So I was reading the What's the TV show you most miss being on? thread when I saw someone listed Nick Arcade. This show actually still comes on Nick GaS (Games and Sports). I used to LOVE this show when I was a kid. Then I saw it again now as an adult and boy, it is AWFUL.
So what old favorites of yours have not withstood the test of time? In addition to Nick Arcade, the number one show for me in this category is He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. This was my absolute favorite show in the whole world when I was a kid. Well, my roommate in college purchased the whole series off eBay (bootlegs, sadly) so I got to see a lot of episodes. Let me just say: UGH. The show is full of stock animation and boring action. Very disappointing.
Holy Lord that's what I first thought when I saw this thread title, because I've been watching GaS the last few days...and man oh man...Legends of the Hidden Temple was a ridiculously overcomplicated mess of a horrible show. Double Dare 2000....WORST PHYSICAL CHALLENGES EVER. Did anybody TRY these before doing them? Some are just flat out embarassingly impossible.
And yes...even GUTS. Nobody knew what the fuck to do in the Aggro Crag. WHAT THE FUCK IS AN AGGRO CRAG ANYWAY?? There was always one kid on that show who dominated. Always one athlete, and two embarassing schmucks. I gotta say though, I watch that show because it's GREAT to see these kids fall on their faces almost every "event".
By the way, worst of the worst: Finders Keepers. My Lord. Oh Sweet Heavenly Jesus.
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Some of the over-complicated complaints about Legends of the Hidden Temple are mitigated by the fact that some of their contestants were fucking morons. Not because they were kids, but let's just say whenever Kirk Fogg says "oh, that's tough" deep down, he's probably thinking "PUSH THE FUCKING BUTTON, YOU IDIOT!" Then again, while watching the show (I've seen nearly the entire run... well, what else is there to do when you're unemployed?) I'd also be the one thinking that if a team's got two pendants, the first kid should just hunt down the guards as soon as possible, take out two of 'em quick, and leave as much time for the second.
I will second the vitriol for the Aggro Crag. I'd be amazed if the contestants could even see what they're doing. And I'm not sure any thought went into Double Dare 2000 at all.
Finders Keepers wasn't so bad, but it too would suffer from the dread Fuckin' Idiotic Contestant Syndrome. (Says the person who, watching on TV, gets to see where they're hiding the item they want.)
I can still watch Legends of the Hidden Temple, mostly because the announcement of all the complicated stuff by a talking rock god combined with the looks on the faces of the kids is just entertaining. And, as I did when the show was first on, I keep thinking "No! You're doing it WRONG!" every time a kid screws up. I should've been on that show, I coulda been a contendah...
As for what doesn't hold up now, I second the Full House motion. Oh my GOD that show is so bad now. Cheese, piled on top of cheese, stirred up with more cheese, with Dave Coulier as a topping. And one of the daughters really should've just punched Kimmie Gibbler. Honestly.
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Small Wonder. I used to love that show -- even wrote a pilot for a show that was basically the same thing. Then I saw it years later, and oh, man! What an abysmal piece of television refuse, featuring some of the worst child acting I've ever seen, and that's saying something. I thought the girl who played Vicki was preternaturally talented -- turned out she was just embarrassing.
I watched a first season episode of Diff'rent Strokes OnDemand just for the hell of it. It was the episode when Arnold let his goldfish Abraham loose in Mr. Drummond's bathtub. Wow, it was terrible. I couldn't believe how slow the episode and how intrustive the laugh track were. The apartment set looked totally fake, as if the walls would fall down if someone slammed the door.
Another one is The Flash. I loved that show when I was 14, but I watched a few episodes on the DVD set with a friend of mine and it's pretty lousy. Embarrassing acting and poor writing, especially in light of the high levels of action, comedy and drama in the superhero/sci-fi genre seen on television in the 15 years since The Flash went off the air. Plus, this was years before The X-Files and other shows followed in shooting their shows in Vancouver in real locations. "Central City" looked exactly like what it was: a fake studio backlot. (Which is what the Lois and Clark Metropolis looks like too.)
Suffice it to say, neither show held up to nostalgia.
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Yeah, same for me here.
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"Battle of the Planets" remains the greatest cartoon series I ever beheld but only because of what remained after they strip-mined the original "Gatchman" series. I loved the uniformed hero team, the Phoenix (made up of smaller vehicles), and the robot monster designs. And the series still boasts the best music for a cartoon TV show. Yes, better than "Johnny Quest."
But, holy Jesus, they dumbed it down for American kids with every late 1970s marketing cliche in the book. In other words, they ripped off "Star Wars." They took a cool, violent superspy cartoon and turned it into a simplified galactic war (with basic science information that surpasses Questionable and plummets into Utterly Wrong) complete with an R2D2 clone providing narration and covering plotholes the American writers couldn't explain away with the original animation.
Rhino offers BOTP episodes packaged with the original, corresponding Gatchman shows. If you wish your childhood love of this show to be savaged beyond repair, I dare you to compare those episodes. I was stunned. STUNNED.
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Originally posted by AngryJohnnyAnd Legends of the Hidden Temple holds up dammit. It holds up.
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In all seriousness, I still watch it occasionally and it still has the same draw it did when I was a kid...shouting "YOU ARE AN IDIOT" at the TV screen.
On the other hand, I think any game show on Nickelodeon hosted by Mike O'Malley falls into the "it seemed great at the time" category. As far as primetime shows go, I'd have to say "Miami Vice." I hadn't seen it in years, and when they started showing it on Sleuth I couldn't help but think to myself "man, this is cheesy." I can't even get through a full episode. That can probably be said for the majority of cop/detective shows from the 80s, though.
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