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bradc
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Since: 28.6.03
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#1 Posted on
I've heard about some wrestling moves, but have no idea what they are.

emerald fusion
bread slice #2
pheonix splash
Osaka street cutter
Ki Crusher 99

if you guys have any idea, please let me know. thanks.
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DarrylTheHitman
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Since: 21.9.02
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Well, the majority of them I don't know either. However, I think you might mean the Sliced Bread #2. This move is when Brian Kendrick/Spanky grabs the guy like he's going to hit a bulldog and then climbs the turnbuckle. This is the same way Spike Dudley appiles the Dudley Dog. However, once Spanky reaches the top turnbuckle, he does a backflip while holding on to his opponent, thus coming off in a Scorpion Death Drop/Slop Drop position. As for how it got it's name, I believe I read that he was cutting a promo on an indy show about the phrase "_________ is the greatest thing since sliced bread." With that logic, if he believes his move is the greatest thing since sliced bread, then that would make his move Sliced Bread #2. Of course, I certainly do not profess to be an expert on this. If anyone else knows more, or more accurate details, feel free to jump in.



YossinoIC
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Ki Krusher '99 - Combination Perfect Plex and Michinoku Driver. Essentially Low Ki locks his opponent up as if he's about to bridge into a Perfect Plex/Fisherman Suplex, but instead lifts him in the air and drops him like a Michinoku Driver all while continuing to hold the opponent's arms and legs in the locked position.

Phoenix Splash - 450 splash with an added twist. The wrestler performing the move faces the turnbuckle instead of his opponent.





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uberlou
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Since: 26.3.03
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Emerald Fusion - opponent is draped over the shoulder, almost like they're being prepared for a shoulder breaker. But instead, the person giving the move sits down driving the opponent down head first. It's almost like a Tombstone on the side.

For the Osaka Street Cutter, i'll use the definition from the Big Book of Wrestling Moves:

Bulldog, 3/4 Face Lock, Inverted Facelock Suplex
Used by : Super Delfin
AKA : Osaka Stunner (Delfin)
Description : The attacker applies an inverted facelock on the victim. The attacker hooks the victim's tights and lifts them straight up in the air so the victim is upside down. The attacker lets the victim's body fall over their shoulder, as they fall, the release the inverted facelock and shift it into a 3/4 face lock (basically, the victim's head on the attacker's shoulder with the attacker forming a headlock around the top of their head as the attacker has their back to the victim) and drops to the mat, impacting the victim's chin into the attacker's shoulder.






talena696
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Since: 27.4.03
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#5 Posted on
As a master in the knowlegde of wrestling moves, I can provide the description of each move, and possibly a nice pic as well, so here ya go...

1.)Emerald Fusion: A move created by Mitsuharu Misawa. He sets it up like for a suplex, he then lifts the victim onto his shoulder, stomach first. He then bend their head on with his arm, opposite from the shoulder the victim is on. He sits down driving the victim's head and upper back into the mat.

This has so many different names like Emarald Frosion, Emarald Erosion, or Emerald Fusion. But technically they're all the same move.

Here's a pic of the move, done to Shinjiro Othani by Misawa....



2.)Sliced Bread #2: Described beautifully by DarrylTheHitman, so I won't decribe it. I can give a background info on it though.
The real name of the of the move is the Shiranui. Invented by NOAH junior heavyweight, Naomichi Marufuji. Awesome move indeed.

3.)Phoenix Splash: Again already described by YossinoIC and is basically moonsault that turns into a 450 Splash. The Phoenix Splash is a move created by the legendary Hayabusa. While in Mexico, He decided he needed a move that no other wrestler used, so the Phoenix Splash was created. He originally called it the Stardust Press. Later it was renamed the Phoenix Splash.

4.)Osaka Street Cutter: Invented by Super Delfin. It's basically a inverted Suplex turned into a Stone Cold Stunner. Delfin calls it the Defin Stunner now though.

5.)Ki Krusher '99 Already described, yet again by YossinoIC. No need to give history either, since Low-Ki invented the move.

So I hope this clears up your move puzzlements, if you need any more, I'll always be glad to help ya out. For now, LATER!!






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Nag
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Since: 10.1.03
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#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by talena696


    So I hope this clears up your move puzzlements, if you need any more, I'll always be glad to help ya out. For now, LATER!!





Okay, the burning question, DDT? What does it stand for?
DarrylTheHitman
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Since: 21.9.02
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#7 Posted on
I've read a few names Jake Roberts had for it...Dirty Damn Trick, Drop Dead Twice, or simply "The End". It's actually a short name for a poison but I have no idea what the full name is.



The Vile1
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tasslex
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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by DarrylTheHitman
    I've read a few names Jake Roberts had for it...Dirty Damn Trick, Drop Dead Twice, or simply "The End". It's actually a short name for a poison but I have no idea what the full name is.


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From this page:http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/9632/snakeint-mar96.html


Question: HOW DID YOU THINK OF THE DDT?

Jake: 1977 was the first time I used it. It happened by accident. I had front-faced locked an opponent and he pushed me backwards and stepped on my foot at the same time. We both fell and only I got up and quite to my surprise, he was knocked out. From there, I just worked on perfecting the hold. The name DDT was taken from a poison the government had outlawed.





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Since: 11.10.02
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#11 Posted on

    Originally posted by talena696
    He originally called it the Stardust Press. Later it was renamed the Phoenix Splash.



I think i've seen this also called a Sky Twisting Moonsault or Skytwister Press (depending on the whims of the announcers), performed by Blitzkrieg during his short-lived stay in WCW.



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darkmatcher
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Since: 12.2.03
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#12 Posted on

    Originally posted by talena696
    So I hope this clears up your move puzzlements, if you need any more, I'll always be glad to help ya out. For now, LATER!!





May I ask, who was the first American wrestler to use the hurricarana?



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Nag
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The 5th Horseman
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#14 Posted on

    Originally posted by darkmatcher
    May I ask, who was the first American wrestler to use the hurricarana?

The first one I saw was Scott Steiner when he called it the "Frankensteiner".



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talena696
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Since: 27.4.03
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    Originally Quoted by:darkmatcher
    May I ask, who was the first American wrestler to use the hurricarana?






    Also quoted by:THE 5th Horseman
    The first person I saw do the move is Scott Steiner



Actually, Scott Steiner does not do the Hurricanrana. He does a release variation without the double leg hook cradle. Yes, he invented the frankensteiner, but not the Hurircanrana.

HERE'S THE HURRICANRANA STORY:

So the Hurricanrana is technically known as a reverse victory roll, but a guy it Mexico named "Hurricane" Hector Gonzales used it as his finisher and called it a "Hurricanrana". So when the first ever luchadores ventured onto to America, those idiotic announcers called it the hurricanrana everytime thinkng that was the name of it. I hope that clears everything up.

2 MORE STORIES OF AMERICAN ANNOUNCER IDIOTICY:

The first deals with the great ECW announcer, Joey Styles. Now it has been known that Masato Tanaka uses the Rolling Elbow as his finisher. But the sad thing is that Joey Styles misannounced it and called it the ROARING ELBOW instead. Now every American announcer does, even that ain't the name of it. WHY?! Becuase japanese double "L's" sound like an "R" sound.

The second one has nothing to do with a particular move, it has to deal with Micheal Cole and his name announcing. The dumbass misannounces the Great SASUKE name everytime Ultimo Dragon comes out to wrestle. He says SASKE. IT'S SAUKE, MORON!! There's a U in the name. FIRE HIM NOW!!

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#16 Posted on

    Originally posted by Nag

    Okay, the burning question, DDT? What does it stand for?



Jake once also said on The Body Shop that DDT stood for ``Damien's Dinner Time''.... that's what I've always thought it stood for. But then again, he'd been using the move long before there was a Damien, so who knows....



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Since: 1.3.02
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The second one has nothing to do with a particular move, it has to deal with Micheal Cole and his name announcing. The dumbass misannounces the Great SASUKE name everytime Ultimo Dragon comes out to wrestle. He says SASKE. IT'S SAUKE, MORON!! There's a U in the name. FIRE HIM NOW!!


_______________________________________

Actually, it might be pronounced SAS-KEH. With many Japanese words, there is no pronunciation of the U. For instance, Yokosuka City is pronounced YO-KOE-SKAH, and Kensuke Sasaki's fist name is actually pronounced KEN-SKEH. That's kinda' funny, because for the last eleven years up until about two weeks ago, I pronounced his name KEN-SOO-KEH.

Speaking of the DDT BTW, when I was a kid, I was always used to seeing Jake Roberts' DDT and excepting that that was the definitive way the move was executed. But when we finally got the NWA/WCW in Denver, my brother and I saw the Freebirds (Garvin and Hayes) completley ANNIHILATE a couple of jobbers. When we saw Jimmy "Jam" Garvin deliver a DDT, his hapless opponent's head hit the mat and the dude rolled onto his back. It looked so devastating we felt that Garvin's rendition, and other wrestlers in WCW and elsewhere who did the DDT that way deserved some kind of recognition or distinction.

So nowadays, whenever we see someone get DDT'd and they end up on their back, i.e. anyone who doesn't just flop down face first, we refer to those types of DDT's as "Jimmy Jam DDT's." Hell, we even got the name to stick with some of our friends in elementary and middle school!

Just keep your eyes peeled watching wrestling, because you never know when you'll see a Jimmy Jam DDT! Matter of fact, I'd be willing to wager that the majority of DDT's one
sees nowadays are indeed, Jimmy Jams!


Ummm... I think I need to take my meds now...

(edited by RKMtwin on 13.7.03 2215)

(edited by RKMtwin on 13.7.03 2253)

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SchippeWreck
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Since: 26.3.03
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#18 Posted on
    Originally posted by talena696
    The second one has nothing to do with a particular move, it has to deal with Micheal Cole and his name announcing. The dumbass misannounces the Great SASUKE name everytime Ultimo Dragon comes out to wrestle. He says SASKE. IT'S SAUKE, MORON!! There's a U in the name. FIRE HIM NOW!!

I hate to sound like a Michael Cole apologist, but I think that he's making a literal attempt at the Japanese pronunciation. He's trying to say SASuke (strong emphasis on the first syllable). Most would pronounce it saSOOkay, and I think he's trying to show some sort of smarky street cred or something.

For that, though, he's got nothing on Josh Matthews, who has brought up Zero-One in the past in addition to referring to Jamie Noble as Jamie "By God" Noble.

EDIt: Oh snap! I just breezed right by RKMtwin's post where he covered this topic just fine. Whoops, sorry!

(edited by SchippeWreck on 13.7.03 2214)


RKMtwin
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#19 Posted on
It's all good!




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uberlou
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#20 Posted on

    Originally posted by SchippeWreck

    For that, though, he's got nothing on Josh Matthews, who has brought up Zero-One in the past in addition to referring to Jamie Noble as Jamie "By God" Noble.

    EDIt: Oh snap! I just breezed right by RKMtwin's post where he covered this topic just fine. Whoops, sorry!

    (edited by SchippeWreck on 13.7.03 2214)




Josh has been throwing out the puro terms left and right. He called the "roaring elbow" when Brian Danielson/American Dragon used it in his Velocity match.

My favorite thus far though is the "Momo Latch"(is that right?) that Spanky busted out 3-4 weeks ago. He said Spanky learned it from a joshi wrestler but I have no idea who.





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