I'm surprised there is no World Juniors thread here...
What are folks' thoughts on the final? Canada has absolutely dominated the tournament, and my lil' brain tells me there's no way that should change now. But my intuition tells me the Russian side is always dangerous, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they upset the favoured Canadians en route to gold, thus continuing Canada's stint as perpetual bridesmaids the last few years.
I know the Russians surprised a lot of people when they whooped the Americans in that semi-final, but I think the only way Canada is going to lose against the Russians is if Canada beats themselves. That is, they got too confidant or they don't play with as much energy as they've shown throughout the tournament.
I really doubt Canada's going to lose this year, though.
Originally posted by AMG2K2I know the Russians surprised a lot of people when they whooped the Americans in that semi-final, but I think the only way Canada is going to lose against the Russians is if Canada beats themselves. That is, they got too confidant or they don't play with as much energy as they've shown throughout the tournament.
I really doubt Canada's going to lose this year, though.
Don't forget, you could have made the exact same post a year ago...and what happened? The Russians still have Ovechkin and Malkin, and you never know how kids that age are going to respond to the big game.
Wow -- I didn't expect *that* kind of a blowout! We were so dissapointed in the game we left the bar at the end of the second period. What a terrible hockey game to watch -- that's not entertainment, that's pain. The Russian goalies were just stupdendously bad. I cringed every time they faced a shot.
I would imagine it was NOT a fun day to be a member of that team once the game was over, and especially not fun to be one of the goalies... 'cuz that was embaressing. The Russian team is so much better than a 6-1 mercy killing, no matter how extraordinary the Canadian side is this year. "Dissapointed" is just the perfect word for it.
I felt particularly bad for my girlfriend, who grew up in Soviet Ukraine -- whenever Canada and Russia meet, she takes the Russian side and I take the Canadian side. Just for fun, really, but tonight -- ouch. It sure was hard to be a Russia supporter. Good thing she isn't a true fan, lest she had been reduced to tears by their sadsack performance.
Russia deserved the ass kicking after the way they played and acted throughout the tournament.
A quote from Pierre McGuire, "The Americans left the arena today begging the Canadians to beat the Russians."
The stick work, the diving, the lack of class, the Russians were brought back to reality. I enjoyed Ovechkin being brought to tears after the game when he was booed by the crowd while accepting his medal. Perhaps the kid will take this and figure out if he wants to use his talent to be a great player or be Alexei Yashin.
Also, with the score 6-1, the Canadians let up in the 3rd Period instead of trying to rub it in. That's class. No diving and showboating after empty net goals.
I disagree that the Russian team is so much better then getting beat 6-1 because when the Canadians tested them physically, they crumbled and quit.
"When did they pass a law that says the people who make my sandwich have to be wearing gloves? I'm not comfortable with this. I don't want glove residue all over my food; it's not sanitary. Who knows where these gloves have been?" - George Carlin
And how about Dion Phaneuf, who was bouncing players around all game (including a nice double takeout in the second leading to Patrice Bergeron's goal, a play that Pierre Maguire called a "Double Dion")... The Flames future looks bright.
"Illusions, Michael. A trick is something a whore does for money...or candy!" - G.O.B. Bluth, Arrested Development
Pierre isn't fit to starch Don's ultra-stiff-necked collar, let alone take his job.
I didn't say the Russian side was better than the Canadian, or even as good... but they are *not* a team who should be losing 6-1 after the 2nd period. Their goaltending was atrocious, making for a poor game to watch. Regardless of whether they were unsportsmanlike, they were not, by any stretch, untalented -- and thus I was dissapointed. It would have been SO much more satisfying to see a close game in which Canada pulled out a stunning victory, than a sad blow out.
Honestly, TSN turned me off of this whole tournament by shoving it down my throat for the last MONTH. Geez, I know you want Mackenzie and Maguire to justify their paycheques, but Jesus, it's just a junior hockey tournament. Canada was going to win by a mile anyway, so it's not like there was any great suspense.
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I don't think calling it "just a junoir hockey tournament" does it justice, especially to fans here in Canada. Yearly, it's probably second to the Stanley Cup to hockey fans. I tend to go watch the World Juniors, but don't bother with the World Cup (or Spengler Cup, or any of the others), because it's fresh faces and exciting hockey.
As for Canada being a lock to win... that was the case for the last what? Seven years? Yet Canada always came up short. I seem to remember a certain Olympics where Canada was a "sure thing", and came up short. The seven year drought lured in many a hockey fan, and they wanted to see that drought end. There was never a foregone conclusion.
Why people make such ridiculous claims about the oft-surprising world of sport baffles me.
Originally posted by Big BadHonestly, TSN turned me off of this whole tournament by shoving it down my throat for the last MONTH. Geez, I know you want Mackenzie and Maguire to justify their paycheques, but Jesus, it's just a junior hockey tournament. Canada was going to win by a mile anyway, so it's not like there was any great suspense.
Perhaps not, but consider that not only is this a tournament that traditionally has a very strong following in Canada but it's also (likely) the only hockey of consequence that is going to be played until sometime late next year. A lot of people I know who are usually only hockey fans during the Olympics or if there is a Flames-like Cup run were into it as much as they get into sports. People are starved for hockey right now, so I don't blame TSN for milking the WJHC for all it's worth.
And you can go ahead and shoot Pierre McGuire. He's the Joe Theismann of hockey - the next intelligent, insightful comment he makes will be the first.
I think the biggest difference between Cloutier and Hedberg is with Cloutier you know what you're going to get. He'll be OK and make most of the stops he should make, but he's not going to steal any games for you. He's consistently average.