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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.18
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_56887.shtml

I'm not sure having an outdoor Wrestlemania in New Jersey in early April is a great idea. Seems like it's unnecessarily taunting the weather gods. Plus, I liked the idea of Austin having a final match and Undertaker possibly retiring at WM29 in Dallas...the two Texas legends going out in their home state.

Also, it's unfortunate that MSG is out of the Mania rotation. I know WWE make a fortune with a stadium show but man, it's the Garden.



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Well, it will probably allow me to go to my first ever Mania if the money and baby situation is fine by then. I have to say not being at MSG kinda sucks. WM 30 in Jerry's world is a bit of a let down. It is daring mother nature to do this, but the NFL is going to do it in February, so at least Vince was smart enough to do it a few months later. I am also tired of the outdoor arenas. They are fine and all, but you are setting yourself up for a rained out or snowed out Mania one year.

I probably should have gotten that $1200 ticket to WM20 I had in my digital hands through ticketmaster, but it like the Rumble that year, I would have both good and bad feelings about it. Who am I kidding, I would have jumped the guardrail after the shitty end to Rock N Sock/Evolution. And I would probably not be married if I did that either since that would have been the wedding budget. Oh well.





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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.01
I have always wondered what the big deal about Madison Square Garden was. I am from the west coast, so I've never seen it in person. Is there any substance to all of the hype that WWE gives it?
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.02
    Originally posted by Dionysus
    I have always wondered what the big deal about Madison Square Garden was. I am from the west coast, so I've never seen it in person. Is there any substance to all of the hype that WWE gives it?


Purely from an historical perspective. As a fan experience, the arena is pure and utter shit.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.25
I hope they do hold WrestleMania outdoors in New Jersey. And I hope it does rain, so WrestleMania looks like this:





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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.64
They can always put a canopy over the ring. It would restrict the camera shots, but I thought this was the plan for WM24 in the Citrus Bowl. It's the fans sitting in the seats who'd get soaked (and the wrestlers on the way to the ring lesser so.)



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.63
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    They can always put a canopy over the ring. It would restrict the camera shots, but I thought this was the plan for WM24 in the Citrus Bowl. It's the fans sitting in the seats who'd get soaked (and the wrestlers on the way to the ring lesser so.)

I'd be more worried about the temperature than precipitation. I don't know how you'd guard against that.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.96
Still hoping Hartford can return to the mix. Unless you are going to be at Mania at the New Giants Stadium, you want snow. Would make for unique visuals.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.02
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    I hope they do hold WrestleMania outdoors in New Jersey. And I hope it does rain, so WrestleMania looks like this:




How much smaller was the ring then than it is now?
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.08
    Originally posted by Hokienautic
      Originally posted by Dionysus
      I have always wondered what the big deal about Madison Square Garden was. I am from the west coast, so I've never seen it in person. Is there any substance to all of the hype that WWE gives it?


    Purely from an historical perspective. As a fan experience, the arena is pure and utter shit.


I disagree. I went to the Survivor Series 2002 with the first Elimination Chamber. You could feel the electricity when Brock got screwed out of the title and when Shawn won. The fans help make the place seem special, but there is a certain feel of history you get for big moments.



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I agree with Lotjx. I was there for that SurSer in MSG as well, and I was in the very last row. Even so, I had a great view and it felt like a big deal.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.02
    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    I agree with Lotjx. I was there for that SurSer in MSG as well, and I was in the very last row. Even so, I had a great view and it felt like a big deal.


I was there for WMXX. The event itself was electric. The arena itself is shit. Worst sports place I've ever been -- and that includes a way-past-its-prime RFK Stadium for DC United games.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.03
I can't be objective at all about Madison Square Garden, because it's been a huge part of my life--from my Grandfather taking me to the circus to three McCartney concerts and some all-star concerts that were just amazing, not to mention what a huge Ranger fan I am. But I do have to point out that the place is going through a major remodeling, so whatever you remember about how it was probably isn't true anymore, or won't be soon. (I haven't been there since this started, but I'm going next month.)
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.96
    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    I can't be objective at all about Madison Square Garden, because it's been a huge part of my life--from my Grandfather taking me to the circus to three McCartney concerts and some all-star concerts that were just amazing, not to mention what a huge Ranger fan I am. But I do have to point out that the place is going through a major remodeling, so whatever you remember about how it was probably isn't true anymore, or won't be soon. (I haven't been there since this started, but I'm going next month.)


I was there 2 weeks ago, they are revamping the seats a bit,
and it seems they are expanding the concourse which was really small and crappy.

Other than that, I've always liked the MSG, and I -hate- all of those new style cookie cutter arenas that all look & feel the same (I couldn't tell you the difference between the arenas in Orlando, Houston, Atlanta, Phoenix where I went to Raw the past post-WMs)

Regarding WM29 in NJ/open air. I don't like the idea of having to wear extra layers of clothes for WM itself.
Seats are cramped enough as it is, everyone wearing a jacket isn't going to improve that.
Plus, the shirts/shorts atmosphere they've had the past few years does add a bit of festive feeling to the whole thing.




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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.18
So apparently Cowboys Stadium is holding some March Madness games in 2013 and 2014 that will prevent the stadium from being available for Wrestlemania. So it looks like Dallas is out for WM30.

So technically, there's no reason WM30 couldn't still be at Madison Square Garden. Wouldn't be the first time the same market has gotten Mania in back-to-back years, and the NYC/Jersey area can certainly handle it.



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#17 Posted on
Could New Orleans be in contention at any point? Having just moved to Texas this past year, I was liking the chance that Dallas would get one of the next two - and wouldn't hate to have one in driving distance.

Not saying my flight's not booked to Miami... but was hoping for a close one.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.77
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    So technically, there's no reason WM30 couldn't still be at Madison Square Garden. Wouldn't be the first time the same market has gotten Mania in back-to-back years, and the NYC/Jersey area can certainly handle it.


It's kind of a bummer but I think the shareholders are going to trump tradition for MSG. They were willing to sacrifice the revenue when they made the decision in 2003, less comfortable doing that now when the Wrestlemania gate makes up whatever big percentage of their quarter. You'd think they'd at least save the New York area for 30 but I guess we'll see.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.96
Considering the LA area has been done a few times, surprised they don't go for the Rose Bowl as a location, unless they are waiting for the mythical new football stadium to be built in LA.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Considering the LA area has been done a few times, surprised they don't go for the Rose Bowl as a location, unless they are waiting for the mythical new football stadium to be built in LA.

Doesn't everyone always complain about how terrible the live crowds are at PPVs held in LA?

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