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Planavoy
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Since: 30.11.03

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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.07
dont include guys like Ovchkin who are not drafted yet.
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Since: 3.1.02
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
This is potentially the most vague thread ever. How would you gauge or rate the Top 25? How would you even cut it down to 25?? Most TEAMS have 25 prospects...

The only players I can rate with any degree of certainty are the Flames top three prospects (in order): D Dion Phaneuf (WHL), LW Eric Nystrom (NCAA) & D Tomi Maki (Finland)



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.07
well i can give you an example who I think are the top 25 prospects in the world.

1Lehtonen
2Pitkanen
3Spezza
4Fleury
5Staal
6Ryan Miller
7Ruutu
8Vanek
9Eminger
10Komisarek
11Zherdev
12Horton
13Grigorenko
14Semin
15Tjutin
16Hamhuis
17Hemsky
18Lupul
19Suter
20Michalek
21Upshall
22Grebeshkov
23Kastsitsyn
24Steen
25Nilsson
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.10
Most of those guys you listed are already in the NHL. That doesn't really qualify them as prospects.



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Planavoy
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.07
they are still prospects though playing in nhl.
i see noone has a list meh thats ok.
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Since: 23.2.02
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#6 Posted on
    Originally posted by Planavoy
    they are still prospects though playing in nhl.
    i see noone has a list meh thats ok.


....and based on that criteria, Rick Nash didn't make your list?





Planavoy
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.77
Nash is playing his 2nd season, i know Spezza is too but Spezza played 36 games last year.


Anyways thats my list.
Happy New Years To All.
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Freeway
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
From NHL.com: "To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in 25 or more NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons. Any player at least 26 years of age (by September 15th of that season) is not considered a rookie."

YOUR LIST AGAIN, BUT WITH NHL GAMES IN BRACKETS
Players with "*" after their entry still are rookies/prospects.
1. [G] Kari Lehtonen [0; Chicago Wolves (AHL)]*
2. [D] Joni Pitkanen [33+; Philadelphia Flyers]*
3. [C] Jason Spezza [69+; Ottawa Senators]
4. [G] Marc-Andre Fleury [17+; Pittsburgh Penguins]*
5. [C] Eric Staal [36+; Carolina Hurricanes]*
6. [G] Ryan Miller [18+; Buffalo Sabres]*
7a. [C] Tuomo Ruutu [38+; Chicago Blackhawks]*
7b. [RW] Mikko Ruutu [0; Jokerit Helsinki (Finland)]*
7c. [LW] Jarkko Ruutu [146+; Vancouver Canucks]
8. [F] Thomas Vanek [0; University of Minnesota]*
9. [D] Steve Eminger [52+; Washington Capitals]*
10. [D] Mike Komisarek [33+; Montreal Canadiens]*
11. [RW] Nikolai Zherdev [13+; Columbus Blue Jackets]*
12. [C[ Nathan Horton [38+; Florida Panthers]*
13. [F] Igor Grigorenko [0; Tolyatti Lada (Russia)]*
14. [LW] Alexander Semin [18+; Washington Capitals]*
15. [D] Fedor Tjutin [0; Hartford Wolf Pack (AHL)]*
16. [D] Dan Hamhuis [36+; Nashville Predators]*
17. [LW] Ales Hemsky [95+; Edmonton Oilers]
18. [C] Joffrey Lupul [34+; Anaheim Mighty Ducks]*
19. [D] Ryan Suter [0; Juniors]*
20. [RW] Milan Michalek [2+; San Jose Sharks]*
21. [RW] Scott Upshall [15+; Nashville Predators]*
22. [D] Denis Grebeshkov [0; Manchester Monarchs (AHL)]*
23. Who? HockeyDB.com can't find him...
24. [F] Alexander Steen [0; Vastra Frolunda (SEL)]*
25. [F] Robert Nilsson [0; Leksands (SEL)]*

Not a bad list, but excuding a few guys is insane.

(edited by Freeway420 on 31.12.03 1258)


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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.94
i dont think that i left out someone big I picked the top 25 prospects in the world.
"23. Who? HockeyDB.com can't find him..."
Andrei Kostitsyn was drafted 10th by the Canadians in 2003
he was drafted 10th just because he has some health problems that he needs to overcome thus other teams were afraid to take a chance at him, he is a very promosing player.
If u would like to know more about him http://www.hockeysfuture.com/ prospect.php?pid=3562
tnx and Have A Happy New Years.
Big Bad
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Though he's only 16, is it too early to add Sidney Crosby to this list?



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.94
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Though he's only 16, is it too early to add Sidney Crosby to this list?

yes
because i realy dont know what number he should be rated at u know?
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
From Jerry Maguire:
"Until they turn pro, it's like popcorn in the pan: some pop, some don't."

There's no way to fairly give a player a number based upon their percieved potential. The NHL's Central Scouting department has tried for years, and rarely do they give perfect rankings.



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#13 Posted on
Ovechkin before Crosby.....this is his draft year, after all.





Dave Gagnon
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.80
Sydney Crosby will be something. The only problem is his size. I have seen him play several times and he is the real deal.



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