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Zeruel
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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.12
Group G what-if scenarios

Germany 1-1-0 6GF 2GA +4GD 4pts
USA 1-1-0 4GF 3GA +1GD 4pts
Ghana 0-1-1 3GF 4GA -1GD 1pt
Portugal 0-1-1 2GF 6GA -4GD 1pt

Games remaining
USA vs Germany
Portugal vs Ghana

Germany advances with a: win or draw OR Portugal/Ghana draw OR loss and have a better GD in Portugal/Ghana winner
USA advances with a: win or draw OR Portugal/Ghana draw OR loss and Portugal win and better GD than Portugal OR loss and Ghana win and same GD and GF as Ghana (head-to-head win)
Ghana advances with a: win and better GD than Germany/USA winner
Portugal advances with a: win and better GD than Germany/USA winner

Portugal is eliminated with a: draw OR Germany/USA draw OR loss OR win and less GD than Germany/USA winner
Ghana is eliminated with a: draw OR Germany/USA draw OR loss OR win and USA loss and same GD and GF as USA (head-to-head loss)
Germany/USA is eliminated with a: loss and lower GD than Portugal/Ghana winner


1) USA beats Germany, Portugal beats Ghana
USA 7pts
Germany 4pts
Portugal 4pts
Ghana 1pt

USA advances
Germany advances unless Portugal wins by 7 goals (1 less for every goal USA wins by over 1GD)

If USA wins 1-0, Germany has 6GF 3GA +3GD and if Portugal wins 7-0, they have 9GF 6GA +3GD and advance on GF

If USA wins 3-2, Germany has 8GF 5GA +3GD and if Portugal wins 7-0, they have 9GF 6GA +3GD and still advances on GF

2) Germany beats USA, Portugal beats Ghana
Germany 7pts
USA 4pts
Portugal 4pts
Ghana 1pt

Germany advances
USA advances unless Portugal wins by 4 goals (1 less for every goal USA loses by over 1GD)

If USA loses 0-1, USA has 4GF 4GA 0GD, if Portugal wins 4-0, they have 6GF 6GA 0GD and advance on GF

If USA loses 1-2, USA has 5GF 5GA 0GD, if Portugal wins 4-0, they have 6GF 6GA 0GD and still advance on GF

3) USA draws Germany, Portugal beats Ghana
Germany 5pts
USA 5pts
Portugal 4pts
Ghana 1pt

Germany and USA advance

4) USA beats Germany, Ghana beats Portugal
USA 7pts
Germany 4pts
Ghana 4pts
Portugal 1pt

USA advances
Germany advances unless Ghana wins by 4 goals (1 less for every goal USA wins by over 1GD)

If USA wins 1-0, Germany has 6GF 3GA +3GD and if Ghana wins 4-0, they have 7GF 4GA +3GD and advance on GF

If USA wins 2-1, Germany has 7GF 4GA +3GD and if Ghana wins 5-1, they have 8GF 5GA +3GD and still advances on GF

If Germany and Ghana have same GD and GF, they will draw lots because their game eneded in a draw

5) Germany beats USA, Ghana beats Portugal
Germany 7pts
USA 4pts
Ghana 4pts
Portugal 1pt

Germany advances
USA advances unless Ghana wins by 2 goals or more or USA loses by 2 goals

If USA loses 0-1, USA has 4GF 4GA 0GD, if Ghana wins 2-0, they have 5GF 4GA 1GD and advance on GF

If USA loses 0-2, USA has 4GF 6GA -1GD, if Ghana wins 2-0, they have 5GF 4GA 0GD and advance on GD

*If the games are decided by one goal each, USA advances

If USA loses 0-1, USA has 4GF 4GA 0GD, if Ghana wins 1-0, they have 4GF 4GA 0GD and USA advances because they defeated Ghana head-to-head

If USA loses 3-4, USA has 7GF 7GA 0GD, if Ghana wins 4-3, they have 7GF 7GA 0GD and USA still advances because they defeated Ghana head-to-head

6) USA draws Germany, Ghana beats Portugal
Germany 5pts
USA 5pts
Ghana 4pts
Portugal 1pt

Germany and USA advance

7) USA beats Germany, Portugal draws Ghana
USA 7pts
Germany 4pts
Ghana 2pts
Portugal 2pts

USA and Germany advance

8) Germany beats USA, Portugal draws Ghana
Germany 7pts
USA 4pts
Ghana 2pts
Portugal 2pts

Germany and USA advance

9) USA draws Germany, Portugal draws Ghana
Germany 5pts
USA 5pts
Ghana 2pts
Portugal 2pts

Germany and USA advance


(edited by Zeruel on 23.6.14 0254)


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Zeruel
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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.12
Group H what-if scenarios

Belgium 2-0-0 3GF 1GA +2GD 6pts

Algeria 1-0-1 5GF 4GA +1GD 3pts
Russia 0-1-1 1GF 2GA -1GD 1pt
South Korea 0-1-1 3GF 5GA -2GD 1pt

Belgium advances

Games remaining:
South Korea vs Belgium
Algeria vs Russia

Algeria advances with a: win OR draw and South Korea loss or draw OR draw and South Korea win (on GD or GD/GF tie (head-to-head))
Russia advances with a: win and South Korea loss or draw OR win and South Korea win (on GD)
South Korea advances with a: win and Algeria/Russia draw OR win and Algeria or Russia win (on GD)


1) South Korea beats Belgium, Algeria beats Russia
Belgium 6pts
Algeria 6pts
South Korea 4pts
Russia 1pt

Belgium and Algeria advance. Algeria takes first by having better GD or same GD (more GF) than Belgium

2) Belgium beats South Korea, Algeria beats Russia
Belgium 9pts
Algeria 6pts
South Korea 1pt
Russia 1pt

Belgium and Algeria advance

3) South Korea draws Belgium, Algeria beats Russia
Belgium 7pts
Algeria 6pts
South Korea 2pts
Russia 1pt

Belgium and Algeria advance

4) South Korea beats Belgium, Russia beats Algeria
Belgium 6pts
Russia 4pt
South Korea 4pts
Algeria 3pts

Belgium advances.
Russia advances if they have better GD.
South Korea advances if they have better GD or same GD (better GF)


5) Belgium beats South Korea, Russia beats Algeria
Belgium 9pts
Russia 4pts
Algeria 3pts
South Korea 1pt

Belgium and Russia advance

6) South Korea draws Belgium, Russia beats Algeria
Belgium 7pts
Russia 4pts
Algeria 3pts
South Korea 2pts

Belgium and Russia advance

7) South Korea beats Belgium, Algeria draws Russia
Belgium 6pts
Algeria 4pts
South Korea 4pts
Russia 2pts

Belgium advances
Algeria advances unless South Korea has better GD. If they have same GD and GF, Algeria advances (head-to-head)

8) Belgium beats South Korea, Algeria draws Russia
Belgium 9pts
Algeria 4pts
Russia 2pts
South Korea 1pt

Belgium and Algeria advance

9) South Korea draws Belgium, Algeria draws Russia
Belgium 7pts
Algeria 4pts
Russia 2pts
South Korea 2pts

Belgium and Algeria advance




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TheBucsFan
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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.67
This tournament was supposed to be Michael Bradley's time to shine. Instead, he has been the worst player on the team. And so many stupid mistakes - not taking the ball into the corner in the dying seconds against Ghana, which resulted in a Ghana breakaway that thankfully amounted to nothing foreshadowed his stupid careless giveaway to send Ronaldo streaking down the righthand side en route to the equalizer at the death.

What a disappointment.
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.39
As a Broncos fan & a Rangers fan, I'm used to this.



I know my kids are trying to kill me


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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.67
I do expect the US to advance though. Germany-US will be a boring draw.
whatever
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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.24
    Originally posted by dunkndollaz
    As a Broncos fan & a Rangers fan, I'm used to this.
As a Browns fan, I have to angrily shake my fist at you.

That was a heckuva match. The US looked so much better on offense than they did against Ghana, it was like night and day to me. Yeah, it sucks that they lost the auto qualifying, but they still have a good shot and they didn't lose. Not bad at all.




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thecubsfan
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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.41
I started to look at the possible playoff schedule for the US late in the game yesterday - yes, it's all my fault - and noticed that if the US won their group and won their quarterfinal (Algeria?) they'd have a quarterfinal game on July 4th. Yesterday's game broke all sorts of soccer TV records here. A USA game on Independence Day would shatter them.

(2nd place and a win over probably Belgium? puts them on July 5th, which would also do good but not be as crazy.)



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Zeruel
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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.12
4 spots filled

1A Brazil
2B Chile

1C
2D

1E
2F

1G
2H




1B Netherlands
2A Mexico

1D
2C

1F
2E

1H
2G



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Zeruel
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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.12
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    I started to look at the possible playoff schedule for the US late in the game yesterday - yes, it's all my fault - and noticed that if the US won their group and won their quarterfinal (Algeria?) they'd have a quarterfinal game on July 4th. Yesterday's game broke all sorts of soccer TV records here. A USA game on Independence Day would shatter them.

    (2nd place and a win over probably Belgium? puts them on July 5th, which would also do good but not be as crazy.)


Yeah, a quarterfinal on July 4 would be AWESOME. We have to win the group, and you are right, Algeria is on the inside track for 2nd.

Russia is still alive for 2nd if they beat Algeria and a South Korea loss/draw.



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Zeruel
Thirty Millionth Hit
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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.12
#* Signifies how many World Cup victories

1A Brazil 5* -CONMEBOL
2B Chile -CONMEBOL

1C Columbia CONMEBOL
2D Uruguay 2* -CONMEBOL

1E
2F

1G
2H




1B Netherlands -UEFA
2A Mexico -CONCACAF

1D Costa Rica -CONCACAF
2C Greece -UEFA

1F
2E

1H
2G


Confederation breakdown:
AFC 0/8
CAF 0/8
CONCACAF 2/8
CONMEBOL 4/8
UEFA 2/8

Ex-champions out:
Italy 4*
Spain 1*
England 1*



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texasranger9
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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
Is "The Bite" going to be bigger than "The Headbutt"? I don't think so. "The Headbutt" was done by a Legend in the WC Finals.

I don't know why the double post. I tried to delete it.

(edited by texasranger9 on 24.6.14 1816)
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(deleted by texasranger9 on 24.6.14 1816)
kwik
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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.39
    Originally posted by texasranger9
    Is "The Bite" going to be bigger than "The Headbutt"? I don't think so. "The Headbutt" was done by a Legend in the WC Finals.

    I don't know why the double post. I tried to delete it.

    (edited by texasranger9 on 24.6.14 1816)


It won't be bigger, but if it's true, this is strike 3 for Suarez. His international career is done. He should (but probably won't) sit for a long time for this.





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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.48
    Originally posted by kwik
    It won't be bigger, but if it's true, this is strike 3 for Suarez. His international career is done. He should (but probably won't) sit for a long time for this.



So I guess you could say Suarez...(puts on sunglasses)...bit off more than he could chew.



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Zeruel
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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.12
#* Signifies how many World Cup victories

1A Brazil 5* -CONMEBOL
2B Chile -CONMEBOL

1C Columbia CONMEBOL
2D Uruguay 2* -CONMEBOL

1E France 1* -UEFA
2F Nigeria -CAF

1G Germany 3* -UEFA
2H




1B Netherlands -UEFA
2A Mexico -CONCACAF

1D Costa Rica -CONCACAF
2C Greece -UEFA

1F Argentina 2* -CONMEBOL
2E Switzerland -UEFA

1H
2G USA -CONCACAF


Confederation breakdown:
AFC 0/14
CAF 1/14
CONCACAF 3/14
CONMEBOL 5/14
UEFA 5/14

Ex-champions out:
Italy 4*
Spain 1*
England 1*


(edited by Zeruel on 26.6.14 1352)

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dMr
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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.98
Sometimes nothing can be a real cool result.

Portugal have to be kicking themselves for the opening hammering against Germany. If Pepe doesn't act like a moron they probably don't need to score a hatful in the last game to go through.

(Presumably) Belgium will be tough but they haven't looked great so far and a lot of the European countries have struggled so who knows.

Oh yeah, speaking of morons, Uruguay seems to have its share.
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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.67
I will be in the US for three weeks starting next week, but I'm actually flying over the Atlantic during the (almost certainly) Belgium match, so sadly I'm going to miss it. But I really hope they win so I can be in the country for a quarterfinals (and maybe more?) and go crazy with other people who want to go crazy about it.

Great achievement for Klinsmann and the players, and it's very exciting. But like I said, I'm still bitter about Donovan's exclusion, and I think the team would be better if he were there.

Today's game would have been more exciting had the Portugal heartbreak not happened. With qualification secured and the potential to win the group there, I'd be interested to see how the team played. If the US can beat Belgium, they will play the winner of Argentina/Switzerland.
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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.12
The knockout round is set:

#* Signifies how many World Cup victories

1A Brazil 5* -CONMEBOL
2B Chile -CONMEBOL

1C Columbia CONMEBOL
2D Uruguay 2* -CONMEBOL

1E France 1* -UEFA
2F Nigeria -CAF

1G Germany 3* -UEFA
2H Algeria - CAF




1B Netherlands -UEFA
2A Mexico -CONCACAF

1D Costa Rica -CONCACAF
2C Greece -UEFA

1F Argentina 2* -CONMEBOL
2E Switzerland -UEFA

1H Belgium - UEFA
2G USA -CONCACAF


Confederation breakdown:
CAF 2/16
CONCACAF 3/16
CONMEBOL 5/16
UEFA 6/16

Ex-champions out:
Italy 4*
Spain 1*
England 1*




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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.22
My picks - Brazil, Colombia, France, Germany, Netherlands, Costa Rica, Argentina, USA.
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#60 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.67
Regarding Suarez and his ban extending to his club play, I don't believe he should get off lightly just because the third incident happened to come in a Uruguay shirt, and I do think an international-only ban would be getting off lightly. And Liverpool fans are claiming that their club shouldn't be punished for what he does in a Uruguay shirt, but that's nonsense: They chose to keep him - and sign him to a fat extension no less - after the second incident (first as a Liverpool player) knowing that as his misdeeds piled up the punishments were only going to get steeper. What shirt he was wearing when he did it is irrelevant, if he deserves to be banned then he deserves to be banned, and that is a risk Liverpool took when they sold their integrity to stand behind a dirty, dirty player because he also happens to be very good.

It's true that Suarez wouldn't be banned from Uruguay if it happened in a Liverpool shirt, but only because the English FA doesn't have that authority. On the other hand, if it happened in a Liverpool shirt, the ban would have been much greater; as it is, he's only going to miss a few more matches this time around for his club than he did for the second biting incident, and that can only be considered a light punishment from Liverpool's perspective.

Liverpool surely have to sell him. How foolish would they look coming out yet again and telling us how reformed this lunatic is? I just can't imagine why anyone would want to buy his contract, unless they really do believe this argument that the English media - who just voted Suarez player of the year, remember - have a vendetta against him and are blowing this issue out of proportion.

P.S. - Suarez's handball against Ghana remains a moment of individual brilliance, and it's a shame some would-be pundits insist on lumping that in, even as a tangent or "by the way..." kind of thing, with his biting and his alleged racist behavior toward Patrice Evra.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 27.6.14 1201)
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