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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.73
    Originally posted by Wall Street, USA
    WWE announced today that WrestleMania, held April 1 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami, set new records for pay-per-view buys and gross sales. Preliminary estimates show that WrestleMania, featuring the historic Once in a Lifetime match between The Rock® and John Cena®, garnered 1.3 million pay-per-view buys with global gross sales in excess of $67 million including the live event.


We anxiously await the domestic/international split.

The previous record was 1.25 million PPV buys for Wrestlemania 23.
The record for North American PPV buys is 950,000 for Wrestlemania 17.
28's live gate of $8.9 million was also the most in wrestling history.

Rock's return to PPV last year at Wrestlemania 27 did 1.06 million buys. Not a bad couple years for Rock's legacy as an attraction, Survivor Series notwithstanding.

Can they top it next year with Rock wrestling, Lesnar wrestling, and potentially Austin wrestling? Or was Rock's first singles match, Cena as Rock's opponent, and the yearlong build the unique key?
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.13
I think they can match or beat it if Austin really wrestles, otherwise they are just going to have to strive to come close. There just isn't a guy like The Rock that you can bring in every year and get that kind of buzz. Triple H vs Undertaker in a Cell match isn't a shabby #2 on the bill for the on again off again fan or Punk vs Jericho as a #2 for the everyday fan.

I guess the real question is can they build more of their current guys to start drawing more buzz of their own?



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If this holds, I think there can be a legitimate argument that Rock is the biggest wrestling star of all time. He'll be a very big part of setting the PPV buyrate record, co-hold the highest rated RAW segment and have the fact he's the only wrestler to be an A-list movie star all under his belt. Not too bad for a guy who started out seeing Die, Rocky Die signs. I'm also sure the guys bitching Rock got the main event will be his best friend once they see their checks from the show.

I think they may be able to do better for Wrestlemania 29, IF they keep Rock and Brock out of the ring for stretches during the year. Putting them on PPV too much may damage their appeal. But that's something up for debate too.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.07
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Originally posted by Wall Street, USA
      WWE announced today that WrestleMania, held April 1 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami, set new records for pay-per-view buys and gross sales. Preliminary estimates show that WrestleMania, featuring the historic Once in a Lifetime match between The Rock® and John Cena®, garnered 1.3 million pay-per-view buys with global gross sales in excess of $67 million including the live event.


    We anxiously await the domestic/international split.

    The previous record was 1.25 million PPV buys for Wrestlemania 23.
    The record for North American PPV buys is 950,000 for Wrestlemania 17.


For reference, the boxing match between Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather did between 2.15 and 2.4 million buys, depending on which source you choose to believe. (I've always heard 2.15 mil from the people who actually write about boxing.) Floyd and Manny Pacquiao might double WM28's buyrate if they ever get in the damn ring.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.43
Impressive.

If Austin wrestles, there is a good chance it will beat this year, but a few factors:

-Rock Vs Cena had a year long build. Doubt a Punk/Austin program will get started until around Survivor Series.

-On the other hand, we haven't seen Austin in action for even longer than the Rock.

-BUT...don't discount Cena's contribution. Love him or hate him, fans wanted to see what would happen. Punk has yet to prove he can draw that level of attention.

-Of course, if they do UT Vs Cena next year, then you have that base covered.
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We are never going to get Mayweather/De La Hoya and if we do, it will be as their last pay days. Mayweather wanting more of the purse just screams he doesn't want to fight De La Hoya.

As for the buyrate, well I hope the WWE stars crying about Rock coming back enjoy their new houses, cars, college funds for their kids and retirement funds. I am a little shocked by this, but looking at the card, it shouldn't have. You know that Vince is going to find a way to lock Rock up for the next 3 Manias as well as squeeze Austin in there as well.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
    Originally posted by lotjx
    We are never going to get Mayweather/De La Hoya and if we do, it will be as their last pay days. Mayweather wanting more of the purse just screams he doesn't want to fight De La Hoya.

You appear very well informed on the subject matter and I see no reason to question anything in the above paragraph.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.77
you wonder how accurate the number is, since they worked the attendance figure (as per usual) this year.

The real number will probably be buried in the fall quarterly report after everyone has learned the real number, as we have learned, if you repeat a number often enough (93,000 at WM iii), people will believe it as the truth.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.53
    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo
    If Austin wrestles, there is a good chance it will beat this year, but a few factors:

    -Rock Vs Cena had a year long build. Doubt a Punk/Austin program will get started until around Survivor Series.

    -On the other hand, we haven't seen Austin in action for even longer than the Rock.


While Austin has been out of the ring for longer than the Rock had, the fans have also seen a lot more of Austin over the years, as he's still been appearing at least a few times a year on WWE programming. With Rock, I think the novelty was large part due to the fact that (his dad and grandfather's HOF induction aside) he had been totally gone from the scene for seven years.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.59
    Originally posted by odessasteps
    you wonder how accurate the number is, since they worked the attendance figure (as per usual) this year.


I don't see where they bragged about a raw attendance figure for Sun Life in the link.

I'm pretty sure that the WWE Business arm isn't allowed to play Wall Street like marks, their numbers have to be good faith for the sake of investors. While I imagine there are SEC rules as well, I'd bet that as long as the dollar figures are a shoot, all is well legally.

That said, I found it interesting that this news actually was greeted by the stock price dropping a percent, after staying steady all morning. (Open 8.11 Close 8.02) So nice as the number is, apparently the Street expected better.

Looking to next year, Rock returning to go after the title, and adding a Cena/Taker matchup should be plenty on top to sell a similar number of buys. (Better if they let Lesnar run through everyone all year.) Austin returning with an actual program and match may grab some extra nostalgia customers. Wasn't Austin's thing that he feels he has a match left in him, if he gets an opponent he can trust?

(It remains to be seen if this approach does much for the undercard players who will need to carry things once the nostalgia kick gets played out.)



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.92
    Originally posted by TheOldMan
      Originally posted by odessasteps
      you wonder how accurate the number is, since they worked the attendance figure (as per usual) this year.


    I don't see where they bragged about a raw attendance figure for Sun Life in the link.

    I'm pretty sure that the WWE Business arm isn't allowed to play Wall Street like marks, their numbers have to be good faith for the sake of investors. While I imagine there are SEC rules as well, I'd bet that as long as the dollar figures are a shoot, all is well legally.



True, but this is still just an estimate of how many buys got (and of course they announced the high end of the estimate).

Nothing wrong with that. They're not lying, but I'm curious if when the accurate numbers come in they still beat Wrestlemania 23.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.64
They're going to beat WM23. You don't estimate 50,000 over if you don't want to make complete fools of yourselves. And I might be mistkane, but these figures often end up rising after initial estimates.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.92
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    They're going to beat WM23. You don't estimate 50,000 over if you don't want to make complete fools of yourselves. And I might be mistkane, but these figures often end up rising after initial estimates.


From what I heard a couple days ago the numbers normally drop a bit once the domestic/international exact numbers come in. It's quite possible that they'll beat WM23, but I just want to wait for the exact numbers to know for sure.

As for making complete fools of themselves, all they have to do is make a big announcement about a big number, and then a month from now quietly sneak in the actual number. 95% of wrestling fans will probably never read about them getting 1.3M to begin with, and a fraction of the ones that do will find out about the actual numbers.

After these guys lied about the WM attendance to beat a Backstreet Boys concert, and then complained that the BSB concert shouldn't be counted because the BSB lied about their numbers, I have no doubt that the WWE doesn't mind looking like fools if they think it'll serve their immediate need.
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