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#1 Posted on
Here's a quick look at who's beaten HHH and how (and visa versa)!

THE GLASS CEILING: A LOOK
WHOS BEATEN TRIPLE H
Kurt Angle/Chris Jericho team
SD 2/7; pinfall in handicap match
SD 5/16; w/Edge via pin by Angle on Edge
No Way Out; pinfall to become #1 contender (job returned next night)
RAW 3/4; via cage-pull-out by Stephanie
Hulk Hogan
Backlash; pinfall for Undisputed Title
The Undertaker
King of the Ring; pinfall for Undisputed Title
Undertaker/Kurt Angle team
SD 6/13; DQ
Shawn Michaels
SummerSlam; pinfall
Booker T
RAW 1/28; pinfall via Stephanie distraction & fistfull o tights
Rob Van Dam/Ric Flair team
RAW 9/2; w/Jericho via RVD pin on Triple H
Vince McMahon/Kurt Angle team
SD 3/28; w/Ric Flair via McMahon pin on Flair
Chris Jericho
SD 4/25; pinfall via Undertaker distraction & fistfull o tights
D-Von Dudley
SD 5/9; pinfall via Jericho interference
Test
SD 5/30; pinfall via interference by everyone on Earth

WHO TRIPLE H HAS BEATEN
Everyone
Rumble 02; won Royal Rumble
SD 6/6; co-won Battle Royal with Hulk Hogan
Billy Gunn
SD 6/20; pinfall
Hulk Hogan
SD 6/6; pinfall
Lance Storm
SD 5/23; pinfall
Ric Flair
RAW 9/2; pinfall after CHEATING! to retain World Title
The Undertaker
RAW 8/26; pinfall after Brock Lesnar run-in to become #1 contender
Booker T/Kurt Angle
SD 1/17; w/Austin via HHH pin on Booker T
Undertaker/Kurt Angle
SD 1/31; w/Rock via DQ
SD 2/14; w/Maven via DQ
Kurt Angle
RAW 2/18; pinfall to become #1 contender
SD 4/11; pinfall
Chris Jericho/Kurt Angle team
RAW 1/21; w/Rock via Rock pin on Jericho in tag match
SD 2/28; w/Kane via HHH pin on Angle
Stephanie McMahon
RAW 3/25; pinfall in 3-way dance (w/ Jericho) for Undisputed Title
Booker T/Goldust/Rock/Undertaker team
RAW 8/12; w/UnAmericans via Test pin on Undertaker in tag match

WHO TRIPLE H HAS DREW
The Rock
RAW 8/19; no contest via Shawn Michaels run-in
Chris Jericho/Kurt Angle team
SD 4/18; w/Hogan via Hogan & HHH turning on each other


So, in summation: Triple H has LOST a total of 14 times this year. Of those losses, ONE has been clean in a one-on-one match: Shawn Michaels.

COINCIDENCE?
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
I stopped keeping track of win-loss records back in April, officialy any way. But I'll bet good money that RVD has both more wins and less losses than Triple H. Also note that RVD has yet to job to HHH (unless you count the fact that one pedigree ko'd RVD in the Rumble.)





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#3 Posted on
    Originally posted by Freeway420


    COINCIDENCE?




It must be a "COINCIDENCE",ya know...

It's also amazing how him and his girlfriend are the main bookers,and for some reason he N-E-V-E-R lose,looks weak or bad,and A-L-W-A-Y-S make everybody to look like shit,while making himself to look like he's above God.



Why is that?
Cause He Sucks Vince's D!ck That Damn Good!

(edited by xpac on 5.9.02 1924)
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#4 Posted on
Sounds like a job for...me.

As soon as I finish compiling my records, I will post a past performance record for Triple H and you can go from there.



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#5 Posted on
Well, he DID job to the Brooklyn Brawler at one point, didn't he? I think that was one of the last times I watched that crap.

I wonder why no one thinks Misawa was holding Kobashi down by beating him for the Triple Crown twice...



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#6 Posted on
The Brawler match was 3 v 1 (Kaientai/Brawler v HHH) and it did need Jerichoterference, so even the loss that people always roll out to defend him isn't clean :).



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#7 Posted on
What does it matter if the loss was clean? He was pinned by the BROOKLYN BRAWLER. Who else can say that?
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#8 Posted on
I was pinned by the Brooklyn Brawler.

-Jag

Wait. No I wasn't.



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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
    I stopped keeping track of win-loss records back in April, officialy any way. But I'll bet good money that RVD has both more wins and less losses than Triple H. Also note that RVD has yet to job to HHH (unless you count the fact that one pedigree ko'd RVD in the Rumble.)


-sigh- I guess it's time to establish how much of a nerd I truly am...

2002 Win-Loss-Draw as of 9/5/02

HHH: 20 - 14 - 2
Rob Van Dam: 41 - 17 - 0

Even more amazing is 2001...

HHH: 11 - 13 - 3
Rob Van Dam: 35 - 13 - 3

Yes, HHH had a losing record last year.



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#10 Posted on

    Originally posted by xpac
      Originally posted by Freeway420


      COINCIDENCE?




    It must be a "COINCIDENCE",ya know...

    It's also amazing how him and his girlfriend are the main bookers,and for some reason he N-E-V-E-R lose,looks weak or bad,and A-L-W-A-Y-S make everybody to look like shit,while making himself to look like he's above God.



    Why is that?
    Cause He Sucks Vince's D!ck That Damn Good!

    (edited by xpac on 5.9.02 1924)



I didn't know HHH was a booker!!!!

I thought there was only ONE Booker.

Now can you dig that......










SUCKA!!!!!!!!!!!



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#11 Posted on
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard

      Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
      I stopped keeping track of win-loss records back in April, officialy any way. But I'll bet good money that RVD has both more wins and less losses than Triple H. Also note that RVD has yet to job to HHH (unless you count the fact that one pedigree ko'd RVD in the Rumble.)


    -sigh- I guess it's time to establish how much of a nerd I truly am...

    2002 Win-Loss-Draw as of 9/5/02

    HHH: 20 - 14 - 2
    Rob Van Dam: 41 - 17 - 0

    Even more amazing is 2001...

    HHH: 11 - 13 - 3
    Rob Van Dam: 35 - 13 - 3

    Yes, HHH had a losing record last year.



So let's see. For 2001, Triple H performed in 27 matches during the 6 months before he got injured, leave him with a losing record. And RVD debuted in July (9.7.1 RAW Recap) and managed to have 51 matches in just 3 months time.

And now for 2002. In the past nine months, Triple H has had a total of: 36 matches. RVD has had 58 matches.

So given the fact that RVD is a face, and has been pushed somewhat consistently for the past year, it's pretty easy to see where the discrepency of Win/Loss comes from. Now what someone needs to do is break down the Main Event win/loss from the Midcard win/loss and if Triple H doesn't come out on top, I'll be surprised.

-Jag

But I'm too lazy to do just that.

/edit added: Oh wait, didn't your ranking do JUST THAT, SSS? Goddamn, I miss them man!

(edited by Jaguar on 6.9.02 1602)


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#12 Posted on

    Originally posted by smarkymcsmart
    What does it matter if the loss was clean? He was pinned by the BROOKLYN BRAWLER. Who else can say that?

Just Joe.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.21

    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo

      Originally posted by smarkymcsmart
      What does it matter if the loss was clean? He was pinned by the BROOKLYN BRAWLER. Who else can say that?

    Just Joe.





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#14 Posted on
Okay, I can do that...

For 2002...

HHH has been in a whopping 23 main events, tied for the lead with Kurt Angle. (For sake of reference, I consider a main event the final match of a PPV, or a match in the final segment of RAW or Smackdown. If the show ends with an interview, there is no main event. I also didn't count the Royal Rumble match, which would bring both guys up one spot.)

The main events in question are:
1/17 Smackdown: HHH and Steve Austin VS Booker T and Kurt Angle (W-1)
1/21 RAW: HHH and The Rock VS Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle (W-2)
2/7 Smackdown: HHH VS Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho (L-1)
2/14 Smackdown: HHH and Maven VS Kurt Angle and The Undertaker (W-3)
2/18 RAW: HHH VS Kurt Angle (W-4)
2/28 Smackdown: HHH and Kane VS Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho (W-5)
3/4 RAW: HHH VS Kurt Angle in a steel cage (L-2)
3/17 Wrestlemania: HHH VS Chris Jericho (W-6)
3/25 RAW: HHH VS Chris Jericho VS Stephanie McMahon (W-7)
3/28 Smackdown: HHH and Ric Flair VS Kurt Angle and Vince McMahon (L-3)
4/11 Smackdown: HHH VS Kurt Angle (W-8)
4/18 Smackdown: HHH and Hulk Hogan VS Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho (NC-1)
4/21 Backlash: HHH VS Hulk Hogan (L-4)
4/25 Smackdown: HHH VS Chris Jericho (L-5)
5/4 Insurrextion: HHH VS The Undertaker (W-9)
5/16 Smackdown: HHH and Edge VS Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle (L-6)
6/6 Smackdown: HHH VS Hulk Hogan (W-10)
6/13 Smackdown: HHH VS Kurt Angle and The Undertaker (L-7)
6/23 King Of The Ring: HHH VS The Undertaker (L-8)
8/12 RAW: HHH, Lance Storm, Christian and Test VS The Rock, Booker T, Goldust and The Undertaker (W-11)
8/19 RAW: HHH VS The Rock (L-9)
8/26 RAW: HHH VS The Undertaker (W-12)
9/2 RAW: HHH and Chris Jericho VS Rob Van Dam and Ric Flair (L-10)

Which puts HHH at 12 - 10 - 2.

Rob Van Dam, on the other hand, has a mere six main events, tied for 11th place with Chris Benoit and Eddy Guerrero*,

His consist of:
5/20 RAW: Rob Van Dam VS The Undertaker (L-1)
5/27 RAW: Rob Van Dam VS Eddy Guerrero in a ladder match (W-1)
6/24 RAW: Rob Van Dam VS Brock Lesnar (W-2 -- it was a DQ)
7/8 RAW: Rob Van Dam, Booker T, Goldust, Bubba Ray and Spike Dudley VS Chris Benoit, Eddy Guerrero, X-Pac, The Big Show and Kevin "Whoops" Nash (L-2)
7/15 RAW: Rob Van Dam and Ric Flair VS Brock Lesnar and The Undertaker (L-3)
9/2 RAW: Rob Van Dam and Ric Flair VS HHH and Chris Jericho (W-3)

Which puts RVD even at 3 - 3 - 0.

As for 2001, I never kept track of which matches were main events, so I really couldn't tell you, although it stands to reason they'd be most of HHH's and very few of RVD's.


*: For the record, those ahead of them are:

Kurt Angle (23), HHH (23), The Rock (18), The Undertaker (18), Chris Jericho (17), Steve Austin (13), Hulk Hogan (11), Edge (7), Ric Flair (7) and, of all people, Scott Hall (7).



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#15 Posted on
So that puts Triple H with 23 Main Events out of 36 total matches. Not bad.

-Jag



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#16 Posted on
We do all know that Stephanie is in charge of storylines, but does that necesarily mean that HHH is also in charge of Storylines? I know all of you say yes without ever actually seeing these meetings, knowing any of the creative team that has complained, or having any personel actually associated without the company tell you it. Frankly, I think its kinda silly, as we've just seen concrete proof, based on TV (thanks OlFuzzyBastard) that HHH doesn't really have that much of a winning record.

Just for a comparison, a similar record in the NFL would only give him a 9-7 record (ok 8-7-1), which wouldn't get him into the playoffs. And maybe he plays more main events, but I'd be willing to bet thats because hes known more by the casual fan than say, Crash Holly or John Cena. And he was responsible for that a long time before he was fucking Stephanie



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#17 Posted on

    Originally posted by chazerizer
    We do all know that Stephanie is in charge of storylines, but does that necesarily mean that HHH is also in charge of Storylines? I know all of you say yes without ever actually seeing these meetings, knowing any of the creative team that has complained, or having any personel actually associated without the company tell you it.


So what you're saying is we shouldn't assume things that we don't KNOW for sure.



Just like you don't know for sure that we haven't seen the meetings or know any of the creative team.



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#18 Posted on

    Originally posted by chazerizer
    We do all know that Stephanie is in charge of storylines, but does that necesarily mean that HHH is also in charge of Storylines? I know all of you say yes without ever actually seeing these meetings, knowing any of the creative team that has complained, or having any personel actually associated without the company tell you it. Frankly, I think its kinda silly, as we've just seen concrete proof, based on TV (thanks OlFuzzyBastard) that HHH doesn't really have that much of a winning record.

    Just for a comparison, a similar record in the NFL would only give him a 9-7 record (ok 8-7-1), which wouldn't get him into the playoffs. And maybe he plays more main events, but I'd be willing to bet thats because hes known more by the casual fan than say, Crash Holly or John Cena. And he was responsible for that a long time before he was fucking Stephanie



Even if HHH didn't have a "say" in the booking process (which it has been documented by several sources that he does), the fact that Stephanie and him are going out is bound to leave Stephanie with a certain amount of favortism towards her "favorite wrestler."

The fact that HHH has a "losing record" speaks very loosely on paper. The reality of the situation is that when HHH loses, he does so in a fashion where he will ultimately come out on top.

Hogan as a heel in WCW had a losing record, but that didn't stop them from repeatedly shoving him down everyone's throats and repeatedly giving him the title and basing PPV main events around him.

Wrestling ain't football. They don't publish win/loss records on WWE TV, because it's all about perception.
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#19 Posted on

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID



the fact that Stephanie and him are going out is bound to leave Stephanie with a certain amount of favortism towards her "favorite wrestler."

The fact that HHH has a "losing record" speaks very loosely on paper. The reality of the situation is that when HHH loses, he does so in a fashion where he will ultimately come out on top.

Hogan as a heel in WCW had a losing record, but that didn't stop them from repeatedly shoving him down everyone's throats and repeatedly giving him the title and basing PPV main events around him.

Wrestling ain't football. They don't publish win/loss records on WWE TV, because it's all about perception.



So you don't like Triple H based on his wrestling, or promo's, or both? Or do you hate HHH because he is fucking Steph? Or do you hate the amount of TV time he gets? What is your perception?

My preception is this thread is about Triple H being the loser more times than people want to think or give him credit for. It gives proof that he is not the unstoppable monster that he is perceived to be by some people.



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#20 Posted on
**Even if HHH didn't have a "say" in the booking process (which it has been documented by several sources that he does**

This is not entirely true. It has been documented by several sources that HHH is able to present ideas and give his opinions. He is not a booker, he is not a writer; he does not decide who wins and loses. Additionally, it often goes unmentioned that other wrestlers, including Chris Jericho, also took part in the meetings before TV tapings where they were able to make suggestions.

**The reality of the situation is that when HHH loses, he does so in a fashion where he will ultimately come out on top.**

By losing the world title to Hogan? Months later he beat Hogan, as did most everyone else on the roster, but he never got the title back. So how did he ultimately come out on top there? How did he come out on top by never beating Undertaker for the title? How did he come out on top after being pinned by D-Von or Test? It seems your "reality" is fairly skewed.
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