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Since: 10.12.01
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This post is about making MP3s for my own personal use from CDs I legally bought in actual physical stores. Just so's you know.

I have a problem. Maybe you can help me with my problem? Google can't seem to, though that might be because I don't know what I'm looking for.

I have a HP Pavilion m8040n Windows Media Centre PC running Windows Vista Ultimate. Ever since I got this computer, I've had a hard time ripping good MP3s. They're not bad, but there are a few little skips and pops here and there; just enough to be irritating, basically.

I started making MP3s with iTunes; thinking that was the problem, I tried a few different programs with no more success.

Eventually, I tried getting rid of Vista and going back to XP, which was a whole 'nother goddamn mess that I don't even want to get into right now. Suffice to say I wound up with a Vista reinstall (now with Service Pack 1) and it didn't help anything.

Also, if anyone wants to buy a legit copy of Windows XP Media Centre edition, PM me and I'll sell it for cheap.

Anyway. So I made some MP3s last week in iTunes (after the reinstall) and again, a few skips and pops. Tonight, I downloaded a freeware CD ripping program (Exact Audio Copy) and the newest LAME encoder I could find, and I got the same errors. Like, the exact same - a little scratching noise at 1:29 of an MP3, regardless of the program I used to make it.

If I play the CD in iTunes, I also get the scratching noise at 1:29 of the song on the CD. If I play the CD in Exact Audio Copy (or in my stereo), I don't get any scratching noise. But like I said, if I make the MP3 in Exact Audio Copy, I DO get the scratching noise.

This CD has no visible damage (and has only been played a few times), and either way, I get this happening with all CDs, ripped in either drive, so it's not a problem with the specific CD.

I already do things like turn on error correction, slow the speed of MP3 ripping, and turn off all other programs.

Questions:
- What the heck is causing this?
- Does your computer do this?
- What can I do to make it STOP doing this?
- Am I a chump for caring so much about my MP3s? (yes)



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In doing a quick search it seems like it's most likely a sound card driver issue. Try both the HP provided driver and the driver/codec from Realtek's website to see if that helps. Seems a lot of people have fixed their problems that way.

Also check the Realtek software that is likely installed and turn off any special features it may be trying to use.
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Have you played the MP3s on any other computer/player?



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Keep in mind that your CD-Rom and CD seem to be other common elements. Can you test a different CD drive (do you have more than 1?)

Do you have access to another computer to do some testing?




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Since: 10.12.01
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.92
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Keep in mind that your CD-Rom and CD seem to be other common elements. Can you test a different CD drive (do you have more than 1?) Do you have access to another computer to do some testing?
I have two drives (an HD-DVD ROM - I chose well - and a DVD burner) and I seem to get the same results with both drivers.
I haven't tried making MP3s from this one specific CD on other computers, but in the past, CDs that led to popping MP3s on this computer made fine MP3s on other computers.
    Originally posted by CRZ
    Have you played the MP3s on any other computer/player?
Yep - I get the skips on my iPod, or if I burn the MP3s to DVD and play them on other computers.

Matistic - I'm at work right now but will try those options when I get home tonight. Thanks!




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- Drivers is a good call, try updated them.

- You also might want to disable sound "enhancements". For some reason those "enhancements" often get in the way of things. This is a feature built into Vista, which really doesn't do anything.

- Like most problems which are likely softwrae related, I suggest going into the MSCONFIG and disabling some startup items (as in all of them) and see if one of the programs which starts with your system is causing the interference.





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Since: 10.12.01
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UPDATE:
- Made successful MP3s from my work computer, so we could rule out the CD as the point of failure.
- Ran Windows Update and checked for new drivers. Nothing. Got the newest drivers from Realtek. Went into the Realtek software settings and disabled everything that I could.
- Played the CD in the HD-DVD ROM. The skipping persisted.
- Switched to the DVD burner. The CD now played without skipping in iTunes. Made MP3s in Exact Audio Copy. The checksums came up flawless, unlike last time. Made MP3s in iTunes. Haven't tested everything yet, but that one song didn't have the skip that it had been having before.

So... maybe it's fixed? I hope?

Incidentally, the specific song I kept using as an example was "What The Fuck Was That?" from the original off-broadway cast recording of Evil Dead: The Musical. Just thought I'd share.

Thanks to all - I'm hopeful that this is a (evil) dead issue. I'll listen to the MP3s more closely tomorrow and report back.



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Hmm... yeah, I've had certain drives that just don't rip right. The technical reason could be error correction used in the drive, or jitter (vibrations in the CD-ROM when spun at high speed) or some such. I don't recall the exact reason why, but I have found that changing drives can sometimes fix it.

This is all hazy, it's been a few years since I've run into this issue.




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Sometimes it helps to see if there is a BIOS upgrade for the CD drive. Fixed problems I've had in the past and not something most people look for. Check the drive manufacturers website.
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