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Excalibur05
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#1 Posted on
Good show overall. I felt bad for the women being squished between Rock/Hogan and HHH/Jericho.

I was 7/12 in picking matches tonight (I didn't include the Hardcore match) so "yay me", I guess.

The Rock/Hogan match was really great for nostalgia's sake.
For all the poor build up, tonight it FELT like WrestleMania.



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#2 Posted on
Hey, haven't posted in awhile, but I'll say it, I thought Rock/Hogan should have been the main event. It felt like Hogan's last match, and should probably be. Also, Jericho/HHH just didn't interest me after screaming my guts out like crazy for the Rock/Hogan classic. Rock getting booed and working with it was genius (and it almost teased the heel turn I was hoping for). And there won't be a better moment than him getting over by the end and them both posing and hugging. The story was ALL told in the ring and personally, I'm going to say it's my favorite wrestlemania match. EVER. Period. Call me a mark, I am. I was a Hogan mark back in the day and still count Rock in my top five (Always below Angle of course). Also, I was really surprised by DDP/Christian and can't wait for either of these two to break out. Tag Match had less heat than expected but the Chucky/Billy match got my approval. All in all, this was a GREAT Wrestlemania, somewhat marred by the fact that Triple H/Jericho was the main event. Also, Booker/Edge was just okay and Angle/Kane didn't deliver the goods, but all in all everything was solid.

(edited by WhoBettahThanDeion on 17.3.02 2112)
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#3 Posted on
Rock finally won and a face leaves WM as World Champion.

That's a plus right there.

Rock - Hogan was UNREAL. Even though, Rock did win - he seemed a little hurt that he was booed. Kinda like the way Kobe Bryant was at the All-Star game. Except Rock lives in Miami of course.

They could've turned Rock heel right there - but do you seriously think they expected Rock to get so much heel heat?




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Since: 2.3.02
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#4 Posted on
I clearly expect Hogan to turn heel again tomorrow night on RAW. I can't understand why they had Hall & Nash assault Hogan. But, I really hope Hogan turns heel again tomorrow night. Then, we get X-Pac back, and the nWo would really make some noise.

I also expect RVD to be IC champ until Benoit returns. For some time, the WWF has been planning a possible storyline in which Van Dam & Benoit will finally fight each other. And I think that with the IC title involved, it makes a lot of sense for RVD to stay champ until Benoit comes back.

I was really hoping that HHH/Jericho would be sandwiched between the nWo matches. I was also expecting Shane McMahon to come out and help Trips win the belt. The way I see it, it kind of reminded me of WM XI in '95.
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Since: 4.1.02
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#5 Posted on
I agree with ya there. I enjoyed the show, and thought they really pulled it out. They did a good job of giving it that Wrestlemania feel. It might have something to do with the gigantic crowd. However, there were some dull spots, but that's to be expected in a four hour card. A lot of my non-wrestling fan friends that were over got pretty bored at some points in the night. The one thing I would have changed would have been the lack of a crazy high spot match. That's always good for the casual fans to keep their interest, and entertaining for the hardcore fans as well. I guess match after match where it was just one on one with no stipulation can tend to drag a little. One crazy ladder or a TLC match would have given it some more variety. But other than that I really didn't have any complaints. Good show overall. I was hyped for HBK to be involved, but I've learned not to get my hopes for special "surprise" appearances.



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#6 Posted on
"The Rock/Hogan match was really great for nostalgia's sake"
what?...just because jr says something doesn't mean you have to go along with it. I don't get that excited when the Andy Grifith show comes on

there was some other force at play during that match, that was the most electrical, intense, awesome moment in wrestling history. for me anyways. Hulkamania still lives like it or not, and maybe stronger than ever.

and what's with this Saliva?...man that music bites the big one, nothing worse than depressed teenagers voicing their anger and rage to the world through song....especialy at WM

I LOVE YOU HULK HOGAN
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#7 Posted on
A couple of quick thoughts about WM:

-I loved the whole Rock/Hogan thing. The crowd was amazing. Listening to the announcers try to deal with this surreal reaction was priceless. And I dug the ending...IF this is truly Hogan's last match. If he never wrestles again, then he went out wonderfully and I am glad of it.

-Sadly, that was about the only ending I dug in the major matches. While I think Austin going over is right, watching him beat up Hall and Nash at once just seemed like pointless burial to me. Flair now got to have his ass kicked by UT, his family's honor is still lost, and they got to make the 2 legacy Horsemen UT's bitch just to make sure the concept is totally dead and buried. But hey, UT is 10-0, isn't that cool? *pukes*

-And then the title match...well, I guess I could get all excited about another 9 months of Angle vs. HHH. Or maybe a scintillating series of HHH v. UT matches. Or if I'm really lucky, we'll get HHH v. Nash. And hey, Chris...hope you enjoyed that brush with the topcard....Kane and Edge are waiting to welcome you back to the midcard.



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Since: 12.3.02
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#8 Posted on


    and what's with this Saliva?...man that music bites the big one, nothing worse than depressed teenagers voicing their anger and rage to the world through song....



I dunno. Bad as Saliva was, I think Drowning Pool outdid themselves in throroughly fucking up "My Time."

One of these days I'm gonna find out what the WWF's obsession with getting Drowning Pool over with is, then I'm gonna build a time machine and stop it from ever having happened.





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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by WhoBettahThanDeion
    Hey, haven't posted in awhile, but I'll say it, I thought Rock/Hogan should have been the main event.


I'm in agreement there, too. Going into the event I totally was hoping they would do the title match last. But after watching it I realize it should have been flipped around with Hogan/Rock last. There was no way any match would touch that in terms of electricity. But maybe they didn't realize that going in.

And I have feeling that the reason they did the assault on Hogan was because he will be out for a while. I had read that his ribs had been bothering him, and it sure looked like it from the post match celebration. Maybe they will sit him out a while, and give one big farewell run, or match, a few months from now. I really thought either HBK would come in as the new leader of the NWO tonight, or HHH would turn. But I'm glad they didn't do a turn in the main event since they did that last year. It was nice to see a pretty straightforward match with the face going over. Maybe HBK will come in tomorrow 'cause they defintely need someone else in the NWO now.



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#10 Posted on
I'll admit, I was unsure I was watching this thing up until 30 minutes before showtime, but I figured if something really cool happened, it's best to see it live than read about it later.
Take Rock/Hogan out of the card, and this would be an average Wrestlemania at best (man, did Triple H and Jericho feel flat ... and whose brilliant idea was it to put the Women's match AFTER Rock/Hogan? What the hell were they thinking?). But what a match. I couldn't believe how well the whole thing went down. The Rock's face when he heard the crowd's boos. The Hulk kicking out and pointing the finger. The legdrop. The Rock Bottom. The handshake. The hug. It was vintage '80s WWF meeting the Attitude era - just like they promised. Man, this match should be mandatory viewing for everyone in the company - this is how you do it. Great storytelling IN THE RING. Does anyone know how to do it any more?
This match alone was worth forking over the coin. Don't know how they'll screw it all up on Raw, but for now, it's all good.
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Since: 12.2.02
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#11 Posted on
I'm not too surprised by the fans booing Rock. Probably many of the Internet heel worshippers got tickets.

Plusses:

They revived the 24/7 aspect of the Hardcore Title. Al Snow driving into the crates missing Spike and Crash reminded me of the currently running Midas/Yugo commercial. It was the funniest sh--. Then the segments got funnier and funnier, with Hurricane swinging on a rope, Molly and the pan, Christian with the swinging top door, and Maven finally leaving the arena teasing Christian with the title.

All of the matches were top notch. No one was slacking off.

UT/Flair was great storytelling. AA got involved!! And UT used the tombstone and the R.I.P. pin.

Hogan/Rock. Some said it shuld have been the main event. It was main event like Lawrence Taylor/Bam Bam Bigelow was main event. That is, should not be. The Undisputed title should be, as it was, the main event.

Stephanie was wearing the pantset to make sure nothing was exposed, but you can still see the hard tits peeking. uess you can have some feeling there after enlargement.

HHH pedigreeing Stephanie, as I predicted.


Minuses:

No Pete Rose or Bret Hart.

Sheepish fans. I thought Canadians loved wrestling. They booed The Rock loudly, but when he won, they cheered him like he was a god. Then they went collectively comatose during the women's match. "What's up with that??"

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#12 Posted on


Sheepish fans. I thought Canadians loved wrestling. They booed The Rock loudly, but when he won, they cheered him like he was a god. Then they went collectively comatose during the women's match. "What's up with that??"




I don't think they were cheering for the Rock as much as they were showing their approval for the match they just saw. Canadian fans DO love wrestling - it was a sign of respect.

As for going comatose during the women's match, I think the fact the match sucked ass has plenty to do with it. I'm sorry, Trish Stratus never was and never will be a good wrestler. Lita has two or three moves, and looks lost when she strays from them. And Jazz must be the most bland female on the entire roster. This match was cancer after Rock/Hogan.
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#13 Posted on
Like Heenan once said you land in Canada turn the clock back twenty years. That's why Hogan got a monster pop. The guy will wrestle five more years because of this match , and we'll be cursuing the crowd. Hogan is gonna get another face run which will be highlighted by him beating every young guy , and having garbage match after garbage match. Flair is still God amazing job by him carrying Undertaker to one of his best matches ever. Can't take Steph. Austin deserved better than facing Scott Drunk off his ass Hall. Nash is a joke it will be too ugly for words when he wrestles full-time again. Triple H will join the NWO Watch then his talentless buddies will get big pushes. Christian imo is way better than Edge just doesn't have his size which is more important than talent to Vince. What did it accomplish putting 52 year old DDP over Christian? ''Stand back new champ coming through was a funny quote by Christian. Jericho played second fiddle to Steph now loses the title now what? Jobbing to X-Pac I bet. Oh yeah poor Kurt Angle shunted back to the midcard facing a dead gimmick and not even beating him clean. What are they protecting Kane for? His career is dead.

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Excalibur05
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#14 Posted on
    Originally posted by shaft
    Take Rock/Hogan out of the card, and this would be an average Wrestlemania at best (man, did Triple H and Jericho feel flat ... and whose brilliant idea was it to put the Women's match AFTER Rock/Hogan? What the hell were they thinking?).


To let the crowd settle down in between. They knew the women's match wouldn't have any heat anyway, so you stick it in there to let the crowd catch their breath.

(edited by Excalibur05 on 17.3.02 2153)
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#15 Posted on
I've seen every Wrestlemania...most of them live. The last time I had so much electricity running through my veins during a match was at Wrestlemania VI, Hogan vs. Warrior. Say what you want about Hulk Hogan, but the man elicits pure emotion from the audience. That is why the man is the greatest wrestling star of all time. Nobody could be gone from an organization for 9 years, come back supposedly as a heel...and become a face through sheer emotional force. I thought the crowd might be split...I *never* in a million years would have predicted such a pro-Hogan crowd.

I can't fault the WWF for not putting that match last--the title match DESERVES top billing; however, it took so much out of the crowd, they really didn't have much left in the tank to give Jericho and Triple H. Hindsight being 20/20, you put Rock/Hogan last.

Saliva was ok. They did a good job with the Dudley theme. Drowning Pool was absolutely awful. I'm not even sure what that song they played when Triple H walked to the ring was supposed to be.

The Hardcore stuff was entertaining. I love that Maven stole Christian's cab and took off with Christian's bag still in the trunk.

I thought Kurt Angle was phenomenal.

The second biggest highlight to me next to the whole Hogan/Rock match was Arn Anderson busting out the SPINEBUSTER!!! Holy shite, that was beautiful. Flair/Undertaker was another drama filled match--just fantastic.

Almost every match featured either one or both participants as former PPV headliners. Just truly amazing.

I will read the recaps, Scott Keith's review and everything...but for pure emotion and how I feel about this PPV...not sure if you can put stars on it. Not sure that it matters.

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#16 Posted on
I just got back from the show-the crowd was absolutely electric for the entire Rock-Hogan match, from start to finish. Unfortunately, no one was interested in the women's match(which was fine), but the lack of interest continued into the main event. It didn't help that Hunter and Jericho didn't put on an exciting match. It's obvious the last match should have been Hogan-Rock.

Overall, though, a very good time at a very good show. I'll post some photos and more detailed notes(including dinner with a hilarious Jason Sensation) later Monday. Right now I need to wash this green out of my hair and get ready for a 10am presentation at a partner's office in Mississauga. Yikes.
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#17 Posted on

    Originally posted by Excalibur05[quotemid

    To let the crowd settle down in between. The knew the women's match wouldn't have any heat anyway, so you stick it in there to let the crowd catch their breath.



I guess. I just figure the last hour of Wrestlemania should be balls to the wall - put your three main events back-to-back-to-back and leave the crowd exhausted. This is the big one, after all. I actually think the Women's Match deflated everything so badly, it was hard to get it up for Triple H/Jericho again.
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#18 Posted on
Al Snow with the ref in the golf cart driving into the boxes was too funny. Al is great.
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#19 Posted on
I went 7-3 in predictions (and I would`ve predicted Maven to win, which he eventually did). Woo!

Would anyone have expected The Hurricane & Mighty Molly to be a part of WrestleMania, but not Vince?

I figured Hulk would go out as a face, I just figured they`d wait a little longer before the turn. The whole match was just surreal.

There wasn`t a really bad match. Hall/Austin was surprisingly forgettable. The finish to Angle/Kane came out of nowhere and was a bit disappointing, considering it was another solid match from them.

Taker/Flair was possibly the best overall match of the night. A compelling brawl, unlike Flair/McMahon which I couldn`t get into, without the all-but-guaranteed Vince run-in I expected.

The Women`s Title match was quite good too, maybe one of the best yet. One year ago, the Women`s Title match was Chyna squashin Ivory. Wow.

And I was certainly rooting for Jericho and disappointed that he lost, but at least the title match was the true main event.
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#20 Posted on

    Originally posted by shaft[quotemidThis is the big one, after all. I actually think the Women's Match deflated everything so badly, it was hard to get it up for Triple H/Jericho again.


I think it had more to do with the Hogan/Rock match. That was a very tough act to follow, and I thought that if HHH/Jericho was saved for last, something really big was going to happen there. I would've gone for something similar to the NWO giving HHH unsolicited assistance in an attempt to recruit their old buddy to take Hogan's spot. Just a thought.



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