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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
I'm still sad that Josh Matthews had to eat a Stunner.
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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
I thought that Orton/Punk and HHH/Taker were the only bright spots of the card.

-What the hell was up with Cena? He was botching stuff so bad that Lawler and King were trying to sell that he had an injury. Looked REALLY lame after HHH and UT were MURDERING each other to have Cena acting like he was dead 5 minutes in.

-I thought that "For Whom The Bell Tolls" was gonna be Taker's entrance, and it would make for a hell of a good theme for him.

-They blew Cole Vs Lawler. Any of the predictions on this board were better than what they did. Austin overshadowed Lawler as I feared.

-Unless Rock is getting in the ring, the main event ending was as dumb as anything TNA does. Putting a non-wrestler over your biggest name and the champ. Not that I give a crap about Miz, because he's overrated as hell, but it isn't smart business.
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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.05
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by lotjx
      Lastly, I think the reason for not using the piledriver was due to the Taker/HHH where it became a huge part of that match.


    I think the move looks stronger if it finishes an earlier match. If Cole suffers the move and loses, it makes Taker and Hunter look stronger if they can compete after taking a similar, yet stronger move. While a Tombstone is similar to a piledriver, I still consider it a deadlier maneuver compared to a standard piledriver.

    Also, it would demonstrate just how angry Lawler was at the indignities Cole dished out in the past month. He uses the flying punch in every match. Consider how Taker put away Shawn in their match last year. He used a LEAPING Tombstone to punctuate just how riled up he was. That's what Lawler should have demonstrated.


If they were going to have Lawler go over then yes, I would agree. Yet, Lawler didn't and its better not to use it now. I do understand what you are saying about using the piledriver earlier and to some extent I sorta agree, but HHH using the piledriver is probably the better way to go even if Lawler went over. Booker T's stunner was a thing of beauty. The entire PPV was built around Rock, so I am ok with it. Plus, the crowd only seem to give a shit about him anyway, so you might as well give them something they want ie Rock kicking ass.



(edited by lotjx on 4.4.11 1547)

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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.71
    Originally posted by lotjx
    they were going to have Lawler go over then yes, I would agree. Yet, Lawler didn't and its better not to use it now. I do understand what you are saying about using the piledriver earlier and to some extent I sorta agree, but HHH using the piledriver is probably the better way to go even if Lawler went over.


Yep I'm with all this. Lawler and the piledriver is as simple as they wanted to protect it for the big moment in HHH/Taker, and since the program is continuing (yay?) it leaves something else nasty that can still happen to Cole in the next, hopefully decisive match.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    A couple of things I would like to address. One, I don't think it would make sense for Rock to jump in after Riley interfered. It made more sense for him as the Guest Host to restart the match. He didn't want Cena to win, so why help him fight off Riley?


I meant the Riley spot just as the logical entry point to come out. He didn't need a hosting responsibility reason to come out because he already had issues with both guys and had already vowed to smackdown layeth them. Starting by fighting Miz and then surprise! Rock Bottom on Cena when they turned into each other at the end of a series of choreographed big spots involving everybody would've fit within the flow of the match (in fact saved it, since it had none) and not killed all the momentum.
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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo


    -What the hell was up with Cena? He was botching stuff so bad that Lawler and King were trying to sell that he had an injury. Looked REALLY lame after HHH and UT were MURDERING each other to have Cena acting like he was dead 5 minutes in.




I must agree. It looked like Cena could barely stand. He kept falling oddly and doing weird stuff, like he was sick or confused. Is he being emo about how he's being booked or something?



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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.71
Lawler and Ross were alluding to a head injury but I thought it was just to eventually give him an out when he lost. Maybe he did bonk his head. I don't really care to rewatch.
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#47 Posted on
    Originally posted by Parts Unknown
      Originally posted by Scottyflamingo


      -What the hell was up with Cena? He was botching stuff so bad that Lawler and King were trying to sell that he had an injury. Looked REALLY lame after HHH and UT were MURDERING each other to have Cena acting like he was dead 5 minutes in.




    I must agree. It looked like Cena could barely stand. He kept falling oddly and doing weird stuff, like he was sick or confused. Is he being emo about how he's being booked or something?



I have a wild theory about this. I think he is sick of going to the biggest stage of the year and not getting the reaction he expects. Shouldn't The Rock be the biggest heel in the company now for taking out the hero John Cena? All I kept thinking through the final minutes of the match is how much of a dick The Rock has been. John Cena has been right about The Rock the whole time (but saying it wrong except for the last week) and The Rock has been wrong (but saying it the right way.)



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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
    Originally posted by RecklessEric
      Originally posted by Parts Unknown
        Originally posted by Scottyflamingo


        -What the hell was up with Cena? He was botching stuff so bad that Lawler and King were trying to sell that he had an injury. Looked REALLY lame after HHH and UT were MURDERING each other to have Cena acting like he was dead 5 minutes in.




      I must agree. It looked like Cena could barely stand. He kept falling oddly and doing weird stuff, like he was sick or confused. Is he being emo about how he's being booked or something?



    I have a wild theory about this. I think he is sick of going to the biggest stage of the year and not getting the reaction he expects. Shouldn't The Rock be the biggest heel in the company now for taking out the hero John Cena? All I kept thinking through the final minutes of the match is how much of a dick The Rock has been. John Cena has been right about The Rock the whole time (but saying it wrong except for the last week) and The Rock has been wrong (but saying it the right way.)


I was expecting Cena to interrupt the People's Elbow and beat the hell out of Rock. Strangely, that would've probably given him more face heat than he got all night.
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#49 Posted on
I gave the show a 'thumbs in the middle/leaning up'. Sounds like people who didn't like it didn't get enough wrestling to suit them, but that wasn't going to be this show given the card that was set up. (Though losing Sheamus/Bryan is a legit gripe. I just don't see what match you take off in its place if you have a time crunch - the 8-man is the only one that comes to mind, and all that was for was to pop the crowd with the Cobra, and get off in 5 minutes.) The show wasn't helped by the poor miking of the crowd, I don't *think they were that dead.

The show was sold in large part with The Rock, and they had to give him his time to give those customers their money's worth. I also found the comedy bits worthy, and they gave a lot of extra paydays, which is generally a good thing.

Onto the particulars:

Poor ADR, destiny denied. But I figured that was good news for Miz. Good match followed, with Rey doing his best for Cody - but now Rhodes needs both a continued push, and to develop his new character against new opponents.

Orton, Orton, Orton - why does he get the pops he does? I'm sure I heard Cole take a shot at him for not selling the knee toward the end of the match, which he naturally wins out of nowhere after getting beaten down for 20 minutes. He's like DDP (diamond cutter) without the likability. And like Jake Roberts (slithery character) without the psychology. And like Benoit (intensity) without the technical ability. Punk carried him like a champ here.

Cole/Lawler looks like it was made to set up a Raw rematch for the payoff. My only question is do they also blowoff the GM reveal tonight, or stretch that out for awhile. I think you have to separate Cole and Lawler as an announce team when this is all over. Would have been much better as someone mentioned above if Lawler could have hit the piledriver. (That also would have been a much better reason for the GM to reverse the decision in the end.)

Taker/HHH was a great match the way Hogan/Andre was a great match. It was the stature, presence and history of the participants that made it great, not so much the actual wrestling. (And that's in no way a knock, great match for what it was.) It's all set for a rematch next year if HHH wants a retirement angle.

SNOOKI!! Who'dve thunk it?? She's a Hall of Famer to be for that move. And it served its purpose for getting the mainstream attention.

I was glad to see they let Miz retain, he needs the belt/WM win so much more than Cena does. And the eventual finish left most of the crowd happy. Whether it's over the next few months, or not until next WrestleMania, they certainly didn't discourage anyone from thinking Rock/Cena is unfinished business.

Let's see how the GM feels about Rock not caring what the GM thinks tonight... Bet it doesn't matter to Rock.



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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.02
    Originally posted by TheOldMan
    I gave the show a 'thumbs in the middle/leaning up'. Sounds like people who didn't like it didn't get enough wrestling to suit them, but that wasn't going to be this show given the card that was set up. (Though losing Sheamus/Bryan is a legit gripe. I just don't see what match you take off in its place if you have a time crunch - the 8-man is the only one that comes to mind, and all that was for was to pop the crowd with the Cobra, and get off in 5 minutes.) The show wasn't helped by the poor miking of the crowd, I don't *think they were that dead.

    The show was sold in large part with The Rock, and they had to give him his time to give those customers their money's worth. I also found the comedy bits worthy, and they gave a lot of extra paydays, which is generally a good thing.



If they have a time crunch and have to cut matches short or take them off the card because something went long, I can understand. My problem here is that they KNEW going in about all the stuff that they had planned and canned the Sheamus/Bryan match the day before. I don't even really care that I didn't get to see it, it bothers me more to know how disorganized they really are. This is their "Superbowl", and they seemed to put all the planning into it of a high school drama project. Taking any match that has been advertised as being on the PPV and putting it on the pre-show instead (and then not even having it) seems very unprofessional and dare I say, TNA-like.

The comedy bits are fine for free tv, but no one paid to see Snoop Dogg or Pee-Wee Herman do that stuff. While getting guys an extra pay day (I'm not sure how much they'll make, if a defending World Champ can only get 87K, I can't see Beth Phoenix taking home a whole lot for singing Grease songs) at the end of the day the quality of the show can't suffer because of it, and in this case it did.

It was a weird promotion being that they focused around a former wrestling who was not going to be wrestling during the show, but you could have taken out his 10 min opening ramble, the Pee-Wee Herman segment, cut the openings of Cena and Miz down to reasonable levels (and put those videos on last Monday where they might actually accomplish something in getting people to buy the show) and had plently of time for an extra match or two.

I guess the problem they have now based on all reviews I've seen is they swung the pendulum and focused on doing "Sports Entertainment" show with wrestling rather than a wrestling show with Sports Entertainment parts. They tried to ween people off of expecting Wrestling at Wrestlemania, and it left a lot of people feeling like they paid a lot of money for a mess.
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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.05
    Originally posted by RecklessEric
      Originally posted by Parts Unknown
        Originally posted by Scottyflamingo


        -What the hell was up with Cena? He was botching stuff so bad that Lawler and King were trying to sell that he had an injury. Looked REALLY lame after HHH and UT were MURDERING each other to have Cena acting like he was dead 5 minutes in.




      I must agree. It looked like Cena could barely stand. He kept falling oddly and doing weird stuff, like he was sick or confused. Is he being emo about how he's being booked or something?



    I have a wild theory about this. I think he is sick of going to the biggest stage of the year and not getting the reaction he expects. Shouldn't The Rock be the biggest heel in the company now for taking out the hero John Cena? All I kept thinking through the final minutes of the match is how much of a dick The Rock has been. John Cena has been right about The Rock the whole time (but saying it wrong except for the last week) and The Rock has been wrong (but saying it the right way.)


Rock is the face, because the fans want him to be the face. Nothing against you, but I am so sick of hearing about Cena is the uber face of this company when its clear he is not. If he was the uber face, he won't be getting booed out of the building the last two times he faced Rock. Cena sells a lot of merch, does a lot of great things for make a wish and I personally like the guy, but the uber face of the company is either Orton, Edge, weirdly enough Santino. Santino is loved by the fans and he got booked last minute by the WWE, because they feel he does a lot of great work. Cena maybe the best seller for merch, but he is not loved by the fans only certain parts of it. I would also point out for the hundredth time, Cena cheap shot Rock on Raw and pretty much proved Rock right with Cena not being man enough to face him man to man. Rock in my opinion saved a rather terrible Mania and gave it a few good moments to make it passable.

(edited by lotjx on 4.4.11 1928)


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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.59
I'm with the collective opinion largely, but I was really digging Cena/Miz before the DCOR. I thought the videos made the match feel like a big deal, and that feeling lasted for me as they were chain-wrestling and staring at each other meaningfully. I also thought there were some great spots in it, like the mechanics of how the buckle pad got removed (with the ref seeing it, replacing the pad, but stopping to do the count, at which point Riley stole and hid the pad), and I really liked Riley smashing Cena's face into the pad directly into the SCF. But yeah, the ending was right stupid and could have had similar accomplishments via 10-15 different methods.



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#53 Posted on
    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
    My problem here is that they KNEW going in about all the stuff that they had planned and canned the Sheamus/Bryan match the day before.


Hey, I wanted to see the match too. But you couldn't cut the championship matches, Taker's match, Snooki's match, King's match, Cody's match, or Orton's match. (And they sold the show based on a heaping helping of Rock.) Hopefully Sheamus and Bryan will be given a priority to work their program into a PPV match at Extreme Rules.


    The comedy bits are fine for free tv, but no one paid to see Snoop Dogg or Pee-Wee Herman do that stuff. While getting guys an extra pay day (I'm not sure how much they'll make..)


Wrestlemania has a bit of a history for celebrity involvement, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear later that Snoop was there just to watch the show, and was used. Can't speak about what the payouts are, but I imagine even an extra thousand or two doesn't hurt for the midcarders.


    It was a weird promotion being that they focused around a former wrestling who was not going to be wrestling during the show, but you could have taken out his 10 min opening ramble, the Pee-Wee Herman segment, cut the openings of Cena and Miz down to reasonable levels (and put those videos on last Monday where they might actually accomplish something in getting people to buy the show) and had plently of time for an extra match or two.

    I guess the problem they have now based on all reviews I've seen is they swung the pendulum and focused on doing "Sports Entertainment" show with wrestling rather than a wrestling show with Sports Entertainment parts.


You kind of answer your own criticism here, they DID focus the build of the show around a former star. So it's logical that former star would be featured in said show, right? The show did lean well toward the "entertainment" and away from the "wrestling", but that's not new. You can certainly criticize them for balancing the product like they do, but I'm not sure you can be surprised about it anymore.

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Oh yes, was Cena doing a Jeff Hardy tribute in that match?

I did like JR breaking out his "addled" description. I'm torn if it means anything, or if Cena really did catch a hardway early on. It was either that, or a really bad way to 'excuse' his eventual loss. (It sure didn't make Miz look any better in victory.)



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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.98
Maybe I'm being too easy on the show. Maybe my judgment is clouded because I was in a bar full of drunken fans that responded to virtually everything (and I wasn't totally sober, either). Or maybe it's clouded because the DirecTV feed in the bar cut out the middle five minutes or so of Lawler/Cole. But I thought this was a very good show.

-In increasing order of excellence, Rey/Cody, Orton/Punk and Edge/ADR were all excellent matches. The heels in all three were fucking incredible (especially Punk) and in the latter two, the psychology was very good. As mentioned here, Cody's delayed superplex was unbelievable.

-I started off not caring for Taker/HHH at all, until I realized what they were doing. And at that point (when Taker was trying to do the zombie sit-up and couldn't) I gained a whole new level of appreciation not only for the match, but for the Undertaker character. Justin's layout of this is great.

Also, they had me with HHH's tombstone on Taker. I really, really thought that was it.

-As I said, I missed a good chunk of Lawler/Cole, so I can't judge it fairly, but I got a nice kick out of karma biting Lawler in the ass, after what happened at SummerSlam '93.

-If Taker/HHH wasn't going to go on last, then the Snooki match was the perfect candidate to go in the dead spot. I, along with everyone around me, reacted pretty loudly to Snooki's offense (and JoMo's Starship Pain to the outside).

-I pretty much echo hansen9j's opinions on the main event.

-Visual presentation does not make an event, but it doesn't hurt. They outdo themselves every year with the stage design. It was gorgeous this year. And the entrances for HHH, Cena and Miz were top-notch.

This wasn't the best WM, but the way some here are ranking it is a little harsh.



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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73

First off, as for this being a bottom Mania, I think it'll go down as a "meh" 'Mania, but nothing comes close to XI for my vote as hands down the worst 'Mania of all time. Even the good match on that show was totally forgettable and nothing else was even okay. I also seem to be the only person alive who thought IV was a good show with only one major booking mistake (sending Steamboat out in the 1st round).

I would put Orton/Punk as the best match with HHH/Taker a close second. I get the criticisms of the Trips-Callous Affair but at the same time I feel like not enough consideration is being given to the fact that Taker is crippled. All accounts are he has a shoulder problem that is basically "will never heal properly" territory and hasn't worked much in the way of so much as a dark match and still executed a four-and-a-half foot vertical leap over those ropes to do the dive. Yes, I concur there was too much stalling, but Triple H loves him some stalling. Remember the HITC with Shawn. The rest was coasting on reputation. I hated Taker's frustration at not putting Hunter away as it was utterly inconsistent with his smug scoff on last week's RAW. It did what it could, but Triple H's last truly great match remains 2008's No Mercy against Jeff Hardy where he went over for no good reason.

ADR didn't go over and shouldn't have. Didn't mind the placing as nothing else in that spot would have gotten the heat akin to a MITB bout but a major title match. If his was opening a random, typical PPV event then sure, but to me it just goes to show that they've painted themselves into a corner as for the expectations now associated with opening a 'Mania show. They need to return MITB to this spot next year. Liked Rhodes/Rey but I wouldn't job out such a kiddie pleaser as Rey on the same card you're also gonna job Cena. Also, did anyone else notice at one point Rhodes screamed at Rey "THIS IS MY FACE!"? In the history of trash-talk, that is the worst line ever.

Good for Snooki. I can't bring myself to hate her and I'm glad she did her spot well.

The shitty comedy with Snoop was gay and dumb. The HHH/Taker entrances were almost fifteen minutes with the video package. The Pee Wee Rock seg was dumb and useless, the Eve/Mae/Austin one was more than enough. All of this, plus the eight man ought to have been cut in favour of Bryan/Seamus.

Main event was bad, but it wasn't much worse than HHH/Orton and HHH/Jericho. But a count-out, even as a swerve, is tasteless to even hint at on a 'Mania card. Miz is still Champ, though. Mainstream pub conquers all I guess, but I'm waiting on Miz's first great match since taking that belt.

A fairly mediocre , but not awful 'Mania by my tastes. Pacing, as others have said, was off, but it was booked badly weeks ago. But then, 'Mania is rarely a great show, top to bottom.



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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.71
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Rock in my opinion saved a rather terrible Mania and gave it a few good moments to make it passable.


God bless the Rock but I think he was more part of the problem than part of the solution when it comes to evaluating that show.

    Originally posted by The Old Man
    Hey, I wanted to see the match too. But you couldn't cut the championship matches, Taker's match, Snooki's match, King's match, Cody's match, or Orton's match. (And they sold the show based on a heaping helping of Rock.) Hopefully Sheamus and Bryan will be given a priority to work their program into a PPV match at Extreme Rules.


I think Bryan vs. Sheamus was going to be turned into a battle royal no matter what so they were kind of screwed either way, but at least they would've gotten to be on the show. Let's just pretend their title change match from a few weeks ago was their WM match.

    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Triple H's last truly great match remains 2008's No Mercy against Jeff Hardy


That was great but this was better. Maybe if Jeff had won. Except


    where he went over for no good reason.


Jeff was kicked off an airplane for being drunk that week.


    I'm waiting on Miz's first great match since taking that belt.


Lawler TLC, Morrison, Bryan were all more than good enough. If they'd been his PPV matches instead of the Orton run he'd be on fire as champion.


    A fairly mediocre , but not awful 'Mania by my tastes. ... But then, 'Mania is rarely a great show, top to bottom.


Mania 1-27 is rarely a great show top to bottom but Mania 17-26 nearly always is. Oh well, 28 is already Wrestlemania worthy. I hope Daniel Bryan gets to wrestle. In the restored Wrestlemania Money in the Bank. Yeah! I'm already happy again.
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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.43
I'll remember this PPV for one thing: Hornswoggle rapping. Sad, I know. The rest is just really forgettable.



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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.02
    Originally posted by TheOldMan

    You kind of answer your own criticism here, they DID focus the build of the show around a former star. So it's logical that former star would be featured in said show, right? The show did lean well toward the "entertainment" and away from the "wrestling", but that's not new. You can certainly criticize them for balancing the product like they do, but I'm not sure you can be surprised about it anymore.



They built Wrestlemania 14 around Mike Tyson being the big star at the show. Yea Rock's "excuse" for being there was that he was the host, but they had a month to officially make it where he's only there for Cena/Miz, which was pretty much the case anyways from where his story has gone.

The difference is that with Tyson, they were able to showcase what they did best and had a strong product to keep some of the people who paid for the PPV around. What they did Sunday? I don't think they accomplished anything.

Every single thing this company has done outside of wrestling has been a total and abysmal failure. Bodybuilding, XFL, movie production, etc. The only thing they have that's a success is wrestling, and now they've decided to get rid of that and work towards making it "entertainment"? It just seems like they're completely clueless. This is an old discussion as they've been pushing for this for a while, but man did they drop the ball on this show.
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#59 Posted on
Here's a condensed live report:

* Despite some suggestions, the crowd was pretty hot from the start of the dark match all the way up to... Cole/Lawler. That match was like Raid, as it killed the crowd dead. We didn't wake back up until the kick-out from the Tombstone.

* Sorry, folks, but Snooki hitting that handspring elbow was great. I understand it's cool to hate on the celebrities that are there every other year or so, but let's be honest... celebrities are what made WrestleMania different ALLLLLLL the way back to the beginning. (Liberace, anyone?) That said, they aren't there to completely shut out a crowd raining down resounding boos on them, but that's exactly what she did in Atlanta. I loved it, for the sheer unexpected fact that the Meatball hit a freaking move, and it could have ended very, very, very badly.

* Crowd seemed split between Orton and Punk. Seeing as how I hate Orton, I'm disappointed to see that Punk carried his ass the entire match and Orton only had the nerve to sell the knee on occasion. (Noted by last night's Matthews' call about Orton selling the knee when he remembers.)

* Triple H/Taker was very slow moving to start. Wasn't until that kick-out did anyone seem to care live in Atlanta. I personally LOVED the freakin' ending, but whomever thinks this a MOTY candidate might be hanging out with Jeff Hardy while posting.

* We were all taken back by both the Sheamus/Bryan moved to dark match choice AND the Edge/ADR match going on first, but the crowd was feeling them both. Add in a Rhodes/Rey quick little match (that was a little bit of Rey being sloppy, in my opinion), and we all seemed happy until that godawful Cole offensive onslaught.

* I echo the note about the crowd that headed to the restroom/beer line being bummed that the Corre/faces match lasted 2 minutes. Almost missed the Rock/Stone Cold moment as a result.

* When did they stop doing the recap videos at the end of Mania? Did the PPV buying audience get that? We didn't get it live in the arena...

Overall, no, not the greatest Mania, but far from the worst, seriously. The evening was fun, even if the middle of the show dragged.

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* Last-minute call to attend and grabbed some nosebleeds.

* Hacksaw and Bullet Bob were great. Road Dogg actually did a great intro for his Dad, and it's too bad he's so far on the outs. Looked like he could add a lot, at least from a talking perspective.

* Paul Ellering apparently has spent all of his money on poetry classes. Look, I'm sad Hawk is gone as well, and I am glad they got time to honor him at the ceremony... but they kept repeating themselves over and over. Felt like their speech dragged as a result, but that doesn't take away from LOD's deserving of the honor.

* Am curious to see if they chop out HBK's "I'm not allowed to mention someone's name" comment from the DVD. He actually didn't name hardly anyone as a thank you outside of God and his family, and I was curious if we'd hear names like Taker, Nash, Hart, Vader (kidding) thrown around.

* Odd to see X-Pac and Nash come out at the end with the D-X music playing... with Road Dogg sitting in the crowd about 20 yards away.


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