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Reading the HART AND SOUL thread got me to thinking. All the messed up shit that the Hart family has been through, Bret's problems, Owen, the other brothers backstabbing and basically ruining any chance for any of them to make a living in the business. Stu losing everything when Stamped was bought out. Just a ton of stuff.


BUT, did life deal them a shittier hand than the Von Erichs?

I mean, just about every one of them is dead, some of it at their own hand. It's was just one tragedy after another for them.

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You have to look at this way. The Von Erichs fell into a pattern of drugs and depression and lost pretty much everything. Lacey and DVD is their last link to them. The problem for them was the father was so blind sighted when it came to his boys that it could have been avoided. The Hart family was a Greek tragedy from the moment the second child was born. There was so much jealousy, hate and corruption between the kids that it was all going to fall apart. The Hart family suffered a lot with death, sure Owen's death was very avoidable, but the total destruction of the family was inevitable as soon as Bruce got the book and Bret was wrestling. At least with the Harts, Bret and the second generation age making a good living still off of wrestling. The Von Erich family is almost a dead line.

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Morbid topic, but I think the Harts had a lot of terrible luck whereas the Von Erichs' misfortune was self-inflicted by the culture of entitlement and too much too soon that Fritz created that led to the overdose and all the subsequent suicides. The Harts were probably destined to be dysfunctional no matter what, but Owen's fluke/negligent accident really splintered the family. The moral of the story is don't be a big wrestling family, obv.
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Okay, I know I'm going to look stupid here (again) but since I never watched TNA much before Hulk came in, I had no idea that Lacey was legit Von Eric. I thought they just gave her the name.

ANYWAY, reading Bret's book, the shenanigans his brothers pulled, both personally and professionally are just mind blowing. How could a group of people be THAT stupid related to the business side of things, when their dad ran a promotion their entire lives. It's just a shame.

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I'll see your Harts and Von Erichs and raise you Jake Roberts' family



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I have to go with the Von Erich's. They had the potential to be the biggest threat to Vince's empire building, plus they had children dying early, with Jack's death at the age of 5. Kerry's motorcycle accident right when the promotion breaks from the NWA doomed any chance they had of surviving (as well as the Texas economy collapsing) and they get a replacement for David in Mike and he gets the toxic shock syndrome that pretty much destroyed his brain.
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    I'll see your Harts and Von Erichs and raise you Jake Roberts' family


Well, the crack addict/incest angle is pretty good. But Sam Houston and Rockin' Robin made it out mostly unscathed.
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Here are some more thoughts from a demented mind in Central Florida:
Rockin' Robin might have "made it out alive." But last I checked, Sam Houston was divorced from Baby Doll, and finishing up a 10-year prison sentence (imposed back in August 2005) from multiple DUI arrests that probably led to a felony DUI charge. Add to that his home near New Orleans being destroyed by Hurricane Katrina, and I'd say that disqualifies him from being "mostly unscathed."

Edit: That said, sad as the situation is, I don't think it's quite as tragic as either the Harts or the Von Erichs.

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