Going back and looking at last year's rumored matches it sounds a lot like the rumors that have been mentioned for WM 30 next year. Anyone who listens to Meltzarez or other plugged in sorts have any inkling what the plan might be for next year?
Anyone who listens to Meltzarez or other plugged in sorts have any inkling what the plan might be for next year?
They've been talking about Brock vs Rock for 30 for a few months, back to whenever Brock agreed for another year. It seems to be a firm deal.
They've brought up Undertaker vs John Cena, like everyone else, but that seems far less sure.
Punk seems like the only other person important enough where they *might* make a year long plan, but his name hasn't been brought up.
Edit: uhhhhh, plans change? Changed? Are changing? I have tense issues, WON makes it sound tense
Originally posted by WONThere is absolute panic at Raw at this moment. The show was scheduled to build to a segment where Brock Lesnar beat up Rock to set up next year's WrestleMania main event. Rock is not there. The word at the building is he went home. Vince McMahon, the writers and producers are in the process of redoing the show, evidently believing the angle has been nixed. Nobody knows any details as to what happened past that. The belief right now is Rock is not appearing and hopefully if that changes we'll get an update.
If they really are scrambling, they could do a very easy and very hot angle by having Brock attack Punk.
Building for a year from now is a gimmick, a trick. There's no reason why they have to plan that far ahead -- again -- just to prove they can. Last year, Brock attacked Cena, and that didn't lead to a Mania match.
And, hey, neither Rock nor Brock is a regular on the roster. Brock clobbers Rock and both guys vanish for months. How do you build off that next week?
"To be the man, you gotta beat demands." -- The Lovely Mrs. Tracker
Originally posted by Matt TrackerBuilding for a year from now is a gimmick, a trick. There's no reason why they have to plan that far ahead -- again -- just to prove they can. Last year, Brock attacked Cena, and that didn't lead to a Mania match.
Rock vowed to win the WWE Title though. They had that whole story of Rock winning the title and defending against Cena already mapped out.
And, hey, neither Rock nor Brock is a regular on the roster. Brock clobbers Rock and both guys vanish for months. How do you build off that next week?
Brock is supposedly working Extreme Rules so I guess whoever's supposed to rebuild him from HHH would come out next week and be like "hey man, that wasn't cool."
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Originally posted by ObserverThere is a second major angle tonight to set up the main feud going forward and the Extreme Rules main event involving John Cena's next title defense. It is one of the things that has been planned for some time and was actually scheduled before Mania.
I feel like Undertaker vs Cena, Streak vs Title, is up there as one of the most compelling matches they could do. It's a hard one to call, they're both the top guys in modern-day WrestleMania (at least as far as last night is concerned), and it's incredibly high stakes for a milestone WrestleMania.
Rock vs Brock is the match everyone keeps talking about, so that seems like a given, and with them both being part-timers, it makes sense to build to that one since they don't really get in anyone's way and can have their own time on the show. Plus, I think Rock should get a big WrestleMania victory after the way he put Cena over last night. Lesnar needs a big win too, but that's what the rest of the year is for.
They really do need to figure out a match that showcases a younger star and start a program to build him. The milestone WrestleManias have traditionally been about solidifying a newer guy on top (Bret at WMX, Benoit/Guerrero at WMXX). I'd like to see them do that. Hopefully, they can figure out a huge angle for Punk that solidifies him.
Originally posted by JustinShapiroRock vowed to win the WWE Title though. They had that whole story of Rock winning the title and defending against Cena already mapped out.
But if Brock attacking Rock tonight (if that's legit) is supposed to lead to Rock versus Brock at mania (if that's legit), then how does a very visible, movie-hyping Rock excuse his long WWE hiatus before getting revenge? And does Brock quit again to excuse HIS absence?
It's an interesting match-up, and I want to see Heyman get another chance to talk against Rock, but I'd rather see a build toward SummerSlam or even Extreme Rules instead of another match planned for a year away. It's gonna bite them eventually. Injury or ego is gonna bite them when they could instead give us that match months earlier. It's a gamble. And in the case of Rock and Cena, it paid off twice. But you back away from the dealer's table before you bust out.
As for Cena's next opponent, I had seen Batista suggested, but the new movie deal (Guardians of the Galaxy) might curtail his ring activities.
"To be the man, you gotta beat demands." -- The Lovely Mrs. Tracker
Going back on the last thread, I sorta kinda called Taker/Punk. Good for me. So, I am going to call this now, no part timers. Yep, no Rock, HHH, HBK and Taker for the 30th Wrestlemania. We get Cena/Ziggler and Bryan/Punk.
Ha, Ha, Ha..just kidding, its going to be all about them. However, if Rock left even though he was scheduled for Extreme Rules than something has happened. Brock/Rock goes to SummerSlam. If anything, we avoid Cena/Rock III for Cena/Taker while DX vs. Punk/Brock is the midcardspot. Because, you know HHH really needs that Mania payday
The Wee Baby Sheamus.Twitter: @realjoecarfley its a bit more toned down there. A bit.
Originally posted by ObserverThere is a second major angle tonight to set up the main feud going forward and the Extreme Rules main event involving John Cena's next title defense. It is one of the things that has been planned for some time and was actually scheduled before Mania.
The Ryback heel turn?
That certainly isn't going to help Ryback's PPV win-loss record, if that's the case.
I'm more inclined to think it's the Orton heel turn, but who even knows where that is anymore?
Rock vs. Brock sounds awesome, if this were Summerslam 2002.
I would not be adverse in the slightest to Punk vs. Undertaker II where the angle is not about Paul Bearer but about what this match was supposed to be about originally, plus the added value of Punk lost and wants another crack at the Streak.
I mean, Punk vs. Undertaker WAS the one universally beloved aspect of WrestleMania, and the last time THAT happened (Houston, WrestleMania 25), they did the rematch the next year.
Cena vs. Undertaker is the last card they have to play for Streak Dream Match where the outcome would be in serious doubt. Not that Cena needs the rub from ending the Streak, but he believably could because he's John Cena.
There are other guys on the roster, properly elevated, who could threaten the Streak. Sheamus comes to mind. He's a WrestleMania classic from cementing himself as a genuine top guy. If they're looking at loyal company man main event part timers, Jericho has also never had a crack at the Streak.
All I know is unless I win that 30 Trips to WrestleMania 30 contest, there isn't anything that could get me to New Orleans for WrestleMania 30.
(edited by John Orquiola on 8.4.13 1435) "Cody, I mustache you a question." - The Miz
They could do what they just did and have Brock/Rock at SummerSlam and then a rematch between the two at WM30.
Rock vs Brock does make sense for SummerSlam, since that's the event where they last fought.
The only thing about that I don't like is that, if Brock is only going to wrestle 3 times a year, they should really switch it up. Give Brock a big win over a "name" superstar (like The Rock), and then let a guy like CM Punk take him out.
In fact, if they can't get Austin to come back this year, I'd rather see Punk vs Lesnar at WrestleMania 30, and even that one could be for the title. Or A title, if there's still that Two World Titles crap by then.
Originally posted by John OrquiolaAll I know is unless I win that 30 Trips to WrestleMania 30 contest, there isn't anything that could get me to New Orleans for WrestleMania 30.
If Rock isn't involved for next year, then I agree that Brock should instead be booked against a 'newer' guy like Punk, Sheamus or even Daniel Bryan so Brock can put over someone who could use such a major victory. Then again, of the three names I mentioned, Punk is probably already 'there,' Bryan is a pipe dream and Sheamus has been quietly getting buried for the last eight months. Seriously, losing the world title clean to Big Show and then losing every subsequent rematch and losing to the Shield twice on PPV? Has management soured on him?
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Originally posted by John OrquiolaAll I know is unless I win that 30 Trips to WrestleMania 30 contest, there isn't anything that could get me to New Orleans for WrestleMania 30.
Not even Nikki vs. Brie?
Yeah, as if they wouldn't get cut from the show. Fool me once...
Originally posted by Big BadIf Rock isn't involved for next year, then I agree that Brock should instead be booked against a 'newer' guy like Punk, Sheamus or even Daniel Bryan so Brock can put over someone who could use such a major victory.
Keep in mind Brock is in for two years, so in theory he needs some kind of arc where year 2 is the rest of his big matches against babyfaces (plus they've now got him and Punk together for dream team tag matches), then year 3 is his face turn to go against the strong heels like Punk and Orton(?) and uhh.
Originally posted by BBHas management soured on Sheamus?
New flavor of the month. They haven't soured on Sheamus, they've spicied on Del Rio, desperate for an hispanic star.
Which kind of ties into the previous quote. Last year when Brock signed, we talked about him putting over Sheamus, who had just supplanted Orton. By the time we got to Wrestlemania, Sheamus had been supplanted by Del Rio. Next year, Del Rio by ... Ziggler? Ryback? Barrett? Who knows.
Originally posted by MeltzDwayne Johnson isn't on TV tonight because he suffered an injury, the nature of which we don't know the severity of at press time in last night's match.
http://www.silvervision.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=WWE1112 The above site has the first details that I've seen for the One Night Stand DVD, but the thing that really sells me on it is the following. Come on, who isn't interested in that? ;)