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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.44
Actually, Sting had a couple of great matches with DDP in 1998 and 1999 (both in April, I think) on Nitro. In my books, he's a HOFer, but I can respect arguments as to why he doesn't make the cut.

To say that HHH was on top for WWE's best drawing year is a bit erroneous. The Rock was the biggest drawing card in 2000, and to say otherwise is nonsense. HHH certainly was a great foil, no doubt about it, but his role WAS to be the foil. He was the equivalent of Roddy Piper in 1985 or Mr. McMahon in 1998, except that HHH was a great worker back then.



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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.61
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Actually, Sting had a couple of great matches with DDP in 1998 and 1999 (both in April, I think) on Nitro. In my books, he's a HOFer, but I can respect arguments as to why he doesn't make the cut.


Eddy Guerrero has had probably 10 times as many good matches as Sting, and he isn't in the HoF (yet).

There are a number of workers & teams that should be in the Hall of Fame. Sting, if he's on it at all, is on the low end of the list.

    Originally posted by Big Bad
    To say that HHH was on top for WWE's best drawing year is a bit erroneous. The Rock was the biggest drawing card in 2000, and to say otherwise is nonsense. HHH certainly was a great foil, no doubt about it, but his role WAS to be the foil. He was the equivalent of Roddy Piper in 1985 or Mr. McMahon in 1998, except that HHH was a great worker back then.


Actually, during the fiscal year of the most profit, HHH was the top guy. Rock was doing a movie, and Austin was injured. And even as a foil, Piper's already in.





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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
    Originally posted by Mild Mannered Madman
    Actually, during the fiscal year of the most profit, HHH was the top guy. Rock was doing a movie, and Austin was injured. And even as a foil, Piper's already in.


If I recall correctly, Austin was out on injury hiatus between Nov 1999-Sept 2000. Rock wasn't doing a movie during that time, he was very much on top of the WWE. The only time HHH was on top without the "assistance" of either of the two..was about a year into the start of recession in mid-2002.
I've actually made the HHH-Roddy Piper comparison numerous times in my head. He's more so him than Ric Flair in just about every way...except with Ric Flair's push.
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
    Originally posted by Mild Mannered Madman
      Originally posted by Big Bad
      To say that HHH was on top for WWE's best drawing year is a bit erroneous. The Rock was the biggest drawing card in 2000, and to say otherwise is nonsense. HHH certainly was a great foil, no doubt about it, but his role WAS to be the foil. He was the equivalent of Roddy Piper in 1985 or Mr. McMahon in 1998, except that HHH was a great worker back then.


    Actually, during the fiscal year of the most profit, HHH was the top guy. Rock was doing a movie, and Austin was injured. And even as a foil, Piper's already in.




I'm assuming that that would be April 2000 to April 2001. In which case Rock was there for damn near all of it. The only movie he did at this time was his bit part in The Mummy Returns. His first major gap was Wrestlemania 2001 to Summerslam 2001 when he was filming The Scorpion King. He was at every PPV from April 2000 to April 2001 so any gap would be minimal.
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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
Kurt I think should be in. I mean from day one he's been one of the all around best in the WWE. Great wrestler, great on the stick, great feuds, he does everything well, every time he is on the screen is entertaining. Is it early in his career? yeah I guess, but really I don't think he do anything the rest of his career that will tarnish what he is already done. So he probably would've gotten in eventually anyway. So if he fits the qualifications then I have no problem with him being in.

Jericho however should definitely be in if Kurt is. You can say the same thing about him, but he's been doing it for longer. Even when he was in WCW wrestling in the mid card with the likes of Juvy and Prince Iakeua he was one of the most entertaining parts of the show. As for accomplishments he was the first Undisputed Champion, maybe that isn't a big deal anymore, but it's more than Kurt has done.

Like someone else said, if i was voting, Sting would probably get a vote some years if I had open spots, but he's not a guy who would be first on my list.

Anybody know how many years Eddie has been in the voting? If he's been in the voting more than once did his % go up or down from last year?



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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    To say that HHH was on top for WWE's best drawing year is a bit erroneous. The Rock was the biggest drawing card in 2000, and to say otherwise is nonsense. HHH certainly was a great foil, no doubt about it, but his role WAS to be the foil. He was the equivalent of Roddy Piper in 1985 or Mr. McMahon in 1998, except that HHH was a great worker back then.


You can look at it either way, but Rock took a LOT of house shows off in 2000, leaving HHH as the top draw there. And that matters because they were true to their word and advertised HHH as the number one guy who was going to be at those house shows. And, with HHH leading the way, they broke a lot of house show attendance records that year, albeit they did the same thing when Rock was also there.

You can argue either way, but HHH *was* one of the top two draws that year, along with Rock. Can't take that away from him.



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There was the three-month period in the middle of 2000 where it could be argued that Hunter was, despite not holding the strap, being promoted as the top guy to see in action. At Fully Loaded he had the long-simmering LMS match with Jericho whilst Rocky fought Benoit in a one-off ME; at SS The Rock's role in the triple threat match was overshadowed by the HHH/Angle/Steph love triangle; and at Unforgiven said triangle was wrapped up with oodles of promotion whilst Rocky retained the title in a throwaway fatal fourway.



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