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Despite dozens of rumors regarding WWE bringing in past stars for WrestleMania XX, Vince McMahon is said to be very against the idea of making the show focused on "old timers."

Big names from the past may still be involved, but not in major matches. They may hold a ceremony or be spotted in the crowd or be involved in some other type of segment. That doesn't mean one legend may not return for a match, but do not expect a match like Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Savage or Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat, as has been rumored.

Vince wants the focus of WrestleMania XX to be on the new stars and the future of WWE, not the past.
-PWTorch.com and 411mania.com


While this makes me just about the happiest person in the world, I have to question whether or not this rumor will come true, as I still see McMahon panicking and signing a bunch of 80s and 90s stars to main-event matches on the show.




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I really hope this report is true. It would be a very, very bad sign if he digs up Hogan/Savage, Flair/Steamboat, Jake/Dibiase, or whatever the fuck was rumored. Now's the time for one of the new guys to get the rub of a lifetime and be made into a major star. Edge would be my pick, if he wasn't injured. Cena would do.



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He is right. My sincere hope is that this will be a transitional show, with the slogan being "The Future is Now." It should represent the new blood of the WWE (Cena, Lesnar, Orton, Maven, Hardy) getting the chance to shine over old names like Rocky, Goldberg, HHH, Flair, and HBK. Guys who are on the verge like Benoit and Guerrero should get the opportunity to shine on the big stage and break on through. The focal point should be about building momemtum for the NEXT 20 years, rather than harkening back to times past...
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I think there's room for a nostalgic bit on WM XX as long as it isn't the focus of the show. A "classics" battle royal, for example, could add to the traditional feel of the show without taking attention away from guys like Cena and Lesnar who should be the focus. Bring in guys like Savage, Jake, King Kong Bundy, Neidhart...old names from the past who were stars, not goofy gimmicks like they did at X7, and let them have ten minutes. Hell, you could even throw Randy Orton in there and have him blow through a whole bunch of the old guys if there's nothing else going on for him. Put a couple big names like Randy Savage in there and it could be a big deal for him. Maybe I'm just a sucker for the old timers, but I think there's ten minutes to be found for them on a five hour anniversary show and it could really help hammer home the point that this isn't just another PPV or just another WM.
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Maven should never be considered new blood for the WWF. His presence makes my TV hurt...two move bastard...



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They should just follow the formula they did for Wrestlemania X. Yeah, the show had lots of nostaliga with the old video clips and old timers in the crowd. Yet, I rembember Bret becoming the top gun in the post Hogan era; plus HBK, Ramon and Owen being made stars in the course of one night.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.24
    Originally posted by madiq
    Guys who are on the verge like Benoit and Guerrero should get the opportunity to shine on the big stage and break on through. The focal point should be about building momemtum for the NEXT 20 years, rather than harkening back to times past...


If you're building toward the future, the guys to start with aren't Benoit or Guerrero. Personal feelings aside, both guys are in their mid thirties, and Benoit has already had a career shortening injury. Unless they make Flairesque runs into their 50s, you should probably skew a bit younger than that.

(edited by Excalibur05 on 4.12.03 0125)


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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.43
    Originally posted by asteroidboy
    Now's the time for one of the new guys
    to get the rub of a lifetime and be made into a major star. Edge would be my pick, if he wasn't injured. Cena would do.


It's been 'that time' for the last 4 years. I just can't justify holding any hope anymore that they will figure out a way to do it within the near future, much less within the next 3 months.


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It will be an old folgs show becasue of that sitken old moron vince mcmanon is going to put his ugly face in every match up. and ruin it for the wrestling fans like mysef who want to see hardhitting good actoin and i got to see that cenile old fart who takes drugs trying to be a superstar.
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    Originally posted by asteroidboy
    I really hope this report is true. It would be a very, very bad sign if he digs up Hogan/Savage, Flair/Steamboat, Jake/Dibiase, or whatever the fuck was rumored. Now's the time for one of the new guys to get the rub of a lifetime and be made into a major star. Edge would be my pick, if he wasn't injured. Cena would do.


wait..I am sorry but I would LOVE to see Jake and Dibiase again. OK maybe not wrestling but it would still be cool. And hopfully Jake would kick his little drug problem by then.



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I stated in a different thread that I wouldn't mind seeing the pairing of older guys with current stars. That way you could have the nostalgia and the younger guys getting a rub. Remember that Nitro where Tito Santana, George Steel and I believe Jimmy Snuka all went to town on Jeff Jarrett? I popped like a baloon for that.
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If Vince is serious about keeping senior citizens from having Mania matches, then he should set the example and not book himself into a (built like a main event) match at Mania.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.86
    Originally posted by OMEGA
    Despite dozens of rumors regarding WWE bringing in past stars for WrestleMania XX, Vince McMahon is said to be very against the idea of making the show focused on "old timers."

    Big names from the past may still be involved, but not in major matches. They may hold a ceremony or be spotted in the crowd or be involved in some other type of segment. That doesn't mean one legend may not return for a match, but do not expect a match like Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Savage or Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat, as has been rumored.

    Vince wants the focus of WrestleMania XX to be on the new stars and the future of WWE, not the past.
    -PWTorch.com and 411mania.com


    While this makes me just about the happiest person in the world, I have to question whether or not this rumor will come true, as I still see McMahon panicking and signing a bunch of 80s and 90s stars to main-event matches on the show.




Ok, ok, i agree... but Vince have to recognize that this is the WMXX...this number is epic...he can focus on rising stars every single year! but this year its an excellent excuse to make honors to men who gave us the best years of his life as wrestlers...i insist...if Bret Hart doesnt come to WM XX...probably he can die without the tribute he deserves...(if you consider the problems that the Hart family have had recently)

If WM XX its gonna be just a regular wrestlemania with the same guys from aaaaaaaaaall PPV's ...then let me go to sleep....im out


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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.38
When booking WMXX, we shouldn't be looking at this in the temporal sense. Old vs New, Old vs Old, New vs New. Just fill the card up with matches we want to see regardless.

That said, I can't think of a single match I want to see on the show unless they manage to get Austin vs Hogan on there and Eddy wins the WWE Title.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
I have to agree... Austin vs. Hogan is by far the biggest type of match they could put on that card, and yet neither one of them is a new guy.

Pairing older guys with younger would be good, and it would even be better if some of the older guys were there just in the corner of the younger guns.

I DISAGREE with someone's assessment that Rock is one of the 'old guys', since the man still has enormous talent in the ring and on the mic, and could definitely help to put over a new guy (ala John Cena).

So give me:
Austin/Hogan
Cena/Rock
Lesnar/Goldberg
Undertaker/Kane
Benoit/Guerrero/Angle/Hardy/Mysterio/Edge/WGTT/Jericho and a sweet ass women's title match (I'm thinking Molly should definitely be involved... and Victoria...), and I'll be super excited about WMXX.

And throw in the Bret Hart/Vince McMahon confrontation, and I'll never complain again, until the following night's Raw.
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I'd rather see Austin vs. Goldberg personally...

Remember when both were running rampant in their respective companies everyone on the net or around where you lived, said "Austin would kill Goldberg" or "Goldberg is massive compared to Austin..."

That's the TRUE money match, Austin vs. Hogan would be big, yes, but Austin vs. Goldberg is the way to go...



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Austin vs. Goldberg would have been huge up until about three years ago when the interest in Goldberg and WCW both died. Granted, Goldberg has seen a bit of resurgence since they figured out how to properly book him BUT the hype for such a match would not be nearly what it was when that 'rivalry' was really hot.

I think the bigger issue, though, is Austin's health. If he wants to come back and work against Hogan or Vince, that's one thing. You're not going to get injured against a guy in his mid-50s with a punch-kick-scratch offence, but I don't think I'd be rushing to get in the ring with a reckless Bill Goldberg if I'm Steve Austin and my neck is so shot that I haven't wrestled for a year. If Austin is going to wrestle, and I figure he probably will, it's got to be against a safe opponent.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.38
I can see the case for one or the other, but it all depends on how you look at it.

If you look at it in the contemporary sense, I'm sure WWE could spin it so Austin and Goldberg were contemporaries working for rival companies, although that's not technically true since Hogan had much more facetime in WCW.

Austin vs Goldberg would require such a spin, though, because Goldberg was only really the top star in WCW for about 6 months in 1998.

If you look at it in sheer terms of star power, only two names can come to mind as the respective champions of their time: Austin and Hogan. Hogan ruled the WWF and was the biggest wrestling star ever until Austin came around (and Rock eclipsed both of them, although not as champion).

While I don't like to make shitty analogies all that much, here goes: Austin vs Hogan is wrestling's Tyson vs Ali. Austin vs Goldberg is wrestling's Tyson vs Holyfield.

EDIT: Let's also not forget that there's more of a personal grudge between Austin and Hogan. Ancient history? Yes, as ancient as Bret vs Hogan.

When Hogan came to WCW, he was supposedly instrumental in getting Austin fired in favor of his friends when WCW wanted to turn into WWF 1987. Hogan was on top, unchallenged, as wrestling's top star only to sew the seeds for his own "dethroning" by getting rid of the lowly midcarder that would someday surpass him.

That's a great story right there. It may be past its time to tell that, though.

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 4.12.03 0900)
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Wrestlemania...the show of shows. The showcase of the "Superstars". I'll be glad to when it finally comes around. As most of you have said it should be about TODAYS superstars and not about yesteryear. XX is a milestone for the WWE. This is the one event EVERY year that started it all. Started "Sports Entertainment" and the Pay Per View industry. Now given there isn't a YEARLY build up for this event it won't be as spectacutlar as the first few. Now with all the PPV's inbetween the hype always seems to be a little bit of a let down. Yet the magic of WRESTLEMANIA is still there. Like the opening of WRESTLEMANIA the past few years has said from the superstars.

Tripple H: I'm about to hear 68,000 thousand fans scream MY NAME.

Undertaker: You work all your life for this moment.

Y2J: It's my time to shine in the spotlight.

They say it's the grandest stage of them all. If Vince, the writers, and God willing anything else doesn't flub XX up it just might be.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.83

I'm all for having some past legends at the show, but not all competing ...

As much as I hate to admit it, I wanna see Autin vs. Vince one more time ... it's a fitting way for Austin to go out (should it be his last match) ...

Goldberg vs. Lesnar works just fine for me ...

And I do NOT want to see Flair vs. Steamboat ... As much as I admired the two growing up, I just don't want to see those 2 have a match at the biggest 'Mania of all.

Hell I wouldn't mind seeing another Jericho/HBK match myself.



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