th June) they started the 3 PPV in a month experiment which finished with Vengeance on July 11.

    The last monthly PPV drew the worst buyrate of the lot of 'em. Holding 3 PPV's in a month thus may very well not have had a negative impact on buy rates. And No Way Out in February drew only 250,000 buys.

    Quite where anyone got the notion that 300,000 buys would have been acheived in the absence of the extra PPV is beyond me.
I have to agree with you here as I don't think Backlash with Benoit in the triple threat rematch did much better in the buyrates either. I think the bottom line is the PPV experiment did not fail.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.93
    Originally posted by The Vile1
      Originally posted by Whitebacon

        Originally posted by The Vile1
        - Sunday April 3rd 2005 WRESTLEMANIA XXI Los Angeles, CA


      I was already stoked about this...




        - Sunday January 30th 2005 ROYAL RUMBLE Fresno, CA



      However, this is absolutely awesome.


    Yes Whitebacon, all the torture of living in California has finally paid off huh ? J/k. So what venue is Wresltemania XXI at this year?



I take it you've never visited the Central Valley. Anyway... WMXXI is at the Staples Center this year, unless they move it to the Pond in Anaheim due to "security concerns", like they did for WM VII.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.78
    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    Anyway... WMXXI is at the Staples Center this year, unless they move it to the Pond in Anaheim due to "security concerns", like they did for WM VII.


Nah. They don't have to worry about the space (selling 100k of tix) this time. Besides, the acoustics at the Pond are shitty for crowds (That's why it always sounds dead.)




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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
WWE Royal Rumble - 485,000 buys
WWE No Way Out - 250,000 buys
WWE Wrestlemania - 825,000 buys
WWE Backlash - 280,000 buys
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WWE Judgment Day - 205,000 buys
WWE Bad Blood - 240,000 buys
WWE Great American Bash - 230,000 buys
WWE Vengeance - 220,000 buys

Blame it on the shitty cards if you want, but there's still a bit of a decline. Shame on the 230,000 people who bought the Great American Bash...



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"I saw plenty of talk here about how the Bash would bomb and instead it increased it's buyrate over Judgment Day which I would love to see anyone here explain, since everyone, myself included, seemed so confident Bradshaw was a total bust and NO ONE wanted to see another rematch between the two, right?"

I'm a man. Charlie here, he's a man. I blew it. It still makes no sense, but for now, and we'll see how No Mercy does since he'll still have the title, you'd have to say that the Layfield push 'took' far better than expected and the finish to the Los Angeles match worked perfectly. Either that or the advertised murder of Paul Bearer is a draw. Not that 230,000 is something to throw a party over, but it sure beats 200,000. Whether or not people are going to buy Layfield as the world champion, in both senses of the word, we'll see. But point is, I pretty much guaranteed the Bash would do worse than Judgment Day and it did not, meaning I was worse than right: I was wrong.




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I hope the UK gets one of those PPV shows next year.



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