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#1 Posted on
Vince won the cage match, he exited the cage, both feet touching the floor. For brock to get the title shot, he had to beat mcmahon, which didnt happen, and with angle as the ref.... Well.

They could easily connive brock out of the SS main event, and give angle a different challanger, forcing brock to work his way up the ladder, perhaps even bringing Heyman back to corner for Angle again, continueing the Brock/Heyman fued, and again, screwing brock out of title shots, until brock is able to perhaps win the royal rumble again.
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#2 Posted on

    Originally posted by Galidor
    Vince won the cage match, he exited the cage, both feet touching the floor. For brock to get the title shot, he had to beat mcmahon, which didnt happen, and with angle as the ref.... Well.

    They could easily connive brock out of the SS main event, and give angle a different challanger, forcing brock to work his way up the ladder, perhaps even bringing Heyman back to corner for Angle again, continueing the Brock/Heyman fued, and again, screwing brock out of title shots, until brock is able to perhaps win the royal rumble again.







Considering Brock is alligned now with Vince, that would mean Vince would be trying to help Brock. Why would he screw him out of the Title shot within 3 weeks of his joining together? If Vince had aligned with Angle, then yes, they would have been trying to prevent Lesnar from getting a title shot. But by alligning Brock with Vince means Brock's goal is to win the belt for Vince.



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#3 Posted on

    Originally posted by redsoxnation







Considering Brock is alligned now with Vince, that would mean Vince would be trying to help Brock. Why would he screw him out of the Title shot within 3 weeks of his joining together? If Vince had aligned with Angle, then yes, they would have been trying to prevent Lesnar from getting a title shot. But by alligning Brock with Vince means Brock's goal is to win the belt for Vince.



Doesnt matter what vince wants, if the contracts were written right.

Vince wasnt ref, angle was, as soon as Vince hit the arena floor, he won the match, not intending to, and brock gets no title shot.

Bring heyman back, reuse that no title shot for brock clause in the contract, and voila, you have a frustrated heel brock, a face champ angle, and a great chase to wrestlemania.
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Heyman is a HEEL
Brock Lesnar is now a HEEL
Vince McMahon is a HEEL
Kurt Angle is a FACE

Logical storylines dictate that McMahon was successful in breaking up the friendship of Brock & Kurt, turning Lesnar against Angle. Thus, it'd make sense for McMahon to give his little buddy Brock Lesnar a title shot.

From storyline, it makes sense. Plus, they've been smart enough to save the 1-on-1 WrestleMania rematch thus far, so that I'd actually pay cash money to watch it.

Plus, for your contract scenario to work, we'd all have to ignore that Vince McMahon owns the frickin' place, and can make whatever matches he wants.



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#5 Posted on
Heyman WAS a heel.

Heyman is Anti Brock.

Logic dictates Heyman is now a FACE


And we dont have to ignore anything, just because he owns the frickin place, doesnt mean squat (look at mr america)
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#6 Posted on
It wouldn't be Vince screwing Brock out of the Title shot. Angle would say something like "Vince won, you don't get a shot". I'm not really sure if this is the way that they want to go though. What else would it be at Summerslam? Unless they want to keep Angle/Lesnar for a complete SHOWCASE at Survivor Series. The Angle/Lesnar match definetely gets overshadowed by Elimination Chamber.
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It always works out great when the FACE champion ducks the HEEL challenger. Makes the face look so strong.
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#8 Posted on
Im not suggesting a duck scenario as much as a fuck you scenario.
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#9 Posted on
They never actually came out and said the match was for a title shot. Vince said he'd take it under consideration. So, I don't think it matters who officially 'won' the match, Brock can still get his title shot at Summerslam just fine.
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#10 Posted on
The problem with that is they like to do faces chasing. So if they do it at Summerslam, Brock will probably nab the title with a screwjob, and then we'll have Angle chasing for quite some time. I just don't see any decent feuds for them to concentrate on in the "between" time.



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    Vince won the cage match, he exited the cage, both feet touching the floor. For brock to get the title shot, he had to beat mcmahon, which didnt happen, and with angle as the ref.... Well.

    They could easily connive brock out of the SS main event, and give angle a different challanger, forcing brock to work his way up the ladder, perhaps even bringing Heyman back to corner for Angle again, continueing the Brock/Heyman fued, and again, screwing brock out of title shots, until brock is able to perhaps win the royal rumble again.



But Angle is pissed off, and thus would want a match with Lesnar. This could only work into an angle if Kurt challenged Brock to a non-title 'qualifying' match at Summerslam, and if Brock won, THEN he would get a WWE title match later in the night (or, more likely, directly after).




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Why not have Heyman as Angle's manager? I could see Heyman attaching himself to Angle and going with it. It could be a complete shoot. Hell, have him gather a rag tag group after McMahon forms a Corporation to prove McMahon wrong about his skills to form a new alliance.

It has everything. A feud with real heat b/w McMahon and Heyman. It keeps McMahon on TV (which makes him happy) and it puts Heyman back on (which appeases us). This also sets up guest commentating for Heyman. Also, it keeps the Brock/Angle feud going and if done correctly, this feud could be used to build new stars (O'Haire, Cena selling out to McMahon to be in the Corporation)(I would definitely put a tweener O'Haire with face Angle, this would be classic)...and then you could have both groups fighting over trying to get Rhyno/Benoit/Guerrero/Tajiri (offers, pleas, etc.) It would be interesting and if done correctly could give SD some spice up to Survivor series with a real survivor series match!!!!
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#13 Posted on
Or we could have even have a heel heyman managing a reluctant Face Angle, in order to keep the title off of Lesnar.....

Now THERES a new idea, WWE Writers, listen up.


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#14 Posted on

    Originally posted by Galidor
    Or we could have even have a heel heyman managing a reluctant Face Angle, in order to keep the title off of angle.....

    Now THERES a new idea, WWE Writers, listen up.


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#15 Posted on
of course i meant that heyman would be trying to keep the belt of BROCK and not KURT.

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