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I need a little help in setting up my home wireless network. The kids' computer is on the second floor, well away from my and MrsSec19's computers. I have a wireless router on the main floor, and am looking for a recommendation on a wireless PC card (or other way to connect the second floor computer to the router for purposes of internet connectivity). Running a cable is not an option.
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    I have a wireless router on the main floor


First thing you need to do is see which wireless protocol the router uses. It's most likely 'g', but there's a chance it could be 'n' if it's quite new (or 'b', if it's older.)

I'd guess the kid's computer is a desktop. Rather than installing a card into the computer, I've been using USB wireless adapters of late. They work basically the same as thumb drives (plug it in, check the settings, and you're good to go), and they're easy to just pull out if you don't want the computer to be on the 'net for a period.

I've been trying CompUSA's wireless USB adapters to do this sort of thing, because they were quite cheap. (And looks like they're even cheaper now - $10?). The software interface could be better, but I was able to figure it out (and it was a pre-XP computer; XP has it's own management software for this sort of thing.) I've been happy with them so far.



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Yeah, we use the wireless adapter on a computer that has to be away from the cable line at work. It works good.
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RELATED QUESTION:

I have a motorolla wireless-enabled cable modem (ip Comcast) in the other room, hooked up to my hp desktop PC.

Over here in my room, I am seeing bad connection speeds and if anybody plays WoW here; red latency!...I have to wonder if its that a simple modem like that cant sustain 2 computers actively online or if its simply because im in the other room, or if its cause Comcast is fumbling yet again or what?!

hrm... answer whatever part of that you can please, i know its a little jumbled :(



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Since: 2.1.02
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.64
    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      I have a wireless router on the main floor


    First thing you need to do is see which wireless protocol the router uses. It's most likely 'g', but there's a chance it could be 'n' if it's quite new (or 'b', if it's older.)

    I'd guess the kid's computer is a desktop. Rather than installing a card into the computer, I've been using USB wireless adapters of late. They work basically the same as thumb drives (plug it in, check the settings, and you're good to go), and they're easy to just pull out if you don't want the computer to be on the 'net for a period.

    I've been trying CompUSA's wireless USB adapters to do this sort of thing, because they were quite cheap. (And looks like they're even cheaper now - $10?). The software interface could be better, but I was able to figure it out (and it was a pre-XP computer; XP has it's own management software for this sort of thing.) I've been happy with them so far.


Thanks, cubs! Yes, it's a desktop running XP with wireless G. I'll have to find one of those adapters, since the link you provided says they're out of them for shipping.
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    Originally posted by WhoTookMyHonor?
    RELATED QUESTION:

    I have a motorolla wireless-enabled cable modem (ip Comcast) in the other room, hooked up to my hp desktop PC.

    Over here in my room, I am seeing bad connection speeds and if anybody plays WoW here; red latency!...I have to wonder if its that a simple modem like that cant sustain 2 computers actively online or if its simply because im in the other room, or if its cause Comcast is fumbling yet again or what?!

    hrm... answer whatever part of that you can please, i know its a little jumbled :(


Well if you are trying to play an online game like WoW over wireless I'm not suprised the connection goes to crap. Even with the highest speed wireless you can see problems like this. If you really want to do online gaming you should definatly run a hard line.

As a note about the new sorta N standard routers, none of them have gotten good reviews so far so I would stay away at this point.
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Since: 9.12.01
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Lies.

Lise and I play WoW at the same time with her on wireless every night. WoW needs around 2k of bandwidth per connection - it easily could be done with a shared dial-up connection.

If you are getting red you are either too far or have interference, I would guess, assuming the other computer is good. Stop downloading on that machine, and try changing the channel on your wireless.




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Since: 14.5.04
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.13
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Lies.

    Lise and I play WoW at the same time with her on wireless every night. WoW needs around 2k of bandwidth per connection - it easily could be done with a shared dial-up connection.

    If you are getting red you are either too far or have interference, I would guess, assuming the other computer is good. Stop downloading on that machine, and try changing the channel on your wireless.


how do you change the channel?

/mind boggle



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Log in to the administrative interface for your router. If you aren't sure where it is, you have probably never set up your router. It's probably at http://192.168.1.1 The default username is something you can find on Google for your model. Sometimes it is blank with a password of admin (lots of older linksys models).

From there, look for the wireless tab or whatever it is called on your model. There are 11 channels you can choose from. Lots of people use 6. You might want to scan for other wireless networks in your area with a tool like Netstumbler so that you can avoid putting your wireless on the same channel as one of your neighbors.




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.13
EDIT: Ah, got it. thanks

I have to have laptop and desktop on the same channel right?

ALSO

Is it a good idea, speaking money and value-wise; to get a wireless repeater?

(edited by WhoTookMyHonor? on 23.9.06 1813)

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Since: 9.12.01
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
Skip on the repeater.

Channel... the card should pick up the channel that the router is on.




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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.13
hrm, I put it on channel 11. And secured the network... I think speed has slightly improved, but now I am having problems with no connectivity at different times of the day;

Getting a little technical here, but apparently Comcast in my area is a bunch of useless jerks.

One last question Guru- Directional antenna for the router; worth it?



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Since: 9.12.01
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
It really depends on signal strength.

Channel 11 and 6 are the two that have a lot of issues with cordless phones, if I remember correctly. Not likely that I do, though. It may be 2 and 11. Do a Google search for "802.11 cordless interference" Also note that microwaves can interfere with wireless reception as well. Try to put the router away from both of these items.

Sorry to be brief, no time to answer. Just ask if you have specific questions and I'll revisit this tonight.




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Since: 14.5.04
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.13
Yeah, thanks a lot for all the help Guru.
After checking the channels, securing my network (and putting the router on top of the desk instead of at floor-level like it was before) I now have "Excellent" strength signal.

Only problem is Comcast keeps having "outtage in the area" at the same time every day this week, but I guess thats a whole nother thread titled "why comcast sucks".

A well, thnx.



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Since: 2.1.02
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      I have a wireless router on the main floor


    First thing you need to do is see which wireless protocol the router uses. It's most likely 'g', but there's a chance it could be 'n' if it's quite new (or 'b', if it's older.)

    I'd guess the kid's computer is a desktop. Rather than installing a card into the computer, I've been using USB wireless adapters of late. They work basically the same as thumb drives (plug it in, check the settings, and you're good to go), and they're easy to just pull out if you don't want the computer to be on the 'net for a period.

    I've been trying CompUSA's wireless USB adapters to do this sort of thing, because they were quite cheap. (And looks like they're even cheaper now - $10?). The software interface could be better, but I was able to figure it out (and it was a pre-XP computer; XP has it's own management software for this sort of thing.) I've been happy with them so far.

So I'm trying to get this set up, and it doesn't want to stay connected. My laptop, when set up right next to this PC, has no problems finding and maintaining a signal.

Any ideas?
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Since: 9.12.01
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
Try a new channel to see if you get better signal. Try downloading Netstumbler to see if a neighbor has a network on a channel that you are using. Look for cordless phones, microwaves, metal, pipes, etc in the way between the router and the computer.




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Thanks, Guru - it's working now!
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