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|  #1 Posted on 21.6.02 2116.11 |
1. The public doesn't give a damn about pro soccer.
2. The US mens team still isn't good enough to have any of their individual players get noticed.
3. If people want to watch a long boring sport where people play endless minutes to a possible 0-0 tie, they can watch Hockey. At least there's some fights there.
4. ESPN created the X Games so they DIDN'T HAVE TO RUN SO MUCH SOCCER.
If all live soccer games ran at 2 in the morning, it may have a chance. But primetime? Not in the next 15 years, unfortunately for them.
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| #2 Posted on 21.6.02 2127.50 | Instant Rating: 4.42 | But with the correct marketing and production, the public's apathy towards soccer can be overcome. People made the same kind of assumptions about NASCAR, but Fox turned that into a profitable venture.
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| #3 Posted on 21.6.02 2233.31 |
This sounds terrible, but it's unfortunately true. Remember, I'm coming from a media programmer standpoint.
NASCAR has wrecks.
Soccer doesn't.
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| #4 Posted on 21.6.02 2237.26 | Instant Rating: 4.42 | Do you really think the NASCAR wrecks are that much of an attraction? It just seems to me like they don't happen often or brutally enough for people to actually sdown and watch an entire race in anticipation of seeing an accident.
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| #5 Posted on 21.6.02 2257.17 |
re:wrecks
It's enough to have the TV or radio on in the background while the watcher/listener is doing something else. And as long as that TV/radio is on, it's ratings!
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| #6 Posted on 22.6.02 0137.16 | I think lack of commercials is the single biggest reason.
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| #7 Posted on 22.6.02 0533.41 | If they shortened the field and added the AMERICAN GLADIATORS to randomly beat the hell out of players I would watch.
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| #8 Posted on 22.6.02 1525.37 | Instant Rating: 0.00 | Soccer has cards. That's what got me interested in the matches when I first started watching. Gradually, as I learned the rules, I began to understand and appreciate the game, and it became a very enjoyable experience.
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| #9 Posted on 22.6.02 1942.26 | NASCAR was popular long before Fox. It's been a top sport for a good while now, just behind Football as a spectator sport. I don't like NASCAR, but I'm just stating a fact.
I don't like soccer either, but I just don't see it getting that kind of popularity. It's just too slow. | Zeruel
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| #10 Posted on 22.6.02 2122.24 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | and the lack of high scores means that when you see an attacking running up the side, ready to cross, the fans, and announcers [if watching en espanol] get excited because goals are rare sometimes...
to paraphrase Zysbico, it's like chess on a big field. there aren't really fights because sportsman-ship is expected. do something flagrant, get a red card [you are ejected from this game, and the next competetive game] [ok, competetive game means next non-exhibition, i.e. friendly game]
lets move this to football
imangine there's a holding penality, and the same guys keeps holding. the ref warns him
there's another holding, and the ref calls a penality. it's the same left guard. out comes the yellow card.
later the game, he keeps holding, out comes another yellow card. 2 yellows in one game = a red.
so he throws a RED penality flag and books him! now the Ravens have to play a man down! it's 10 on 11! how will they change their formation?
I like the sport [soccer]
i wish more people did...at my video store i have the games on [i tape them and replay them on our tv's that night when i work] and sure enough, the "Natives" ignore it, but anyone who has immigrated to the US is watching with passion.
if MLS had a better TV and marketing deal like US football, i think the US, and the rest of the world, would take them seriously.
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|  #11 Posted on 23.6.02 0028.45 | I think T.R. hit in on the head. No commercial breaks can be put into a soccer game, so no major network is going to pick it up. It doesn't matter how many people are watching if you can't translate that to advertising dollars.
On this plus side, as long as there was no overtime, you know within 10 minutes how long the game is going to take. No overruns, overtime or - like baseball - a game that could take two and a half to four hours. Who knows? Even with overtime you just have to make sure you can spare another 45 minutes, just in case.
I dunno. It seems like in North America, no one cares if there isn't a possibility of violence erupting the the game.
Football - The game IS violence.
Hockey - duh.
Baseball - One close pitch is all it takes, nowadays.
Basketball - Well... I think a case can be made. I don't watch it very much though.
Hmmmmmmm... does the fighting in other sports come because the players get so much money that they view themselves as above everything else, or because the people promoting it allow or encourage it? There's a question for you.
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