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http://sports.espn.go.com/ nhl/news/story?id=1731335

There are some interesting things in here, but I'd like to see the league go to three points for a win, with no shootouts, and maybe no overtime, like soccer does. The last five minutes of a tie game would be a lot better if there were two points to be had by getting the win.



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These are all (IMHO) pretty good ideas, except the tag-up offside rule which I don't quite understand. It's just a damn shame that the league's gonna be gone next season; I hope I'm wrong but this looks inevitable to me.



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NO SHOOTOUTS !!!! and in case I wasn't clear enough - NO SHOOTOUTS !!!! I would rather see 65 minute tie than a shootout - it's like settling a baseball game with a HR Derby - I hate it......

I like the idea of bringing back tag-up offsides but don't like the automatic icing - true, it eliminates the one or two needless injuries that occur when a player slides into the boards at high speed whiling chasing an icing but it would take away from that offensive player that does hustle his ass down ice to get to the puck first

Hockey needs some changes but unfortunately it looks more and more like we will have at least a year and probably more to debate those changes......



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Because I'm stupendously bored, I thought I would see how the "3 points for a win, no overtime" scenario would affect this year's standings.

Current Atlantic
PHI 72 pts. 28-12-11-5
NJ 67 pts. 28-14-10-1
NYI 59 pts. 26-21-5-2
NYR 51 pts. 20-24-7-4
PIT 30 pts. 11-36-5-3

REVISED ATLANTIC
PHI 96 pts. 26-12-18
NJ 85 pts. 23-14-16
NYI 81 pts. 24-21-9
NYR 67 pts. 18-24-13
PIT 35 pts. 8-36-11

Current Northeast
TOR 71 pts. 30-14-8-3
BOS 69 pts. 27-14-11-4
OTT 67 pts. 28-15-7-4
MON 64 pts. 28-20-6-2
BUF 52 pts. 23-26-5-1

REVISED NORTHEAST
TOR 97 pts. 28-14-13
OTT 93 pts. 27-15-12
BOS 88 pts. 23-14-19

MON 86 pts. 25-20-11
BUF 75 pts. 23-26-6

Current Southeast
TB 65 pts. 28-17-6-3
ATL 50 pts. 21-27-6-2
FLA 50 pts. 18-23-11-3
CAR 46 pts. 17-26-10-2
WAS 41 pts. 17-31-5-2

REVISED SOUTHEAST
TB 87 pts. 25-17-12
ATL 63 pts. 17-27-12
FLA 62 pts. 15-23-17
WAS 58 pts. 17-31-7
CAR 57 pts. 14-26-15


Current Central
DET 72 pts. 31-15-8-2
STL 60 pts. 26-20-7-1
NAS 60 pts. 26-20-6-2
COL 41 pts. 15-28-8-3
CHI 40 pts. 14-29-7-5

REVISED CENTRAL
DET 91 pts. 25-15-16
NAS 78 pts. 22-20-12
STL 72 pts. 19-20-15
CHI 52 pts. 13-29-13
COL 50 pts. 12-28-14


Current Northwest
COL 73 pts. 30-11-9-4
VAN 72 pts. 31-15-7-3
CAL 60 pts. 26-20-5-3
MIN 55 pts. 19-20-15-2
EDM 53 pts. 22-24-8-1

REVISED NORTHWEST
COL 89 pts. 23-11-20
VAN 87 pts. 23-15-18
CAL 82 pts. 24-20-10
MIN 74 pts. 19-20-17
EDM 69 pts. 19-24-12

Current Pacific
SJ 68 pts. 26-13-11-5
DAL 63 pts. 27-20-9-0
LA 60 pts. 21-15-13-5
PHX 53 pts. 18-19-14-3
ANA 49 pts. 17-23-8-7

REVISED PACIFIC
SJ 94 pts. 26-13-16
DAL 88 pts. 26-20-10
LA 77 pts. 19-15-20
PHX 65 pts. 15-19-20
ANA 60 pts. 14-23-18

CURRENT EASTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFF SEEDS
1. Philadelphia (72)
2. Toronto (71)
3. Tampa Bay (65)
4. Boston (69)
5. NJ/Ottawa (67)
6. NJ/Ottawa (67)
7. Montreal (64)
8. N. Y. Islanders (59)

REVISED EASTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFF SEEDS
1. Toronto (97)
2. Philadelphia (96)
3. Tampa Bay (87)
4. Ottawa (93)
5. Boston (88)
6. Montreal (86)
7. New Jersey (85)
8. N. Y. Islanders (81)

CURRENT WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFF SEEDS
1. Colorado (73)
2. Detroit (72)
3. San Jose (68)
4. Vancouver (72)
5. Dallas (63)
6. St. Louis/Nashville/Calgary (60)
7. St. Louis/Nashville/Calgary (60)
8. St. Louis/Nashville/Calgary (60)

REVISED WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFF SEEDS
1. San Jose (94)
2. Detroit (91)
3. Colorado (89)
4. Dallas (88)
5. Vancouver (87)
6. Calgary (82)
7. Nashville (78)
8. Los Angeles (77)



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Wow!

I don't think ties should be abolished... nah.




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I think they should shitcan the overtime loss rule ("You took FIVE MINUTES LONGER TO LOSE! Here's a point!"). Teams will try to win as much as they used to, so I think they should just go to 4-on-4 overtime for all the marbles.



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I agree with you Freeway, get rid of that annoying overtime lose one point rule. It's so stupid... And I really like the 3 point rule for a win, it really makes a giant different having 3 times the points for a win then a tie. That would make you go aggressive for the win if the game is tied. The current system the last minutes of the 3rd period you just play for the tie so you can get the guarantee point.



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You want a winner! 0 points for a tie!



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Man, who's ahead of the curve yet again?

Me, that's who, in 2002, yeah hoo.

    Originally posted by Gavintzu
    I really don't like the "one point for making it to overtime" rule. It just don't seem right.

    At the same time, the old way of "we've made it to OT so let's just play for the tie" was in dire need of fixing.

    The solution? As with all of our problems -- look to Europe! The Futball way of getting rid of too many draws is to give THREE points for a win and ONE for a tie. A team who is 7-8-0 would have 21 points, while a team who is 5-5-5 would have 20 points.

    When you are in a playoff race, you had better go for the win, overtime or no. The teams you are racing with certainly will be. A team who settles for draws during the season would be hard-pressed to make the playoffs. Damn sensible, I say.







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