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Eddie Famous
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#21 Posted on

I added in the walks...1013 for Grace....588 for Mattingly...that adds on another 425 plate appearances for a total of 1054 difference.





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#22 Posted on
Alright, you have me there.

How about this comparison - Andres Galarraga? He's closer to the number of plate appearances if you add AB and Walks. You've got to cut me some slack here, as its almost impossible to match players stat for stat.

Andres was a more productive offensive player... He has around 300 more total bases than Grace with around 600 fewer plate appearances - but Andres leads in most categories.

I don't know how much difference a .992 fielding % for Andres and a .995 FP for Grace makes.

Is Andres HOF bound?



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#23 Posted on
OH GOD NO!

If you have to ask if a player belongs then he doesn't
Eddie Famous
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#24 Posted on

Originally posted by Guru Zim
Alright, you have me there.

How about this comparison - Andres Galarraga? He's closer to the number of plate appearances if you add AB and Walks. You've got to cut me some slack here, as its almost impossible to match players stat for stat.

Andres was a more productive offensive player... He has around 300 more total bases than Grace with around 600 fewer plate appearances - but Andres leads in most categories.

I don't know how much difference a .992 fielding % for Andres and a .995 FP for Grace makes.

Is Andres HOF bound?



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I think that Andre will be hurt by his numbers in Colorado. That said, no, I don't put him in YET. I say YET because I thought the sumbitch was finished when he came to the Cardinals! If he gets to 400 HR and 1500-1600 RBI it will be a tough sell not to put him in. But now? No.



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Since: 23.1.02
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#25 Posted on
The five players with most similar batting statistics to Mark Grace:

Keith Hernandez, Hal McRae, Wally Joyner, Don Mattingly and
Mickey Vernon, though only Hernandez is truly similar.

To Andres Galarraga:

Orlando Cepeda, Fred McGriff, Lee May, Jim Rice and Gil Hodges, again only Cepeda is truly similar.

This is without adjusting for the fact that both of these guys had a lot of help from their parks in their finest seasons. These comparisons are from baseball-reference.com, by the way.

Since Hernandez is clearly the superior fielder and had a much greater impact on pennant races, I think he clearly would have to go in before Grace. I hadn't thought the comp list for Galarraga would be as strong as it is, but still I have to think he's a "no".




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#26 Posted on
Another current player who better watch himself is Ken Griffey Jr.. This guy was once a shoe in with the Mariners, but now he can't hit for average and even his feilding is slipping a bit. Is it because he doesn't have Edgar Martinez protecting him in the lineup, I don't know but a HOF player should be able to handle the switch of teams better than he has. Hell he even wanted the switch, but if Griffey continues on the pace he has been on since coming to the NL he may not be HOF bound.
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