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Recently in the NFL world we saw Jerry Jones hire Bill Parcels. Everyone is saying that this will eventually implode due to both wanting total control over the situation. Others are surprised that Jones "swallowed his pride" and hired a very good football coach and football guy in general, because they imply that this is Jerry admitting he needs help getting his team on track. In the wrestling world Vince McMahon's once mighty franchise seems to be crumbling around him. Do you think it is time for Vince to do what Jerry did? In essence get rid of the people that are clearly not capable of doing a good job (Gerwitz, and Steph to an extent) and hand the reigns over to someone that can bail them out (I'm not too familiar with writers so I have no suggestions here). In all sports, if a team is not doing well, someone is held accountable, usually the coach, and changes are made to correct the mistake. I equate the head writer to a coach, and I think that if the team (the WWE) is not performing up to expectations then the writer/booker should be held accountable, no matter how bad this may look Vince look. I would have more respect for Vince for admitting he was wrong then if he stuck to his guns with people that are costing him money.




Thank you Lord....for giving me the strength....to beat the crap out of that man and damn near kill him with my bare hands!
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Yes but he's never gonna get rid of his daughter. He doesn't have the grapefruits to put it in his words.
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Here's the thing about the analogy. Jerry Jones is a football owner, who knows some about the game, but not nearly enough to be a coach, and he knows this. Bill Parcells has proved himself as an elite coach by being successful with three teams, two of which he took to Super Bowls. If Vince wanted to find a writer who was a proven genius in terms of booking a wrestling federation and being a TV writer, to whom would he turn?

You can't name a booker or ex-promoter who has had more success in this country than Vince McMahon. If instead he turned to a TV writer with a good track record, there's no guarantee that the writer would understand how to work with the genre constraints of wrestling. I tremble at the thought of a David E. Kelley booked WWE.

I might be wrong, but isn't almost all of the creative team the same people who were running the show in 2000 when the WWF was at its peak? Is there anyone out there who has shown they can top that?

The problems in WWE aren't from a lack of trying, but from a series of bad decisions that they believed were the best choices to make at the time. And making what they thought were their best decisions is also what took them to the top in the first place, so whaddya gonna do?
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    Originally posted by Mandark
    Here's the thing about the analogy. Jerry Jones is a football owner, who knows some about the game, but not nearly enough to be a coach, and he knows this. Bill Parcells has proved himself as an elite coach by being successful with three teams, two of which he took to Super Bowls. If Vince wanted to find a writer who was a proven genius in terms of booking a wrestling federation and being a TV writer, to whom would he turn?

    You can't name a booker or ex-promoter who has had more success in this country than Vince McMahon. If instead he turned to a TV writer with a good track record, there's no guarantee that the writer would understand how to work with the genre constraints of wrestling. I tremble at the thought of a David E. Kelley booked WWE.

    I might be wrong, but isn't almost all of the creative team the same people who were running the show in 2000 when the WWF was at its peak? Is there anyone out there who has shown they can top that?

    The problems in WWE aren't from a lack of trying, but from a series of bad decisions that they believed were the best choices to make at the time. And making what they thought were their best decisions is also what took them to the top in the first place, so whaddya gonna do?



Even in football though, when a coach that has had some success just can't seem to get the job done anymore, that coach can still be let go. Lok at Marty Schottenheimer in KC. A possibility is to have one of the underling writers (equal to a coordinator in football) to jump in and take the reigns. Like I stated, I dont know of anyone off the top of my head that is a good wrier. And I'm not saying replace Vince as a promoter, I'm saying to get some new writers with new ideas that can push the company in a different direction that may have more success than it is currently experiencing.



Thank you Lord....for giving me the strength....to beat the crap out of that man and damn near kill him with my bare hands!
-David Alan Grier discussing post boxing match interviews
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From the season 4 roster it seems as though they don't want to waste anyone of any serious value on the concept. Where's Tyler Black or Consequences Creed?
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