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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.13
Anyone catch when Taker was doing his pose afterwards, when he was watching the fireworks, it looked like he mouthed "That's too much.." and the look in his eyes was like he didn't deserve it. I can picture him going back and getting on Vince for going overboard for him. Either way, kinda cool.
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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.76
The John Cena fallout and the Tensai-Train debut have me feeling pretty interested in RAW tonight.
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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.94
What was up with Taker's outfit? Was that his audition as Shredder in Bay's Turtles movie? Nash was backstage to give him pointers if needed.

I saw the Jericho head scratch too. Made my friend rewind the Tivo just to be sure that was what it was. Reminds me of Y2J smiling at Flair after he pushed over Stacy Keibler in the musical chair on RAW.

Was Cena corpsing with that taunt before the People's Elbow attempt?

I though outloud after the first match "The internet is going to cry."

The "Cell" match was just a No-DQ/No Holds Barded match. I was hoping that when little Natch ran in they'd go out the door.

During the Clay segment I really wanted Brock to return, lay out Clay, and end that gimick once and for all.
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.90
    Originally posted by Hokienautic
      Originally posted by spf
      Yes, Lesnar debuted 4/2/02, taking out the Hardy Boyz.


    Funny, Wikipedia says: "Lesnar debuted on WWF television on the March 18, 2002 episode of Raw, the night after WrestleMania X8, coming through the crowd and attacking Al Snow, Maven, and Spike Dudley during the course of a match."

    Edit: Thread on The W - http://the-w.com/​brock-​lesnar

    (edited by Hokienautic on 2.4.12 1544)

Well that's my mistake for listening to lotjx then. Hell, 4/2/02 isn't even a Monday.



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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.10
    Originally posted by spf
      Originally posted by Hokienautic
        Originally posted by spf
        Yes, Lesnar debuted 4/2/02, taking out the Hardy Boyz.


      Funny, Wikipedia says: "Lesnar debuted on WWF television on the March 18, 2002 episode of Raw, the night after WrestleMania X8, coming through the crowd and attacking Al Snow, Maven, and Spike Dudley during the course of a match."

      Edit: Thread on The W - http://the-w.com/​​brock-​​lesnar

      (edited by Hokienautic on 2.4.12 1544)

    Well that's my mistake for listening to lotjx then. Hell, 4/2/02 isn't even a Monday.


Hey, don't be shocked when its called ten years tonight or anything to do about WM X-8 tonight. WWE plays fast and loose with time and space just like the Doctor.



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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.70
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Hey, don't be shocked when its called ten years tonight or anything to do about WM X-8 tonight. WWE plays fast and loose with time and space just like the Doctor.


My pet peeve: When WWE says it's the "25th anniversary" or whatever, when it's the 25th edition. They did this for WrestleMania and the Rumble. WrestleMania 25 was only the 24th *anniversary* of WrestleMania. Dumases.
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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by Eradicator
    See, I never really understood when people say that Wrestlemania should wrap up story lines and that it has traditionally been the culmination of the WWE's year. Outside of special matches to me it has always seemed to be the first match in the feud with the rematches afterwards. And I am not just talking about in the days since the monthly pay per views- if you look at feuds like Hogan/Savage they had their "first" match at Wrestlemania and that kicked off months of rematches both on house shows and PPVs (well, if you count bad tag matches with Brutus Beefcake). I just can't think of a lot of examples where Wrestlemania was the "end" and things started anew unless someone was a guest, left the company or retired from injury. I have always looked at Wrrestlemania as the start to the main meat of the story with the months before being the prologue.
Sort of.

Hogan/Andre may have continued past WrestleMania III, but the definitive moment in that feud, and the culmination of the buildup was still their "first" encounter at WrestleMania III. That match made the definitive statement in that feud. After WM3, they continued to build off of it, based off the original buildup, to the sequel, the rematch, that eventually happened on SNME and again at WMIV. And they did it until it got tired and Hogan was moved on to DiBiase and eventually Savage, or whoever.

Feuds don't necessarily end for good at WrestleMania, but it is usually the decisive event. Even though Hogan/Andre continued after WM3, I still don't look at that match as "The Beginning" of anything. I look at it as THE match that defined those two at that time.
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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
I loved this show. By itself, but especially when compared to how indifferent I felt last year after Wrestlemania 27. The World Heavyweight Championship had really gotten lost in the WM buildup anyways, so I'm not surprised to see it so neglected. I have a feeling that Sheamus and Bryan will have plenty of chances to shine in Mania down the road.

I thought this year's version of Taker/HHH was better than last years. Taker telling Shawn not to stop it, and HHH met the same end HBK did at the end of his second try was great. I'm also secure enough in my manhood to admit that the hug at the top of the stage had me tearing up big time.

I really did go in thinking Punk/Jericho would steal the show. They didn't, but, still put on a great show. I really think that Punk has continued to carry the flag well as champion since The Summer of Punk. Jericho looked like he was battling ring rust a little bit. I still think it could have gone without the stuff with Punk's family.

Rock/Cena was exactly what I thought it was, but I'm still surprised that Cena ended up eating the pin. I was telling my friend who was watching with me that I wonder if Cena's new Celtic-style shirt, hours after the Celtics rolled the Heat did anything to play up the heel heat he received.






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#49 Posted on
Just got back from Miami. Some of the snark on here is pretty surprising (though not "welcome to the Internet, is this your first time?" surprising)... perhaps it was the hot crowd where I was sitting, the amazing staging put together for this event, or just the fact that this card was stronger than last year - but I LOVED this Wrestlemania.

Triple H/Undertaker was one of the best matches I've ever seen. Not for it's Benoit/Guerrero level of workmanship, but the sheer brilliance in the storytelling. I didn't love last year's match, but I feel compelled to watch it again now just to compare. Amazing match, the atmosphere was amazing, and the "This is awesome" chant was well-deserved.

Crowd was HOT for Bryan. Surprisingly so, and Sheamus got a good bit of heel heat as well. The twist was definitely shocking, and while I would have loved to have watched Bryan get his day in the sun I do think there's no way he doesn't maintain a really strong push coming out of this. There's no way Vince didn't hear the crowd in the back half of the night chanting "YES! YES!"

Rock/Cena, for as much as I enjoyed the pageantry of it, was a dull match live. Maybe the commentary helped (though highly doubtful), but I just can not fathom how in the HELL a main event guy, of similar stature to his opponent, breaks out a bear hug 3 times. Once even while Rock was lying on the mat. THREE. TIMES. This isn't 1988, and Cena's not the Bossman. There's no reason that move is in the main event of a match booked a year in advance and it doesn't kill the crowd. And it almost did. Hot ending, and right guy went over for the story overall. This isn't over - but the crowd left happy.

Jericho/Punk was great after a slow start. And I don't know what happened, but are people saying Living Colour was live? Was that a joke? Because I missed that part, completely.

Funkasaurus was fun and in the right spot. Divas match was quiet enough to hear a pin drop in SunLife. The rest was a lot of filler.

That all said - amazing time and I'm glad I went. History will be kind to this Mania, whereas it will be justifiably cruel to 27. See you all at 29 for sure, after last night.
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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.59
Speaking as a fan who follows the backstage story behind the in-ring stories, that was discouraging to deny the big stage to one of the two top technical wrestlers on the card like they did. (And Sheamus too) Credit to the crowd for continuing to chant for Bryan through a pedestrian first hour.

Guess I'm in the minority for not liking Taker/HHH so much, while I was a big fan of their effort last year. I got past Taker's "Little Beaver" haircut quick enough, but they really didn't make use of the Cell as would have befit the finale for the two men that made their careers on the gimmick. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a superior WWE 'Main Event Style' brawl - but at the same time it felt to me like the "same old sh-t" from last years match. Which was 15-20 minutes of big strikes while I was waiting for them to start kicking out of each others' finishers. And then taking it over the top with Taker kicking out of the SCM/Pedigree combo. And then taking it further over the top with an exhausted Taker kicking out of sledgehammer shots twice.

If Taker goes out on that match, and we don't see HHH in the ring for a couple of years, I guess I can see why they did it, but for this event it really burned me out for the false finishes in Punk/Jericho and Rock/Cena. (Alas, I get the feeling that 'End of an Era' includes JR at the mic.)

Johnny Ace didn't get two minutes past Gorilla position to start tossing his weight around, but I think they wanted to deal with the 'yo daddy/yo sister' stuff so Punk and Jericho could get down to the match they wanted to tell all along. I smiled like Fred Savage at the end of "Princess Bride" when Jericho tapped. That was a hugely cool series of moves, counters and reversals.

(I didn't see a live band for Punk's entrance either.)

And as for putting Rock over in the end, it was counter-intuitive booking, but made the most sense for Cena's character. We'll see what he does with losing the biggest match of his life, the one he HAD to win. It's False was dead solid perfect in pointing out that Rock's crappy sharpshooter looked halfway decent as last night you were comparing it to Cena's sh-tty STF. And kudos to Rock for putting in the effort to prepare enough to make a credible return - seems inevitable he'll be back someday, and now positioned off this win to give someone a hell of a rub.

I didn't see what they could do with Cena the conquering hero other than going right back to WWE Championship feuds.. I'm sure tonight will be fallout from last night, but now that Rock goes away for at least awhile, Cena has to come to grips with the loss, while Punk just affirmed himself as "Best in the World".

I wonder if Cena might take a month off, assuming Jericho will be back for an Extreme Rules match in Chicago - but then again you'll never get a better crowd if they want to pull the trigger on a heel turn. Though you can just as easily go with a slow burn and wait till SummerSlam for the big moment.

(Edit: And -20 points to Cena for botching the 'peer slowly back and forth' nod Rock was trying to give to his match with Hogan in Toronto.)

(edited by TheOldMan on 2.4.12 1756)


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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.45
I watched at a Buffalo Wild Wings and Ron Simmons got a crazy loud reaction when he said "Damn!" There was a wait for it silence .......then eruption of cheers when he said it.

It was nice to see the crowd (where I was) turn on Orton and cheer Kane.

I had the kids with me on a school night, so we had to leave at 9:30 - I was psyched that the Cell match went as early as it was. They took a re-run match from last year that sounded blah back when it was announced and made it once of the most dramatic ever. That's about as good as it gets. A Mick Foley cameo might have worked, considering his history with each guy in the cage.
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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.79
    Originally posted by GRL
    I just can not fathom how in the HELL a main event guy, of similar stature to his opponent, breaks out a bear hug 3 times. Once even while Rock was lying on the mat. THREE. TIMES. This isn't 1988, and Cena's not the Bossman. There's no reason that move is in the main event of a match booked a year in advance and it doesn't kill the crowd.


Rock had blown up and they were going 30 so he needed some time to recombobulate. Not sure the clarity of the Titantrons but on TV Rock was looking a bit Menounos'd there for a second. Story pushed in commentary was also that Rock had injured his ribs taking his first bump over the top IIRC.
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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.86
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro

      Originally posted by TriPro
      Maria was pretty bad (I think she was better in her Raw match?) but it is what it is.


    Maria looked legit near-death after her first spots. She has two broken ribs and couldn't wear any kind of padding on them cuz she had to be a sexy female lady. When she tagged out she couldn't even stand upright on the apron. Then when she had to get on the top rope she looked like she was going to pass out.

    Match was bad, match length was bad, who beat who was bad, getting framed for pooping her pants was bad, but I can't say Maria is anything but a peach.



I take back my negativity towards Maria. I'm of the opinion that when they know going in to a match that someone is injured, that the match can be structured to hide or nulify that injury as much as possible. That's the big advantage to being a scripted match. None of the problems with the match were Maria's fault. She could have backed out with two broken ribs and I don't think anyone would have blamed her. She did more than what was asked of her.

I'm still not sure why the Undertaker decided to shave his head to look like Puck from Glee, but whatever. I gotta mention, when Taker was coming down doing his entrance, I was picturing John O. nudging people around him saying "I got a picture with him".
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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.82
I loved this show. But that might be because I was severely disappointed in last year's effort.

In retrospect, I don't have a problem with the Bryan-Sheamus outcome. Works for both characters and should lead to more DBry awesomeness.

Taker-HHH was better than last year's effort. Last year was good. But the story told this year was phenomenal. Taker looked to be in much better shape, and the cell prevented him from diving over the top rope and landing on his head for the fourth straight year. They should have done the same wordless build as last year.

Punk-Jericho was fantastic.

And I really fucking hate Smilin' John Cena. Pretend like there is some gravity to the situation. I just don't know what it will take for him to realize that he ruins most segments by not being able to stay serious. I don't know how he managed to fuck up the Hogan-Rock reaction spot, but he did.

As I get progressively more irrationally pissed about certain parts of the show, it is now time to mention Beth Phoenix. What. The. Fuck. Was that headdress? I've also never understood why she actively tries to look like an early American Gladiator. The current Beth has no personality other than angry roid woman. And for all the talk of her being a good worker, that was possibly the worst turnbuckle sell I have seen. I guess I'm missing something.

Bellas looked phenomenal.

(edited by Stefonics on 2.4.12 2131)


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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.52
I thought UT's hair was a pretty clear Travis Bickle/TAXI DRIVER homage.
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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.60
    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo
    Biggest shock of the night was Orton losing. Orton got lost in the shuffle with the return of Rock and Jericho and the rise of Punk and Sheamus, so I figured he'd at least get to destroy Kane. Plus he lost CLEAN. Very odd. Wonder if there is any backstage heat?



Wade Keller said this at the end of the match during his running Wrestlemania blog:

"A minute later Kane finished Orton with a second rope chokeslam. That'll teach Orton to publicly say mandatory systematic time off for wrestlers in WWE is seeming like a better idea all the time. I'm just guessing, but his push has been different ever since he said that a few months back."







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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
Watched Hell In A Cell again, this time with the volume turned way up. The crowd was as hot for this match as HBK/Taker from Mania 25. Probably all things considered - match, spectacle, setting, the post match - one of the greatest Wrestlemania moments ever. Taker did look genuinely emotional after the match and had tears in his eyes.



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#58 Posted on

I'm a little late to the party on the WM thread ...

This one will always have a special place in my heart because it's the first one that I've watched live as it happens with my son (he's 6 & is turning into a WWE fanatic).

my random thoughts ...

I do think the Bryan/Sheamus thing was BS ... and I'm not one of those ROH marks who claimed Bryan got screwed ... I just thought those two could have a solid opening match ...

and there's no way that the pre-show tag titles match shouldn't have been squeezed onto the main show ... a lot of nice, fast-paced action that could've easily been the 2nd match of the night ...

Cell match ... one of the best matches from a storytelling perspective that I've seen in a long time ...

The final 2 matches were really solid ... started slow & really built up throughout ...

and the live music sucked balls. were Saliva or Papa Roach busy or something?
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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.90
Take this with a very large grain of salt, but Gus Ramsey, ESPN producer and frequent Bill Simmons contributor, tweeted today that he hears WWE is looking at 1.9 million buys as a prelim number for WM 28. If true that would be WAY above their most optimistic numbers.

https://twitter.com/#!/GusRamsey/status/187214604840083456



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#60 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.59
There isn't enough salt in the world to put on that buyrate.



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