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#41 Posted on
I understand the reasons behind making this match instead of HHH V Goldberg. A. You can save HHH V Goldberg singles match for when HHH is healthy and B.To add a suspense to who he will lose it to. HHH has been in the world title program since his comeback in early 2002 its now a year and a half later and he is as stale as month old bread. As far as the winner of the Chamber it has to be someone they can count on therefore i pick Y2J. This match will close out SummerSlam so maybe Vince will go with Goldberg but I dont think they will put the belt on a guy who dosent work house shows.
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#42 Posted on
I'm going to have to pick Jericho, oddly enough.

For starters, Goldberg has no challengers, and I doubt people will shell out to see who gets killed on PPV (See: My theories on the demize of WCW.)

Jericho, on the other hand, has HBK and Nash as ready made adversaries after the match.

Jericho and Orton tag together to take on Nash and HBK (saving face for Nash in the process by including him in tag matches) for a few weeks. Eventually, we get HBK/Jericho 3 for the title, and after Orton and Nash interfere, Jericho walks away.

Oh, and meanwhile, Jericho has joined Evolution.

Jericho and HHH refuse to get along in Evolution together because of the belt. Evolution beats down HHH, and voila, we get the HHH face turn we've all been hearing about/speculating. Thus, we get HHH/Jericho at Survivor Series, unless they actually step forward and put the belt on Kane (which would be crap; Kane should vie for the belt but get disqualified or something or other, and he isn't the type of character that's consumed with winning the belt, or winning at all for that matter, just doing damage.)

We get Goldberg/HHH mano a mano at Rumble, IMO.





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#43 Posted on
Detailed fantasy booking is crap but I love, love, love the idea of Jericho joining Evolution.



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#44 Posted on
I hate, hate, hate the idea of Jericho joining Evolution. It's just another way for Hunter to either overshadow him or bury him again after a face turn.

Until it's obvious that Hunter is ready to do the right thing, keep them the *hell* away from each other.



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#45 Posted on

    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    You put the belt on Orton. You let the Nature Boy and HHH mentor him with plenty of "when I was champ" stories, and have them bail him out when he gets close to dropping the straps, building heat on him. Then down the road, when you are ready to turn him face, you have him just interrupt Flair (or HHH) during a pep talk and tell them about how they are OLD and how he is the new breed of wrestler, and how he doesnt need them. This will result in a beat down of course, turning him face and setting up HHH vs Orton at WRESTLEMANIA! WHOOOOOOO!


What a SWEET idea! You could also further this by during one of the beatdowns have Batista come back and be Orton's protector. He could also put over Batista was also ditched by Evolution b/c when he got hurt he was seen as weak.
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#46 Posted on
I'm not too concerned with who wins this, since it's *yawn* Raw, but I'm going to make the bold prediction that Trips will get NOT get pinned.

We're all winnders, though.Imagine someone else with the title! Let's see it off Trips' waist for a hell of a long time!



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#47 Posted on

    Originally posted by SOK
    I'm not too concerned with who wins this, since it's *yawn* Raw, but I'm going to make the bold prediction that Trips will get NOT get pinned.

    We're all winnders, though.Imagine someone else with the title! Let's see it off Trips' waist for a hell of a long time!



He has to get pinned. It's not like a Fatal Four Way where it's one fall to a finish - it's under elimination rules. That's why this isn't really HHH trying to get out of jobbing. (Sure, he may job to, say, Shawn Michaels, but there's no way he can lose this match without getting pinned or, I believe, tapping out.)





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#48 Posted on
The switch from a one-on-one to an EC match is supposedly to relieve HHH of carrying the entire event (see Rajah), but his injury can't be THAT bad -- I wouldn't think the WWE wants a replay of Survivor Series, where he ended up spending most of the match lying on the floor. Its customary in these types of matches for the champ to be the last eliminated.

I think HHH will survive this with the belt, but possibly in a way that heats up HHH/Goldberg even more so they can meet one-on-one at the next PPV -- it partly depends on if the WWE thinks they can hold a storyline through two or more PPVs now that they are two months apart rather than one.

Overall, I hope this is the last EC match we see for a while. This is making the WWE look desparate, especially since they've pretty much run HIAC into the ground...
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#49 Posted on
They put HHH over practically everyone on RAW in the last year only to have him lose it in a 6-way where the door is always open for an excuse. That is, if HHH doesn't win, and I hope he does because with the kind of buildup HHH has been given he needs to lose it one-on-one in the middle of the ring to pass the belt on to the new champion.

Why did Booker T, HBK, RVD, Kane, Ric Flair, and even Kevin Nash and Scott Steiner all lose to HHH over the last year? Wasn't this HHH heel reign supposed to be geared towards putting someone over? Wasn't that the point everyone giving HHH all of that heat?

That's certainly what I heard when I pointed out the faults of HHH's mega-reign. Wasn't Booker T supposed to "chase" the title off of HHH after losing to him at WrestleMania? Or was that Nash program just too appealing?

There shouldn't be suspense as to who he will lose it to. We should know who going in and should anticipate that moment where he's finally defeated. The fact that "anything can happen" just furthers the notion of randomness.

Goldberg wins: He still has to beat HHH one-on-one and follow the previous champ's unbelievable winning streak to prove himself. Aside from beating The Rock, Goldberg's character remains unproven in WWE.

How can someone get over bigtime with this? We'll have the belt on someone "new", but much like the Royal Rumble winner must prove himself worthy at WrestleMania, the winner of this Elimination Chamber will have to prove himself because any number of circumstances could have influenced a win. Simply winning the title just doesn't cut it anymore, so it seems.

The only way this match is going to work to get someone over is if the actual winner takes out all five people. That is highly unlikely, but is consistent with Goldberg's former WCW character. WWE certainly hasn't given any indication that they'd follow through with that. Hell, I'm not so sure I want to see that.
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#50 Posted on
Well... I'm a bit unsure about the EC. That was supposed to be a SurSer tradition! With that said, if I had to choose, I'd say... Either Jericho or Orton, just to mess with your heads. I'll keep the whole jobbingpolitics stuff to you guys. I really was begging for HBK/Jericho III too. I just hope that if HHH DOES lose the title, no matter who beats him, you kiss the new champ's ass as much as possible, because I've got my eye on you, so as soon as you start dissing the new guy, BAM! I'll slap the "hypocrite" stamp on your ass so fast!

(edited by Ringmistress on 6.8.03 1203)


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#51 Posted on

    Originally posted by wordlife

      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      You put the belt on Orton. You let the Nature Boy and HHH mentor him with plenty of "when I was champ" stories, and have them bail him out when he gets close to dropping the straps, building heat on him. Then down the road, when you are ready to turn him face, you have him just interrupt Flair (or HHH) during a pep talk and tell them about how they are OLD and how he is the new breed of wrestler, and how he doesnt need them. This will result in a beat down of course, turning him face and setting up HHH vs Orton at WRESTLEMANIA! WHOOOOOOO!


    What a SWEET idea! You could also further this by during one of the beatdowns have Batista come back and be Orton's protector. He could also put over Batista was also ditched by Evolution b/c when he got hurt he was seen as weak.



Orton calling Flair an old has-been will make Flair face, not Orton.

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#52 Posted on
I know this isn't popular, but I'd love to see Goldberg go over. Ah, now I feel like a REAL mark.

Then again, maybe they'll have Nash win, just to f*ck with the minds of the internet crowd.
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#53 Posted on
Heart says Jericho.

Head says Goldberg pinning Jericho. With a rematch with Jericho for Unforgiven and a Match with Kane for Surv. Series
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#54 Posted on
Firstly I dont believe for a second that the elimination chamber came about due to a refusal on HHH's part to job in singles. It was due to injury as seems pretty evident from the booking that has left us here.

Secondly I think the Elimination Chamber is a bad, bad idea. It would have struck me as so much easier to have Evolution continue the whole Wwe fight in our time, on our terms" thing and claim that Summerslam just wasn't the right time. Play up the injury as a lame excuse building heat on HHH and increasing the desire among the fans to see Goldberg give him a beating down the line. Continue to build the feud over the next few months, maybe with an Orton/Goldberg fight at the ppv after SS, before ultimately putting Goldberg over at Survivor Series.

And finally I cant believe at post number 50-something that nobodys managed to suss the outcome of this one.

It is of course that 'Folks here will bitch'. Duh.

(edited by dMr on 7.8.03 0123)


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#55 Posted on
Orton will eliminate Nash, Jericho and HBK to further him as "The Ledgend Killer" Golberg will eliminate Rnady and Trips to become WWE Champion!



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#56 Posted on
Ok, six guys in a giant bird cage match 2 isn't such a bad thing. Only thing I can see is either HHH walks out champ or Goldburg will be. Jerchio is the next behind Goldberg and the rest are toss ups to me.



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#57 Posted on
I don't think HHH refused to job to Goldberg by any means. If anything, it's smarter (from his perspective) for him to job at SummerSlam and win it back at WrestleMania XX.

I just think it's a total waste to get all of this heat on HHH and then water it down by putting 5 other guys in the same match. There needs to be a direct conflict for it to truly pay off and it doesn't look like we'll get that now.
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#58 Posted on
From Lords of Pain who got it from Torch VIP:

"The word going around backstage is that the only two to potentially suffer from the Elimination Chamber are Randy Orton and HBK, as their planned match would've done wonders to put Orton over as a single's star, if done the way it was originally booked. Otherwise, the feeling was that Nash/Jericho and Goldberg/HHH would've been bombs, so it was better to turn the matches into the big Elimination Chamber."

"Right now, the most likely scenarios point to either HHH retaining or Chris Jericho winning the title, with the possible Jericho decision pleasing many in the back. Of course, WWE will be changing the outcome up until, quite possibly, the day of the PPV."



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#59 Posted on
Goldberg should pin all five of them in a row.

Rather than have the Elimination Chamber gimmick diminish Goldberg's win, they should use it to enhance Goldberg's win. Goldberg looks unstoppable, which perfectly sets up the battle of the unstoppable forces: Goldberg vs. Kane. With the way things have been going lately, I'm willing to believe that there is more money in a Goldberg/Kane matchup than a Goldberg/HHH matchup.



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#60 Posted on

    Originally posted by Underwater
    Goldberg should pin all five of them in a row.

    Rather than have the Elimination Chamber gimmick diminish Goldberg's win, they should use it to enhance Goldberg's win. Goldberg looks unstoppable, which perfectly sets up the battle of the unstoppable forces: Goldberg vs. Kane. With the way things have been going lately, I'm willing to believe that there is more money in a Goldberg/Kane matchup than a Goldberg/HHH matchup.



Too bad there are too many egos in that match that would make sure that outcome would never happen.
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