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i keep on hearing about how both the pro wrestling torch and pro wrestling observer are the two most well known newsletters out there. How "close to the inside" are they in the world of wrestling? Also, i hear Dave Meltzer's name being used alot, how important is he in the world of wrestling?

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From what I've gathered, the Torch and Observer both allegedly have "deep throats" in WWE. Names have been thrown around, and the most popular one (I think) is Rob Van Dam. Dave Meltzer is judged by most to be more reliable than Bob Ryder, and his site (I think) is the one with less popups. It's either 1Bob and 411Hell or 1pop and 411somethingelse.



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Dave Meltzer is the "king" of wrestling media if you will. He's been around wrestling for decades and to my knowledge, has always been 100% accurate. To put things in perspective a little, In Foley's first book he mentions how he and Owen Hart wanted to put on a good match at a house show because Meltzer was in attendance. Wade Keller and The Torch is fine too, and is a (righly so)respected figure in wrestling. To me, The Torch relies more on editorials and opinion rather than news and results.
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Sometimes I ask myself why I watch WWE after all the crap it's given me. HLA, necro, HHH, and so on. And then it hits me. That one simple phrase that can be modified and used for anything that gets you down, yet makes you keep coming back.

Every episode has the potential to be the best one ever, and I'll be damned if I'm going to miss it after sitting through this shit.
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Both Dave (www.wrestlingobserver.com) and Wade (www.pwtorch.com) simply talk to the wrestlers, around the world and up and down the food chain. Besides wrestlers (and Dave's not going to reveal who's saying what, so names are just guesses - maybe educated ones), Dave appears to talk to front office people too. Vince knows who both of these guys are and may or may not be reading the sheets - Meltzer has mentioned that The Fink subscribes and shares with his friends/emloyeers.

They are wrong sometimes, because they can get wrong information (things chance after Dave mentions or someone's purposely feeding bad information) or they can make mistakes analyzing it. When reading stuff from these guys - or most anyone really - their sources aren't just giving information for no reason. It could be that they just like talking about this stuff with someone on the outside to get a some more context to it, maybe they're just trading what they know for what Wade/Dave knows, or maybe they've got an ax to grind. You never know, so you've got take the "a person backstage says" bits with the knowledge that it may not be the whole/only/accurate truth.

Most non-offical information comes from those guys, 1wrestling.com (which does the same thing, tends to get more from an ECW-slant, as they appear to have a lot of ex-ECW contacts) and any interviews the guys do

Promotions do react to what's said, although it's not always the "that's a good suggestion, we should change" reaction, and seemingly more the "no, you're completely wrong, and we're going to do the direct opposite direction" reaction.
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I've never read The Torch. However, I will say that the Wrestling Observer is a fantastic read, and your guaranteed to learn something new in each issue. Plus, his "History of WWF" articles he's done over the past several months are worth the price of the subscription alone.

And no talk about wrestling newsletters can go by without me shilling the Figure Four Weekly. It is the funniest newsletter out there, and (even though it's pretty expensive) it is definitley worth checking out.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.93
"How "close to the inside" are they in the world of wrestling?"

Referring to Cubs' educated guesses, you're talking Jim Ross and Paul Heyman, for example, at the 'closest,' and SD head writer David Lagana was a longtime Observer letter-writer, along with less recognizable names in the front office. Of course, there's also whatever wrestlers like to talk to them (follow the World of Dave long enough and some names will be more obvious than others).

There's a widely misrepresented notion that there's "The Mole" who's leaking stuff from an airtight organization. That's not the case at all; the sheets are an accepted reality, and lots of people talk, even Vince when he feels like it.
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I subscribed to the Torch for over a year. I just got sick of reading news a week old. I read the'net. My only concern with the Torch is that VIP shit they started a while ago. I used to read Mitchell since he's my favorite writer. the fuckers don't even put up past articles now. a nice way of killing your company.
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