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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.33
If there's any regular justice in the world, the Colts will be forced to refund every paid ticket for throwing today's game.

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We watched tis and our conclusion as a group was that it was really unfair to the guys the Colts HAD to play the whole game. A college team has enough bodies that they can put in an entire second team if they want because they have a lot more players on the sideline, but the Colts had about half their starters in the game. How can you ask those guys to prepare like it is any other week when you are going to pull that?

And they really didn't put the Curtis Painter Experience in much of a position to succeed, either.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.43
Man, I do not at all agree with the decision to pull the starters with a 15-10 lead in the third quarter. If you're gonna do that, why not have the entire second team play the entire game? (Better yet, why not go for the undefeated season?)

Now, naturally I would have been devastated if, say, Dallas Clark, Joseph Addai, Reggie Wayne or (heaven forbid!) Peyton Manning were to get injured in what was, for all intents and purposes, a meaningless game for us. But there's a good chance this entire thing will blow up in our faces, causing us to lose all our momentum going into the playoffs. We started 13-0 in 2005 and blew it at the end, so there's precedent there.

If the Colts end up winning the Super Bowl, ultimately I won't care if they went 14-2, 15-1 or 16-0. But there'll always be a lingering doubt in my mind as to whether we could have gone undefeated.

If the Colts don't win the Super Bowl, it better not be because we decided to lie down at the end of the season and lose all our momentum.

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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.63
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Man, I do not at all agree with the decision to pull the starters with a 15-10 lead in the third quarter......If the Colts don't win the Super Bowl, it better not be because we decided to lie down at the end of the season and lose all our momentum.

Couldn't agree more but if they lose in the playoffs now you just know, rightly or wrongly, people are going to blame the momentum thing.

I don't get the decision at all. All this stuff about the Super Bowl being all that matters and all people remember is just BS. Most people would struggle to name the Super Bowl champions from 1975 or 1976, but everyone knows the Miami Dolphins won it in 1972. 20 years from now I'd wager the Pats' unbeaten regular season will still be talked about more than any team who won one Super Bowl this decade.

The Colts had a shot at making history and instead settled for trying to be merely very good.

Besides it's not like any of their big names are particularly injury prone. Heck, I can barely remember Peyton or Reggie EVER missing a game through injury.

Dumb, dumb, dumb decision.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.77
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Now, naturally I would have been devastated if, say, Dallas Clark, Joseph Addai, Reggie Wayne or (heaven forbid!) Peyton Manning were to get injured in what was, for all intents and purposes, a meaningless game for us.

I said this about Brett Favre, I'll say it about Peyton Manning -- at some point long ago it became obvious that there is something different about them that keeps them from getting hurt. They aren't 'due' to get hurt, they're due to stay healthy.
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.38
    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      Originally posted by ekedolphin
      Now, naturally I would have been devastated if, say, Dallas Clark, Joseph Addai, Reggie Wayne or (heaven forbid!) Peyton Manning were to get injured in what was, for all intents and purposes, a meaningless game for us.

    I said this about Brett Favre, I'll say it about Peyton Manning -- at some point long ago it became obvious that there is something different about them that keeps them from getting hurt. They aren't 'due' to get hurt, they're due to stay healthy.


Still, man, even if we agree that staying healthy is a skill, that's not going to prevent a broken leg or a torn ACL or any of those freak injuries.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.87
If you are going to try to keep the guys healthy, fine. But, why play them 2 1/2 quarters before pulling them? Was some magical force field protecting them up until that point. Brady's season ended in '08 in the 1st quarter. Once you start playing the game straight up, keep playing it that way, or lay down like the 49ers used to do in the 80's when it was clinched and Walsh would play guys off the street.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.77
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by Sec19Row53
        Originally posted by ekedolphin
        Now, naturally I would have been devastated if, say, Dallas Clark, Joseph Addai, Reggie Wayne or (heaven forbid!) Peyton Manning were to get injured in what was, for all intents and purposes, a meaningless game for us.

      I said this about Brett Favre, I'll say it about Peyton Manning -- at some point long ago it became obvious that there is something different about them that keeps them from getting hurt. They aren't 'due' to get hurt, they're due to stay healthy.


    Still, man, even if we agree that staying healthy is a skill, that's not going to prevent a broken leg or a torn ACL or any of those freak injuries.

I disagree. The fact that they've both gone this long without those freak injuries tells me that they aren't susceptible to them.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.57
    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
    I disagree. The fact that they've both gone this long without those freak injuries tells me that they aren't susceptible to them.

Manning started the 2008 season with knee surgery. Favre ended it with a torn bicep tendon.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.50
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    If you are going to try to keep the guys healthy, fine. But, why play them 2 1/2 quarters before pulling them? Was some magical force field protecting them up until that point.

Unless you argue that certain players (e.g., Peyton Manning) are COMPLETELY impervious to injury, then any decrease in playing time necessarily decreases the likelihood of injury. I think you know this already though.

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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.63
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    Unless you argue that certain players (e.g., Peyton Manning) are COMPLETELY impervious to injury, then any decrease in playing time necessarily decreases the likelihood of injury. I think you know this already though.

    - StingArmy

Indeed, and playing them for the first half stops them getting rusty but we're only talking about, what, 20-30 offensive plays that Peyton et al were spared? The chance of them getting injured in that span is almost negligible. If Caldwell thinks otherwise he could/should have pulled them during the second half of any number of games this season when they were up by 20+ points.

I just don't get the mentality of someone involved in competitive sports who sees a chance to make history and say "nah, it's not for me". I'd almost get it if we were talking about a franchise starved of success, but Indy just won a Super Bowl so I reckon their fans would be OK with them taking a shot at greatness.

It's one of the stupidest, wimpiest things I've seen a coach do. Coming from someone whose team has been led by Andy Reid for the last ten years, that's saying something.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.38
I do agree with that actually. People say it won't mean anything if they lose in the playoffs, but that's true whether they go 16-0 or not.

I mean, if you can guarantee that you'll win a Super Bowl by losing a game, then sure, go for it. But that's not how things work.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.32
Why put yourself more under the microscope? What advantage is there for getting a huge media build this week going into the playoffs?

There is some value in not having to answer "Do you think you can do it?" to every junket reporter between now and then final game.

I'm sure they thought about it, and were OK with the possibility they would lose. There sure will be a lot less pressure on them now.




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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.44
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    I'm sure they thought about it, and were OK with the possibility they would lose. There sure will be a lot less pressure on them now.


I agree that was their mindset for what they did, but the way they executed only served to put them under more pressure. Now they HAVE to win the Superbowl or Caldwell looks like an idiot (which he currently does). They pissed off their fanbase for no good reason, and this has become a major topic for sports discussion, enough so that I'm weighing in on a team I otherwise have no opinion regarding.

It will be interesting to see if Caldwell learns from this and becomes better at media/fan relations or if this is turns out to be his blindspot since he certainly knows how to coach (or at least coach an already superior team.)



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.32
Yeah, sports talk is focusing on them.

The Today show gets involved when it's "The Perfect Season". People make shirts. Every local reporter wants 30 seconds to ask "Is it getting to you?"

You ask someone if something is too much pressure too many times, and it starts to weigh upon them.

I think this is a great move.




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