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Why, she's in Berlin blaming 9/11 on the US.

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Thanks for the link Palp. They ask some really pointed questions about what happened on 9/11, and I'm not seeing similar discussion on the nightly news.

A sober look into the disturbing oddities and background of the Sept. 11 attacks raises countless legitimate questions that demand answers. Questions about accountability and the possible degree of foreknowledge among responsible officials - about the background to the intelligence and law enforcement failures that preceded the attacks - and about the failure of response by U.S. defenses on the day of Sept. 11.

In a democracy, any disaster on this scale calls out for a fully-funded, independent investigation, with subpoena power and testimony under oath. Yet for two years the White House has blocked all independent efforts to investigate.

The best question is:


In the United States, when a passenger plane veers from its designated course for more than a few minutes and/or fails to respond to messages from ground control, standard operating procedures specify an automatic response: The errant plane is to be intercepted by a military escort ...

After being alerted, NORAD is expected to scramble fighter jets to intercept the "unknown" within a few minutes. Such intercept orders were reportedly issued on 129 occasions in the year 2000, and on 67 occasions in the year 2001 prior to Sept. 11 ...

On Sept. 13, 2001, General Richard Myers, who had been the acting head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on Sept. 11, claimed in testimony before Congress that no interception attempts were made in response to the Sept. 11 attacks until after the Pentagon was hit, at 9:40 a.m. Note that air traffic controllers and the Federal Aviation Agency knew by 8:20 a.m. at the latest that Flight AA 11 had been hijacked. This was 1 hour and 20 minutes before the Pentagon was hit ...

Myers's original story was thus that, although the U.S. military command was aware that hijacked planes were being used in suicide attacks, and although it became known at around 8:55 a.m. that one of these hijacked planes (AA 77) was headed for Washington, still it took more than 45 minutes before a military plane was finally dispatched to cover Washington airspace ...

This unlikely-sounding story was changed several days later. A timeline released by NORAD on Sept. 17 claimed that jet fighters had been dispatched to intercept the hijacked flights, two each from the NORAD bases at Otis AFB (Cape Cod) and Langley AFB (southern Virginia) ... even taking the NORAD timeline at face value, the military jets that took off from Otis and Langley would have had to be travelling at extremely low speeds to fail entirely in their mission of at least intercepting one of the first three errant passenger planes ...

Given the many air force and air national guard bases along the East Coast, weren't there any jets already on routine training flights and therefore available for immediate use in interception?

Making the official story even unlikelier is that on the morning of Sept. 11, NORAD was coincidentally conducting its semi-annual readiness exercise, known as Vigilant Guardian.

The attacks of September 11 represented a huge intelligence failure. This has been discussed very often. But it also represented a huge failure for the military defence of America, and I haven't seen any discussion of this in the mainstream media. Why aren't Americans questioning their massive military spending if its military can't scramble three lousy jets with an hour's notice over the nation's capital?

The website you linked to Palp doesn't seem to be blaming 9/11 on the U.S. ... it seems to be demanding accountablility and a full disclosure of what happened that morning. There is a big difference.

Edit: I dug around and found Dateline NBC did a show about this on Sept. 23, 2001.

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    Originally posted by Gavintzu
    Why aren't Americans questioning their massive military spending if its military can't scramble three lousy jets with an hour's notice over the nation's capital?

The entire scrambling of jets thing was weird to me anyway if only for the fact that the planes trying to defend Washington were coming from basically Norfolk rather than any of the multiple air bases around DC.

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