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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.31
Random useless trivia:

This is the third Wrestlemania in a row where HBK wrestled in the Match of the Night according to this board.

One could argue that he also did so from WM X to XII (and possible XIV), making this 6 (or 7) Matches of the Night out of 9 singles appearances. Pretty impressive....



EDIT: I was only referring to singles matches, no tag matches.

(edited by UnsUwe on 4.4.05 1543)


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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.65
    Originally posted by UnsUwe
    Random useless trivia:

    This is the third Wrestlemania in a row where HBK wrestled in the Match of the Night according to this board.

    One could argue that he also did so from WM X to XII (and possible XIV), making this 6 (or 7) Matches of the Night out of 9 singles appearances. Pretty impressive....


Really, I'd also say he had match of the night with Tatanka at 'Mania IX as well as with Diesel at 'Mania XI. So, in my opinion, in his past 8 WrestleMania appearances, he has had the match of the night each time out.



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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.50
Was anyone else worried about Benoit at the end of the Money in the Bank Ladder Match? I'm pretty sure he was just selling the arm, but it really looked like he broke his nose from that diving headbutt off the ladder.



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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
I agree that the Smackdown World Title match was not very good but something just doesn't sit with me there.

Maybe it's me but they just seemed to call an audible and hurried up the finish b/c they were running out of time. That match needed another 5-10 minutes at least. That finish absolutely came out of nowhere and too quickly and the crowd wasn't really prepped for it.

Didn't help that Dave Batista's win completely overshadowed it too.

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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.15
    Originally posted by Kawshen
    I agree that the Smackdown World Title match was not very good but something just doesn't sit with me there.

    Maybe it's me but they just seemed to call an audible and hurried up the finish b/c they were running out of time. That match needed another 5-10 minutes at least. That finish absolutely came out of nowhere and too quickly and the crowd wasn't really prepped for it.

    Didn't help that Dave Batista's win completely overshadowed it too.

    (edited by Kawshen on 4.4.05 1146)


No question in my mind. The match TOTALLY came off as rushed and that they had to make adjustments for time. Say what you will about both guys and what you think of their talent but neither of them are the type that would want their WM match to be that quick or that weak. I think they were given the word to cut it short and had to down play it. CENA took an early beating to make JBL look strong and then made the come back out of nowhere to try and sell it as a surprise upset. Psychology wise that could have worked had they had more time to build it.
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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.99
Eddie/Rey was very good. I feel it was off as well, but had they been given five more minutes to fill with dramatic falls like Angle/Michaels did later, we'd be talking about this match in a whole different light right now. I was totally disappointed with the finish, however. That's the same thing that happened with their Smackdown matches. I didn't pay fifty bucks for a smackdown replay.

The JBL/HHH confrontation backstage was cool, but I would have loved to see them meeting up backstage again later, both beltless.

You had to feel bad for Benoit. He legitimately busted his eyebrow open on RAW last week, and at 'Mania looked like he legitimately injured his shoulder, and then broke his nose. He's barely human sometimes. Shelton was amazing, the match seemed to like it was a star-making situation for him even though he didn't win it. Edge is a good choice assuming Batista is going to be a long-term Champion and not lose it in two months back to HHH.

You have to wonder how much pain Hogan is in if he can't even do a legdrop at this point in his life. I love the Hulkster, but that one element made me pretty sad.

Orton/Taker was a good match, but Orton still found several chances to suck. Why he backdropped the forty-year-old, six-foot-ten Undertaker is beyond me. It looked legitimately painful for Taker. However, that was nothing compared to the way he botched the old-school. I've never seen anyone do that. He really is something special. Despite those mistakes, the match got really good toward the end. Cowboy Bob having his cast on was the kind of nod of appreciation to long-time fans that makes it rewarding to watch. In fact, with Jake and Marty and Hall of Fame ceremonies, WWE seems less passionately rejecting of its past than it has been in recent memory. And hell, that RKO outta nowhere was pretty good, I have to admit. Also, Orton looked completely retarded trying to tombstone him, although that wasn't necessarily his idea. The guy is at least half a foot taller than Randy, and a lot of that is legs. It was obvious that wasn't going to work out. Still, the right man won. Orton can get his win back whenever he wants, it doesn't have to be at Wrestlemania. No one should end Taker's streak. At this point, since he's really starting to show his age, beating him doesn't mean what it would have when, say, Kane faced him at 'Mania XIV. Now, instead of getting someone over, the streak has become a part of 'Mania lore to the extent that fans will only crap on whoever ends it. Let 'Takes have it and keep it, let it be his legacy.

I didn't watch Trish and Christy, I gotta be honest. I had to take a dump sometime. I wasn't surprised with the result.

Angle and Michaels was fantastic. The grappling at the beginning wasn't terribly, or even remotelty exciting, but it made sense given where they were headed. Without that, what happened later wouldn't have meant as much. I loathe Michaels, and I was pretty sure he was going over because, for one, he's Shawn Michaels, and secondly, a SD guy went over in the last interpromotional match. And thinking this, I was pretty disgusted when he kicked out of the Angle Slam off the top, which is a finish no matter who you are in my book. Angle was the one who went over, however, and boy was I shocked. Even when he wrapped his whole body around the leg, which usually no one ever escapes, I thought Shawn would get to the rope. He didn't. I've never been so happy to be wrong. Great great match and the right man definitely went over. Now if only they'd done this for Jericho a couple years ago. I know, I know, moving on.

Piper's Pit was fairly decent. I was surprised at how over Austin wasn't. His comments weren't get any pops after the intial one. I earned a new respect for Piper when he turned and said "what are you, deaf?" at the crowd's what. He should have left it at that, however, and not done ten more comments each less funny than the last. Carlito held his own in terms of personality, which says a lot for his future considering who he was in there with. That they think enough of him to put him on the PPV with two huge personalities is also a good sign. The drinking was fine, and the stunner was obvious.

Akebone/Show was terrifying and disgusting. Who did Big Show piss off to draw this assignment? And did I see Akebono's scrotum?

I have to defend Cena. The way this match was cut down on time smacks of HHH. I seriously doubt the plan all along was to do an eleven minute match. The house show reports of these two have said fans were into it, and it was stiff and entertaining stuff. Why then, did they have JBL dominate for ten minutes and then Cena win in such a quick and meaningless fashion? It's Wrestlemania, there is no excuse for this. Lay out the match when the guys can't wing it, lay it out move for move. Savage/Steamboat was laid out that way, Hogan/Warrior was, and all the Rock/Austin matches were. They could not have laid this one out in detail, because it was all Bradshaw.

HHH/Batista was an above-average brawl. Not a homerun by any means, but definitely good stuff. I could have done without the blade-job by Hunter, however, it loses all meaning after a while. I bet this one was laid out in detail because there's no way Batista ever could have gone that long without a plan.

I'd like to take bets on how long it takes Hunter to win the belt back.




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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.85
A solid show but for WrestleMania it was a bit disappointing.
Eddie/Rey had a good match but nowhere near what they could do.
Money in the Bank was very enjoyable. Shelton stole the show.
Eugene segment was nice, the crowd needed to get Hogan chants out of their system and not wait for a hyped up let down (aka Lesnar/Goldberg).
Taker/Orton was enjoyable with an awesome last 5 mins. The chokeslam reverse into the RKO was move of the night for me.
Womens title was worse then expected which says something. I thought they might have made Christy look better but she just didnt have a clue.
Angle/HBK was good but was good but a little dissappointing with all the hype. I guess i better take another look at it as sometimes i dont like matches at first but then they grow on me.
Pipers pit was just awesome from start to finish. Piper was brilliant.
Sumo match was there.
WWE title was very poor with a finsih out of nowhere, thats no way to end the longest title rein in 10 years.
World title was very solid, i dint expect a classic but we got our moneys worth.
Wow, four years later and Lemmy STILL doesnt know they lyrics.
And it looked to me that HBK forgot to zip off the pants to wrestle in his normal gear.

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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.84
First things first, usually me and the wrestling friends here in the Motor City head to the Emagine digital theatre for these PPVs. 7 bucks for a 35 buck event, plus they serve alcohol *and* it's as close to a live event atmosphere as you can get. However, screw-ups happen and it finally did this year. For this PPV. For WRESTLEMANIA. See, the theatre uses digital cable to order the PPV, then project it onto the big screen. Well, our yokel local cable provider here (Time Warner/Bright House) were apparently thrown off by Wrestlemania being longer than normal by *one hour* and could not figure out how to send the signal to anybody who ordered. And I do mean ANYBODY, the entire Detroit area who is under Time Warner/Bright House was not able to get Wrestlemania. Needless to say, we were a theatre full of PISSED future Direct TV subscribers.

We went over to my friend's house, about 20 minutes out from the theatre and into the Comcast broadcasting area, and picked up the 11pm replay. By this time, I had already gotten through a six-pack of Labatt's so I don't have too many specific memories, heh. I do remember Eddie/Rey and Cena/JBL being very disappointing, I know Trish/Christy was exactly what I thought it'd be, I enjoyed Taker/Orton more than I thought I would (despite Orton's wierd Old School selling and botched Last Ride), the Batista title win was alright and the Ladder Match, Angle/HBK, and Piper's Pit owned everything. As someone else mentioned, my personal highlight of the night was Angle putting the straps back on....so he could remove them again. Priceless!



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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.29
The key with Batista and Hunter, though the match started slow was that Hunter hasn't been destroyed that badly in forever. That more than anything made the match great. It wasn't dramatic, because Batista demolished him clean and relatively quick. Batista busted him up, powered out of the pedigree and power bombed him down. Great "WM Moment" if you will. About the crowd being dead for the last two matches, well, I just think the undercard burned them out. It burned me out, quite frankly. They woke up for the endings, but the undercard was a hard act to follow for the most part.

Okay the other matches.

Eddy v. Rey was fine for what it was. It wasn't a bad match by any stretch, could it have been better? Definitely. I'm sure wherever they're going with this will lead to a blowaway match.

I liked the HHH v. JBL segment. Really made their losses later in the night, sweeter. Nice back and forth thing though.

Ladder match: Shelton stole the show. He came across like the next big thing. I didn't like how guys would play dead for 5 minutes at a time, but what can you do. Edge winning was the right thing. What I'd like to see now is Edge to sit back, maybe send some people after Batista, get him worn down by the grind of being champ. I mean, Edge's character is kinda sympathetic, he has been screwed out of that belt. So, what will get him over as more of a heel than sitting back now and waiting on his coveted shot so the Animal can be worn down? I loved that Edge didn't win with some big move, he just jacked up Benoit's arm with a steel chair. Totally heel move.

The Hogan segment. First of all, the Hassan throat cutting gesture is completely out of line. I mean, I know the character is horribly offensive at best, but to simulate cutting someone's throat is way out of line. The Hogan pop was huge, of course and the fans knew it was coming. Good segment.

Orton v. Taker: Great, great match. Amazing near falls. I thought Orton had him with that RKO out of the chokeslam. You could see the tombstone reversal a mile away, though. But really, maybe Orton's best mach *with the exception of the Benoin title switch* Very impressed and I think that in the long run Orton is gonna be okay.

Trish v Hemme was short and Trish did the broomstick job on here. I mean, Stratus is so far and away better than every woman on the roster COMBINED at this point, that I have to wonder where they can go now. Hemme didn't completely expose the business, so bully for her.

Angle v HBK was amazing. Great selling by Shawn. Great drama. Awesome near falls. Angle really dominated the match, which was good to see. Clean win. In fact, all the matches went clean tonight. Totally lived up to my expectation. For Angle do perform like that, with his injuries, amazing. And give Micheals credit. I wish they'd go somewhere with his character (SD, heel term, something beyond just 'guy who wrestles and wins about 50 percent of the time) but he can turn it on for the big matches.

I think after all this, the crowd just got burnt out. The heat wasn't what you would think it'd be for the last three segments.

Piper's Pit was fun for what it was. Got Carlito some face time. Piper looked good. His last run was so sad. It's good he delivered. Austin is Austin. Beer and stunners are cool, what can I say? I mean, it didn't really develop anything, but it was entertaining.

The Sumo match was what it was. I mean, nice visual. And show getting chucked out of the ring was cool. But, I'm sure they could have found something better to do with Show than this. Oh well.

Cena v. JBl: The Hundred Dollar Bradshaws were great. The match was way short. Why not gimmick it up? They've done that with every other Bradshaw match. I was barely paying attention b/c I expected it to kick into high gear. Then *boom* over. I think the issue here is that this match was so short, it makes you wonder more about Cena than JBL. I mean, they've given JBL some time in his matches in the past. But with Cena, he looked like they were trying not to expose him out there. Makes me wonder if he's really the long-term answer here. Actually, I don't wonder. He's not.

The Hall of Fame ceremony was nice. I thought Hassan might get his heat back there, oh well. In fact, as every other guy on stage was at one time an enemy of Hogan, I would have found it amazing if they all jumped him. Regardles.

And the main was exactly what it needed to be. Batista's win did overshadow Cena. Oh well.
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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.73

    And the main was exactly what it needed to be. Batista's win did overshadow Cena. Oh well.


That probably had as much to do with how the two matches were booked than anything else. It was all JBL until Cena made his comeback, and if it wasn't for the YCSM gesture before the shuffle, I wouldn't have known the crowd was alive during that match. It didn't do a lot for Cena compared to HHH bumping like a pinball for Batista to make him look like the superstar of the next century.

Although I'd be remiss if I didn't point out toward the finish of the match that Batista did the best selljob of a low blow I've ever seen. He practically made himself look cross-eyed and it was beautiful. Also beautiful was HHH's "GODAMMIT why won't this WORK?" expression when Batista decided he was not to be Pedigreed.

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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    I mean, Stratus is so far and away better than every woman on the roster COMBINED at this point

I'd put Molly above Trish (ooh, there's a nice visual ). Trish has more charisma, but Molly is head & shoulders above Trish in the ring.


    First of all, the Hassan throat cutting gesture is completely out of line. I mean, I know the character is horribly offensive at best, but to simulate cutting someone's throat is way out of line

Plus, it doesn't even fit the character. He's supposed to be angry at how Arab-Americans are treated in this country, but that gesture would only enforce the stereotypes he's mad about.



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Eddie/Rey ... probably ordered not to steal the show, so they didn't. Nice backbreaker, Eddie. OK match.

Ladder ... Benjamin and Benoit were fantastic. Glad to see Edge win it, though.

Eugene, Hassan, and Hogan ... Hogan saved the entire segment. Crowd knew he was coming, and they loved it. It appears Hogan's leg isn't up to the old legdrop any more; good thing his ego is still in good enough shape to still be able to flex his pot belly and pose for 30 minutes!! YAY

Orton/UT ... Nice chokeslam into the RKO, nice cast shot by the Ace ... only bright spots in a shitty match and a terrible ending. At this point the UT is clearly not able to hang in there for any length of time. It's a disgrace -- at least Orton was in there TRYING; I'll give him that.

Angle/Michaels ... fantastic. FANTASTIC. Split crowd, wonderful match. Great to see Angle get the win. I'll never be able to see Hart and HBK go at it again, but this was right up there with anything those two would have produced. Made the show for me.

Akebono/Show ... I'll never eat cottage cheese again. Would have had a good laugh if Akebono actually went full-out (a la Butterbean) and beat Show in about 0.25 seconds or thereabouts.

The Pit ... not a surprise at what went down. Didn't think a Scotsman could get "drunk" that fast, tho. And yeah -- I KNOW that wasn't beer they were drinking in the ring.

Trish/Hemme ... Trish looked great, as usual. Too bad she has no credible opponents left except for Molly Holly. At least Christy was into it ... it's not her fault she was thrust into a match she had no business participating in. What was she gonna say? "No, I'm not ready"? Sure.

WWE Title ... Not a bad match at all until the end. How fucking lame. Were they pressed for time or something? Simple solution -- tell Hogan to pose for only 10 minutes instead of 30.

World Title ... well done. HHH was good; still don't think Batista's ready for the title, but what's done is done and it's good to see Batista get that chance.





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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.47
I've never been to a WrestleMania live before -- it was great! Looks like the report from It's False (The W) pretty much has the "live from the arena" basics covered. Seems like maybe some of the crowd response didn't come across quite the same on TV as it was live.

The opening Raw vs. SD Battle Royal was a fun opener. I figured that was the way that "everybody else" would get a WM payout. Ended up with Viscera (Yes, he is still around.) & Masters vs. Booker, & Booker's win got a great reaction. (Rhyno & Booker were the only 2 who took off their "team" shirts & tossed them to the crowd -- those are good souveniers.)

No comments on Lillian's dress?? I figured there'd be at least a little drooling. And backup singers. Lillian rocks.

(Saw Shane O'Mac & his wife going to sit in the crowd. Was somewhat suprised that he didn't hang out backstage. Meanwhile, the lead security guy who looks rather like Austin was at ringside in a suit! Confused the heck out of me for a minute.)

Very split crowd for Eddie & Rey. Still cool in spite of the problems.

The flaming ladders was one of my favourite ever intro visuals! Seems that TV didn't pick up the round of boos for the pyro techs trying to get them extinguished after the match started. :-)

The ladder match was excellent. That is one thing that comes across even more impressive live -- when they're all up on top of ladders, battling, the scale gets lost on TV, but it's truly amazing live. Shelton got at least 3 different "Holy shit" chants, although really everybody was fantastic -- including Kane. (Shelton did get legitimately helped to the back afterwards -- he wasn't putting any weight on the one leg at all. I had the impression it was from later in the match than the "tangled in the ropes" spot.)

The whole Eugene / Hassan / Hogan ebb & flow was great. "You don't like midgets?" People were calling for Hogan from the moment Hassan & Davari appeared. How can you not go crazy for Hogan? :-)

(At one point I noticed Mae & Moolah in the audience. They had their Pepsis & big tub of popcorn, & were just having a grand time watching the show. Can I be one of them when I grow up?)

Earl got his very own pop when he came out to ref Orton/Taker. Earl is over! :-) I was quite suprised he was working that match.

Flaming Druids, best fog ever, & the glide out to the ring -- it's a beautiful thing. Randy was still getting some cheers, as well as some "good" heel heat. Nobody in the building actually thought there was any chance that Randy was actually going to win this. "C'mon Randy -- he's 20 years older than you!" But Taker still took a lovely DDT. However, Cowboy Bob's appearance, complete with cast, pulled everybody back in. Definitely good finish.

Yea, Trish. Sorry you're having to sell for the bimbette.

Shawn probably got the softest pop I've ever heard on his entrance. And the "You suck" for Kurt was probably the most perfect in timing, cadence & volume. The crowd was definitely looking for an Angle win (& a fantastic match) from the get-go. Lots of nice mat-based stuff at the beginning of the match -- remember though, that's easier to appreciate on TV where you have the optimum camera angles & close-ups -- from halfway up the arena, the crowd starts to get antsy. Looked from where I was like Shawn might have slipped a tiny bit on the take-off for the intended table spot -- that might have had something to do with the table not breaking & the subsequent "replan" discussion. Kurt's moonsault was lovely, & I was soooo glad he didn't Lesnar the landing! This was a good, good match -- can't wait to see it on TV for comparison.

(We did notice that it was the SD table, & not the Spanish Announce Table that was in peril.)

During the Piper/Austin segment, Roddy was getting better pops than Steve, at least in my section. This went over really well in the arena. Carlito did a splendid job of holding his own with those guys. Cool.

You had to know that it was to be a sumo "exhibition" as soon as they a) took down the ring ropes, & b) rolled out the flooring with the sumo ring about a foot shy of the edges of the ring. I don't really think anybody was going to risk Akebono going out of the ring *&* over the edge of the ring. I looked, with binoculars: it wasn't that bad! Nowhere near as bad as Rikishi! In fact, Big Show has quite a lot of muscle in his thighs. It could have been much, much worse!!

They rained the JBL money all over the arena! Many people were more interested in watching that flutter down than they were in watching the match. I wasn't really into this match at all, & it didn't feel like I was alone. We'll watch the money flutter down, either Cena will win or JBL's staff will cheat, nothing novel will happen. My thought was that it was mercifully over fast. (Some of y'all said you thought it was booked short. I'm not convinced that we didn't call an audible to pull the plug earlier than planned.)

The monkies [/Jericho] were scrambling their asses off to get Motorhead set up. I didn't even know we were expecting them. (Their drummer was wearing a HHH tank top -- nice touch.) I was behind the setup, so I didn't actually see how HHH appeared -- he was just suddenly there onstage. How cool is that? Dave, make a note: Get a band.

I was really into this match. Now granted, that's a whole lotta my favouritest beefcake out there, but still... HHH gets a *lot* of cheers, in spite of being the uber-heel, & Batista got an immense reaction. There was a certain amount of "Since Cena just won, there's no way they'll put Batista over" sentiment, but they brought the crowd around. I really enjoyed it, thought it was very good, had some great spots, & Hunter did one of his biggest blade jobs ever for Dave. I was a happy girl!

And Dave was quite the happy guy. HHH has said in a couple of interviews that it's important to "be in the moment" & enjoy those big moments when they happen. Dave listened. He was out in the ring for quite a while, just soaking it up, even before he went to posing. Took plenty of time posing, showing the title, & generally just having a whole lotta happiness. I'm guessing that was mom & dad in the front row that he hugged. It was wonderfully nice.

I had a great time!
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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.26
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    First of all, the Hassan throat cutting gesture is completely out of line. I mean, I know the character is horribly offensive at best, but to simulate cutting someone's throat is way out of line.
Yet its ok when Benoit does it?



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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.98
    Originally posted by PerthHeat
      Originally posted by flairforthegold13
      First of all, the Hassan throat cutting gesture is completely out of line. I mean, I know the character is horribly offensive at best, but to simulate cutting someone's throat is way out of line.
    Yet its ok when Benoit does it?


I refuse to believe that you don't know what he's talking about or the differences involved.


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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.92
    Originally posted by PerthHeat
      Originally posted by flairforthegold13
      First of all, the Hassan throat cutting gesture is completely out of line. I mean, I know the character is horribly offensive at best, but to simulate cutting someone's throat is way out of line.
    Yet its ok when Benoit does it?


Benoit's done that for YEARS and it means "Okay, it's time to finish things."

When Hassan does it, I think it's more an attempt at cheap heat while meaning the same thing as Benoit's gesture does...sorta.

Oh, and the "I PAID FOR BLOOOODDDD!!!" AWARDS:
-TRIPLE H: For his manly bladejob that neither me or my friends could tell when he did. He went down for the "catapult into the post" spot and he hadn't bladed. When he bounced off and stumbled around, he HAD. Whend did he do it? He's magic!
-CHRIS BENOIT: Opened up stitches and wrestled with the crimson mask for the second time in a week.
-KURT ANGLE: Took a knee to the face, may've lost a tooth or two, but still managed to make the Heartbreak Kid tap out.
-REY MYSTERIO: Might've been bleeding from the mouth.

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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.82

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Benoit's gesture across his OWN throat, where as Hassan drew the "cut" across Eugene's throat...as if to symbolize beheading him?

If I'm correct, that's pretty distasteful. I'm not going to scream and wet myself or anything, but I can see where a good amount of folks would be offended.






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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.53
    Originally posted by Freeway420
    TRIPLE H: For his manly bladejob that neither me or my friends could tell when he did. He went down for the "catapult into the post" spot and he hadn't bladed. When he bounced off and stumbled around, he HAD. Whend did he do it? He's magic!

He does it as he falls away from the post. It was slickly done (and deep, too), but still quite visible on the replay.

I'm fairly glad I didn't pay to see this show. It was nice to see almost solid wrestling from top to bottom, with next to no backstage nonsense. The non-wrestling bits (Austin, Hogan) served to wake up the crowd, which is tough to do out here in L.A. But there wasn't a single thing on this show that screamed "Wrestlemania". No legit surprises.

I really hope that Cena/JBL was cut for time and that wasn't the planned match. Simply because that was one of the best recap packages since Austin/Rock at X-Seven. It REALLY fired me up for a match that I wasn't even interested in a week ago.

I may take a bit of heat for this, but I don't get the love for the Shelton clothesline spot. Yes, the running up the ladder was neat, but the clothesline itself looked like crap.

Top 3 matches for me were:
1. Angle/HBK
2. Orton/Taker
3. Money in the Bank (Even though they jumped RIGHT into the ladder spots. Give the crowd what they want to see, I guess.)
Everything else was fair to forgettable. Probably the Mania with the least potential for repeat viewings.





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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.99
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    He does it as he falls away from the post. It was slickly done (and deep, too), but still quite visible on the replay.


Was it just me, or did the color look a little off? It looked like he was bleeding tanning oil. Or my hard-earned money.



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#60 Posted on
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    Probably the Mania with the least potential for repeat viewings.




I submit for your approval:
Wrestlemania IX and Wrestlemania XI

I'd watch 21 way more than I would these two stinkers. I thought it was paced pretty well, didn't feel like it dragged too much unlike last year. For me, last year had the blowaway title matches, this year had a stronger undercard and the title matches left something to be desired.
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I could see Flair initially aligning himself with HHH only to turn on him and rejoin with Orton, citing that HHH is nothing but a Flair wannabe. I agree with a lot of people, though, they need to wait on this angle.
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