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There is an short, interesting article in today's San Jose Mercury News about steroids, baseball and wrestling with quotes from Meltzer.

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/sports/9963106.htm

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Very interesting article. I remember Meltzer's figure of pro-wrestling deaths since 1997 for guys under 45 (97!) being questioned in the past because he apparently included a lot of "weekend warriors", guys who only wrestled indy shows a couple times a month, but that's still a crazy number.

I also never realized that only bodybuilders had been using steroids longer that wrestlers, but I guess it makes sense. It just never occured to me.



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I just noticed that column this morning while cleaning up the previous day's paper. 97 in less than ten years IS a scary statistic, though I guess I've had that general impression for a while now. When every wrestler's obit other than Freddie Blassie's gives an age well under 50, it's not hard to do the math.

I used to think that alcoholics were the quintessential example of early drug deaths; I've read a lot of obits for actors and musicians who died before 60. But I guess not.

At least I am now somewhat educated on the visible effects and internal problems of steroids, so if I later see anything suspicious in my sons or their friends I'll have some idea of what to warn them against. Not that teenagers
tend to care much about possibly dying at the ancient age of 42, but their parents just might sit up and pay attention.

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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    Very interesting article. I remember Meltzer's figure of pro-wrestling deaths since 1997 for guys under 45 (97!) being questioned in the past because he apparently included a lot of "weekend warriors", guys who only wrestled indy shows a couple times a month, but that's still a crazy number.

    I also never realized that only bodybuilders had been using steroids longer that wrestlers, but I guess it makes sense. It just never occured to me.


As pointed out in the article its not so much the Steroids alone but the combination of other intoxicants in the body as well.

http://www.deansplanet.com/deadwrestler.html

has a list of wrestlers who have died and the litany of ''drug related'' is what would scare me the most.

To do a more accurate study I think you would need to compare body builders who IMO have a more healthier outlook on life( big statement and one that can be shot down)

We hear so much about Eddie Guerrero and his possible slide back to a life uncontrolled and then you look at the life wrestlers lead and its go go go..yes I understand they have a choice.. but like boxers who take a dive for Don sometimes the choices arent that clear.

It doesnt have to be a name to matter either..dead indy wrestlers are still dead wrestlers



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First of all, referring to wrestling as a "test-tube" of what could happen in baseball suggests it's okay for wrestlers to die but baseball players actually matter. Which pisses me off.

Also, I would suggest that the core point here really is steroids in conjuction with other substances. Davey Boy Smith, Curt Hennig, Brian Pillman, Louie Spicolli, Hawk all used steroids and painkillers and booze and sleeping pills and cocaine. Suggesting that there is no difference between doing that and just taking steroids on a logical cycle is absurdist philosophy.

Now, I'm not meaning to state here that steroids are harmless, but the people who rely on them today, in bodybuilding particularly, know how to do in the safest way possible and with the fewest side effects. I think steroids, in this day and age, can be manipulated into being a reasonably safe performance-booster if cycled properly. If you take them every day for twenty years, you're going to have trouble. But most people on them today would never do that.



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